Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-26 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Alejandro Aguilar Sierra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On 26 Sep 2000, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | | > | That is ok and it's not the point of the discussion. Will I be able to | > | use M-m for math commands if I like so, even if that's not the default | > | configuration? | > | > Yes, but the

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Alejandro" == Alejandro Aguilar Sierra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alejandro> What about Jurgen's suggestion on using something else for Alejandro> the menu (M&ath and M-a) ? I just did that in cvs. JMarc

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-26 Thread Alejandro Aguilar Sierra
On 26 Sep 2000, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > | That is ok and it's not the point of the discussion. Will I be able to > | use M-m for math commands if I like so, even if that's not the default > | configuration? > > Yes, but then you can't have M-m to open the Math menu in the menubar. What abo

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-26 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Alejandro Aguilar Sierra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On 23 Sep 2000, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | | > I hope you realize that one of the reasons for our "great" flexibility | > was a bug in XForms. | > | > Currently menu shortcuts are caught by _XForms_ not by LyX. This is | > because of the

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-25 Thread dochawk
Juergen jestured, > On 23-Sep-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'd lean towards either the M-a for math or eliminating the math menu > > altogether. Probably the latter, as it strikes me that the whole > > floating set of tools will be necessary when folks start working with > > math. It

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Garst" == Garst R Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Garst> I'll expand my earlier suggestion. Let menu shortcuts be Garst> M-Uppercase letter bindings M-lowercase letter The menus all Garst> start with an uppercase letter anyway. I do not like this one much. I'll just put the math menu o

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-25 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 23-Sep-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'd lean towards either the M-a for math or eliminating the math menu > altogether. Probably the latter, as it strikes me that the whole > floating set of tools will be necessary when folks start working with > math. It will also cause less proble

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-24 Thread Marko Vendelin
On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Garst R. Reese wrote: > Did you see my proposal to use M-capital-letters for menu shortcuts, > which would leave M-m available for math key bindings. > Would you find that acceptable? > > Marko observed: > And LyX will be the only program I know to do that :). Actually, I

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-23 Thread dochawk
garst gabbed, > > I'd label restoration of keybindings as a "must" before release. > Did you see my proposal to use M-capital-letters for menu shortcuts, > which would leave M-m available for math key bindings. > Would you find that acceptable? I *think* so, but in all honesty, I'd probably hav

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-23 Thread Alejandro Aguilar Sierra
On 23 Sep 2000, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > I hope you realize that one of the reasons for our "great" flexibility > was a bug in XForms. > > Currently menu shortcuts are caught by _XForms_ not by LyX. This is > because of the new menucode that is heaps better than the old one. That is ok and

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-23 Thread Garst R. Reese
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > lars lamented, > > > Alejandro Aguilar Sierra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > | Yes, LyX had the hability to give users the choice to use the interface > > | they liked the more. Is really necessary to take away that? > > > We won't take away _anything_ from the

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-23 Thread dochawk
lars lamented, > Alejandro Aguilar Sierra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | Yes, LyX had the hability to give users the choice to use the interface > | they liked the more. Is really necessary to take away that? > We won't take away _anything_ from the user. The question is how LyX > should be c

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-23 Thread Garst R. Reese
Marko Vendelin wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Garst R. Reese wrote: > > > I'll expand my earlier suggestion. > > Let menu shortcuts be M-Uppercase letter > > bindings M-lowercase letter > > The menus all start with an uppercase letter anyway. > > When in math mode in particular I prefer not to

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-23 Thread Marko Vendelin
On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Garst R. Reese wrote: > I'll expand my earlier suggestion. > Let menu shortcuts be M-Uppercase letter > bindings M-lowercase letter > The menus all start with an uppercase letter anyway. > When in math mode in particular I prefer not to have to resort to the > menu and want

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-22 Thread Garst R. Reese
"Lars Gullik Bjønnes" wrote: > > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | What has changed is that now, M-m invokes the math menu (like menu > | work is most programs, BTW). This means that the "virtual menu > | entries" we had in the math menu (and some others) are not possible >

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-22 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | What has changed is that now, M-m invokes the math menu (like menu | work is most programs, BTW). This means that the "virtual menu | entries" we had in the math menu (and some others) are not possible | anymore. I think it is a good thing in ge

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-22 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Alejandro Aguilar Sierra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Garst R. Reese wrote: | | > > Is the produced latex right? Why don't you use M-m C ? | > It doesn't work anymore :( I assume you meant M-m ( | | Yes, of course. I have not followed this thread but it seems that the |

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-22 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Alejandro Aguilar Sierra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On 21 Sep 2000, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: | | > So, if we get rid of the math menu, should we keep the math bindings | > on M-m? I think if we don't, there will be a riot from users, but Lars | > disagrees... | | Yes, LyX had the hability

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Alejandro" == Alejandro Aguilar Sierra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alejandro> Yes, of course. I have not followed this thread but it Alejandro> seems that the philosofy has changed. Users won't have Alejandro> anymore the flexiblity to change the interface how ever Alejandro> they like. Un

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-22 Thread Andre Poenitz
> Unless there are very good reasons for that, this is a shame. Does anybody remember these 'very good reasons' exactly? My memory is failing... Andre' -- Andre' Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-21 Thread Alejandro Aguilar Sierra
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Garst R. Reese wrote: > > Is the produced latex right? Why don't you use M-m C ? > It doesn't work anymore :( I assume you meant M-m ( Yes, of course. I have not followed this thread but it seems that the philosofy has changed. Users won't have anymore the flexiblity to ch

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-21 Thread Garst R. Reese
Alejandro Aguilar Sierra wrote: > > On 21 Sep 2000, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > > So, if we get rid of the math menu, should we keep the math bindings > > on M-m? I think if we don't, there will be a riot from users, but Lars > > disagrees... > > Yes, LyX had the hability to give users the

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-21 Thread Alejandro Aguilar Sierra
On 21 Sep 2000, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > So, if we get rid of the math menu, should we keep the math bindings > on M-m? I think if we don't, there will be a riot from users, but Lars > disagrees... Yes, LyX had the hability to give users the choice to use the interface they liked the more.

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-21 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Amir" == Amir Karger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Amir> But where would the "open math panel" command go? At the same place as the TOC popup (so Eit for now). Amir> If we do find places for these commands, I definitely think we Amir> should get rid of the math menu. Because anyone who rea

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-15 Thread Amir Karger
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 05:27:04PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Amir" == Amir Karger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > We could have "Insert->Inline equation and "Insert->Displayed > equation". Then we'd need a toggle somewhere between the two. The > current situation (where M-m d is

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-15 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Amir" == Amir Karger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Amir> How many people use the math menu for anything except opening Amir> the Math Panel? I guess you could move that to Insert->Math. Amir> Only problem is, what about Math Mode (put it in layout?) and Amir> Display? We could have "Insert-

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-15 Thread Amir Karger
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 02:47:52PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Amir" == Amir Karger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Amir> I want > Amir> *all* of my shortcuts to be Alt. Why? Because it's *much* easier > Amir> to remember that way! Especially if you're talking about > Amir> someth

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-15 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Amir" == Amir Karger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Amir> I'll also note that noone created the layout.bind that Lars Amir> suggested, so the paragraph layout stuff isn't there any more. Amir> Nor are the character changing commands. So, who will be brave enough to try to put all these back

Re: Lost math bindings

2000-09-15 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Amir Karger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | OK, maybe it's late for me to be getting into this discussion. But I just | tried to play with the new LyX (now that I can compile it) and realized how | annoying it was not to have the math bindings any more. | | I'll also note that noone created the la

Lost math bindings

2000-09-14 Thread Amir Karger
OK, maybe it's late for me to be getting into this discussion. But I just tried to play with the new LyX (now that I can compile it) and realized how annoying it was not to have the math bindings any more. I'll also note that noone created the layout.bind that Lars suggested, so the paragraph lay