Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Am 23.05.2013 08:46, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: Your example is not very good. What you describe in the example can be done perfectly with what Jurgen proposed. Then I misunderstood it. For the reason that in many cases one or a few floats needs to have another alignment than all

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Am 23.05.2013 08:46, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: Your example is not very good. What you describe in the example can be done perfectly with what Jurgen proposed. Then I misunderstood it. For the reason that in many cases one or a few floats needs to have another alignment than all

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Op 23-5-2013 2:15, Uwe Stöhr schreef: Am 22.05.2013 07:38, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: The setting is somewhat between the the document settings and the preferences. The idea is to change only the way NEW floats are inserted. Existing floats will not be changed by this setting. If you

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

On 2013-05-23, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Op 23-5-2013 2:15, Uwe Stöhr schreef: Am 22.05.2013 07:38, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: ... For the reason that in many cases one or a few floats needs to have another alignment than all other floats, my setting does not change existing

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Op 23-5-2013 2:15, Uwe Stöhr schreef: Am 22.05.2013 07:38, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: The setting is somewhat between the the document settings and the preferences. The idea is to change only the way NEW floats are inserted. Existing floats will not be changed by this setting. If you

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

On 2013-05-23, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > Op 23-5-2013 2:15, Uwe Stöhr schreef: >> Am 22.05.2013 07:38, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: ... >> For the reason that in many cases one or a few floats needs to have >> another alignment than all other floats, my setting does not change >>

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Am 22.05.2013 07:38, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: The setting is somewhat between the the document settings and the preferences. The idea is to change only the way NEW floats are inserted. Existing floats will not be changed by this setting. If you would have read what I and Jurgen wrote

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Am 22.05.2013 07:38, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: The setting is somewhat between the the document settings and the preferences. The idea is to change only the way NEW floats are inserted. Existing floats will not be changed by this setting. If you would have read what I and Jurgen wrote

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Am 17.05.2013 10:24, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: Opinions, further proposals? I'm fine with it as long as a.) the default is what the classes does (i.e., always center content is an opt-in, not an opt-out) Sure. We need a layout tag to tell what the class default is. To clarify the concept

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Op 22-5-2013 1:40, Uwe Stöhr schreef: Am 17.05.2013 10:24, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: Opinions, further proposals? I'm fine with it as long as a.) the default is what the classes does (i.e., always center content is an opt-in, not an opt-out) Sure. We need a layout tag to tell what the

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Am 17.05.2013 10:24, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: Opinions, further proposals? I'm fine with it as long as a.) the default is what the classes does (i.e., "always center content" is an opt-in, not an opt-out) Sure. We need a layout tag to tell what the class default is. To clarify the

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Op 22-5-2013 1:40, Uwe Stöhr schreef: Am 17.05.2013 10:24, schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: Opinions, further proposals? I'm fine with it as long as a.) the default is what the classes does (i.e., "always center content" is an opt-in, not an opt-out) Sure. We need a layout tag to tell what

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Hmm.. A document setting that doesn't say anything about the document, but just how LyX interacts with it. Huh? What about font sizes, margins, line height and all this stuff? Huh ? If I change the font size, the margin, or

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Liviu Andronic wrote: Jürgen is much more authoritative on matters LaTeX than I am, but I would heartily advise against that. This is the slippery slope that Scientific WorkPlace had taken, one of the reasons users find objectionable to work in SWP (i.e., a plethora of SWP-defined macros in

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > > Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > >> Hmm.. A document setting that doesn't say anything about the document, > >> but just how LyX interacts with it. > > > > Huh? What about font sizes, margins, line height and all this stuff? > > Huh ? If I change the font size,

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Liviu Andronic wrote: > Jürgen is much more authoritative on matters LaTeX than I am, but I > would heartily advise against that. This is the slippery slope that > Scientific WorkPlace had taken, one of the reasons users find > objectionable to work in SWP (i.e., a plethora of SWP-defined macros >

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dear colleagues, we often discussed in the past about the default paragraph alignment for new floats. We had the discussion in Milano as well because this is one of the most annoying things for many users. We voted to do something. The question is now how. Here is my

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Hmm.. A document setting that doesn't say anything about the document, but just how LyX interacts with it. Huh? What about font sizes, margins, line height and all this stuff? That doesn't feel right. I think the change tracking setting is already annoying

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Op 17-5-2013 10:28, Jürgen Spitzmüller schreef: Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Hmm.. A document setting that doesn't say anything about the document, but just how LyX interacts with it. Huh? What about font sizes, margins, line height and all this stuff? Huh ? If I change the font size, the

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn v...@lyx.org wrote: I'm afraid this will be too late for 2.1. This will probably light up some discussion, and it will take time to figure out what we're going to do exactly. Agreed. I don't think there is anything near a consensus on

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote: a.) the default is what the classes does (i.e., always center content is an opt-in, not an opt-out) Yes. b.) this stuff is not physically hardcoded, but globally settable (for instance, as I have proposed, via

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > we often discussed in the past about the default paragraph alignment for new > floats. We had the discussion in Milano as well because this is one of the > most annoying things for many users. We voted to do something. The question > is now how. Here is my

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > Hmm.. A document setting that doesn't say anything about the document, > but just how LyX interacts with it. Huh? What about font sizes, margins, line height and all this stuff? > That doesn't feel right. I think the > change tracking setting is already annoying

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Op 17-5-2013 10:28, Jürgen Spitzmüller schreef: Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: Hmm.. A document setting that doesn't say anything about the document, but just how LyX interacts with it. Huh? What about font sizes, margins, line height and all this stuff? Huh ? If I change the font size, the

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > I'm afraid this will be too late for 2.1. This will probably light up some > discussion, and it will take time to figure out what we're going to do > exactly. > Agreed. I don't think there is anything near a consensus

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > a.) the default is what the classes does (i.e., "always center content" is an > opt-in, not an opt-out) > Yes. > b.) this stuff is not physically hardcoded, but globally settable (for > instance, as I have proposed,

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Op 16-5-2013 22:15, Uwe Stöhr schreef: Dear colleagues, we often discussed in the past about the default paragraph alignment for new floats. We had the discussion in Milano as well because this is one of the most annoying things for many users. We voted to do something. That's the real

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Am 16.05.2013 23:00, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: we often discussed in the past about the default paragraph alignment for new floats. We had the discussion in Milano as well because this is one of the most annoying things for many users. We voted to do something. That's the real

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Op 16-5-2013 22:15, Uwe Stöhr schreef: Dear colleagues, we often discussed in the past about the default paragraph alignment for new floats. We had the discussion in Milano as well because this is one of the most annoying things for many users. We voted to do something. That's the real

Re: RFC - offer users to set preferred float paragraph style

Am 16.05.2013 23:00, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: we often discussed in the past about the default paragraph alignment for new floats. We had the discussion in Milano as well because this is one of the most annoying things for many users. We voted to do something. That's the real