On 2020-08-19 22:46, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
On 8/19/20 3:39 AM, Daniel wrote:
It seems a bit tricky to get reaction on the list by those who are
interested to respond without some others who are not really
interested in discussion feeling called upon as well. I guess the
problem is that if
On 8/19/20 3:39 AM, Daniel wrote:
> It seems a bit tricky to get reaction on the list by those who are
> interested to respond without some others who are not really
> interested in discussion feeling called upon as well. I guess the
> problem is that if they do not pitch in then it might be said o
On 2020-08-18 10:14, Daniel wrote:
On 2020-08-17 11:04, Daniel wrote:
On 2020-08-17 10:59, Daniel wrote:
ps. The patch is changing often. Currently, the layout box look as the
attached screen capture (on macOS).
I have a serious question for everyone who voted (for and against the
inclusion)
Am Dienstag, den 18.08.2020, 10:14 +0200 schrieb Daniel:
> I have a serious question for everyone who voted (for and against the
> inclusion):
>
> Have you tried the patch while working in LyX for some time before
> casting the vote?
Please let people give their opinion and do not constantly try
On 2020-08-17 11:04, Daniel wrote:
On 2020-08-17 10:59, Daniel wrote:
ps. The patch is changing often. Currently, the layout box look as the
attached screen capture (on macOS).
I have a serious question for everyone who voted (for and against the
inclusion):
Have you tried the patch while w
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 12:45:44PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> I think everybody has now heard enough arguments from anybody else, so
> I suggest we stop arguing and go voting to see how the preferences are.
>
> Three options have been proposed:
>
> A. Include the change without way to opt
On 2020-08-17 12:45, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Am Montag, den 17.08.2020, 09:13 +0200 schrieb Daniel:
Personally I don't care whether old or new combo version is used,
but I haven't
seen much support for the change from the others.
Thanks a lot for your feedback. Here are my initial, maybe not
Am 17.08.2020 um 12:45 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller :
>
> Am Montag, den 17.08.2020, 09:13 +0200 schrieb Daniel:
>>> Personally I don't care whether old or new combo version is used,
>>> but I haven't
>>> seen much support for the change from the others.
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your feedback. Here a
On 2020-08-17 18:25, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
On 8/17/20 10:48 AM, Daniel wrote:
On 17/8/20 15:49, Pavel Sanda wrote:
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 09:13:45AM +0200, Daniel wrote:
I guess you don't like the current Preferences > Editing > Control
because
it contains two GUI switches that seem to
On 8/17/20 10:48 AM, Daniel wrote:
> On 17/8/20 15:49, Pavel Sanda wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 09:13:45AM +0200, Daniel wrote:
>>> I guess you don't like the current Preferences > Editing > Control
>>> because
>>> it contains two GUI switches that seem to apply to a single combobox
>>
>> Inde
On 17/8/20 15:49, Pavel Sanda wrote:
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 09:13:45AM +0200, Daniel wrote:
I guess you don't like the current Preferences > Editing > Control because
it contains two GUI switches that seem to apply to a single combobox
Indeed.
I have suggested the formatted combobox a littl
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 09:13:45AM +0200, Daniel wrote:
> I guess you don't like the current Preferences > Editing > Control because
> it contains two GUI switches that seem to apply to a single combobox
Indeed.
> I have suggested the formatted combobox a little while ago with reasons for
> why i
Le 17 août 2020 15:28:22 GMT+02:00, Daniel a écrit :
>On 17/8/20 14:50, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>> Le 17 août 2020 14:46:34 GMT+02:00, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> a écrit :
>>> 3/ new prefs that make debugging difficult, among others
>>
>> s/that//
>
>What does that mean?
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On 17/8/20 14:50, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Le 17 août 2020 14:46:34 GMT+02:00, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a
écrit :
3/ new prefs that make debugging difficult, among others
s/that//
What does that mean?
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Am Montag, den 17.08.2020, 15:17 +0200 schrieb Daniel:
> Maybe something like this could fix it?
The voting is running. Either name your vote or don't. I am not going
to change the procedure in any way.
Jürgen
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On 17/8/20 14:49, Daniel wrote:
On 17/8/20 14:04, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Am Montag, den 17.08.2020, 13:58 +0200 schrieb Daniel:
The choices are:
A. Include the change without way to opt-out
B. Include the change but only if it can be opted out
(i.e., do not include it if it cannot
Le 17 août 2020 14:46:34 GMT+02:00, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a
écrit :
>3/ new prefs that make debugging difficult, among others
s/that//
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On 17/8/20 14:04, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Am Montag, den 17.08.2020, 13:58 +0200 schrieb Daniel:
The choices are:
A. Include the change without way to opt-out
B. Include the change but only if it can be opted out
(i.e., do not include it if it cannot be opted out)
C. Do not include
Le 17 août 2020 12:45:44 GMT+02:00, "Jürgen Spitzmüller" a
écrit :
>I think everybody has now heard enough arguments from anybody else, so
>I suggest we stop arguing and go voting to see how the preferences are.
With a result along the lines of the latest screenshot posted by Daniel I think
tha
Am Montag, den 17.08.2020, 13:58 +0200 schrieb Daniel:
> The choices are:
>
>
>
> A. Include the change without way to opt-out
>
> B. Include the change but only if it can be opted out
>
> (i.e., do not include it if it cannot be opted out)
>
> C. Do not include the change
>
>
>
> I ta
On 14/4/20 9:23, Daniel wrote:
If I read correctly, then drop-down list items can be styled in Qt. I
think it would look awesome and, more importantly, enhance finding items
if the layout list would provide some of the WYSIWYM styles from the
work area. I'd suggest font attributes and labeling.
On 17/8/20 13:44, Pavel Sanda wrote:
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 12:53:37PM +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:
Three options have been proposed:
A. Include the change without way to opt-out
B. Include the change but only if it can be opted out
(i.e., do not include it if it cannot be opted out)
C. Do n
Am Montag, den 17.08.2020, 13:42 +0200 schrieb Daniel:
> I guess questions are still allowed.
I only count votes in this subthread and ignore everything else.
Jürgen
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 12:53:37PM +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:
> > Three options have been proposed:
> >
> > A. Include the change without way to opt-out
> > B. Include the change but only if it can be opted out
> >(i.e., do not include it if it cannot be opted out)
> > C. Do not include the ch
On 17/8/20 12:53, Kornel Benko wrote:
Am Mon, 17 Aug 2020 12:45:44 +0200
schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller :
Am Montag, den 17.08.2020, 09:13 +0200 schrieb Daniel:
Personally I don't care whether old or new combo version is used,
but I haven't
seen much support for the change from the others.
Thank
Am Mon, 17 Aug 2020 12:45:44 +0200
schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller :
> Am Montag, den 17.08.2020, 09:13 +0200 schrieb Daniel:
> > > Personally I don't care whether old or new combo version is used,
> > > but I haven't
> > > seen much support for the change from the others.
> >
> > Thanks a lot for y
Am Montag, den 17.08.2020, 09:13 +0200 schrieb Daniel:
> > Personally I don't care whether old or new combo version is used,
> > but I haven't
> > seen much support for the change from the others.
>
> Thanks a lot for your feedback. Here are my initial, maybe not well
> thought through, thoughts
On 2020-08-17 10:59, Daniel wrote:
On 2020-08-17 10:10, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Le 17 août 2020 09:28:11 GMT+02:00, Daniel a écrit :
The answer to "Do we want the feature at all? If not, how could it be
changed to be good for everyone?" seems to be:
First question: Some seem to want it, o
Am Mon, 17 Aug 2020 09:59:31 +0200
schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes :
> Le 17 août 2020 09:28:11 GMT+02:00, Daniel a écrit :
> >I think you missed to send the link. But I seem to remember to have
> >read
> >it before but found it quite controversial. Anyway, it would be nice if
> >
> >you could shar
On 2020-08-17 10:10, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Le 17 août 2020 09:28:11 GMT+02:00, Daniel a écrit :
The answer to "Do we want the feature at all? If not, how could it be
changed to be good for everyone?" seems to be:
First question: Some seem to want it, one seems to be indifferent only
if t
Le 17 août 2020 09:28:11 GMT+02:00, Daniel a écrit :
>I think you missed to send the link. But I seem to remember to have
>read
>it before but found it quite controversial. Anyway, it would be nice if
>
>you could share it again, so I can refresh my memory.
Sorry, here it is.
https://ometer.com/
Le 17 août 2020 09:28:11 GMT+02:00, Daniel a écrit :
>The answer to "Do we want the feature at all? If not, how could it be
>changed to be good for everyone?" seems to be:
>
>First question: Some seem to want it, one seems to be indifferent only
>if there is a GUI switch, others are indifferent.
On 2020-08-17 00:37, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Le 16 août 2020 21:27:44 GMT+02:00, racoon a écrit :
In general, ever thought about a further switch called "Advanced
Preferences"?
Adding an "advanced preference" section is a good sign that there is a
preference issue ;)
Here is some inter
On 2020-08-16 23:13, Pavel Sanda wrote:
On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 09:16:05PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Le 16 ao??t 2020 16:08:25 GMT+02:00, racoon a écrit :
On 2020-08-16 16:06, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
Pavel was joking.
Was he?
I was actually serious. It's absurd to introduce
Le 16 août 2020 21:27:44 GMT+02:00, racoon a écrit :
>>In general, ever thought about a further switch called "Advanced
>Preferences"?
Adding an "advanced preference" section is a good sign that there is a
preference issue ;)
Here is some interesting reading from Gnome hacker Havoc Pennington a
On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 09:16:05PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Le 16 ao??t 2020 16:08:25 GMT+02:00, racoon a écrit :
> >
> >On 2020-08-16 16:06, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> >> Pavel was joking.
>
> Was he?
I was actually serious. It's absurd to introduce new GUI switch for the sake
o
On 2020-08-16 21:16, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Le 16 août 2020 16:08:25 GMT+02:00, racoon a écrit :
On 2020-08-16 16:06, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
Pavel was joking.
Was he?
I see. I am still not sure about JMarc though. Anyway, I'll add a gui
switch as Jürgen asked for.
In genera
Le 16 août 2020 16:08:25 GMT+02:00, racoon a écrit :
>
>On 2020-08-16 16:06, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
>> Pavel was joking.
Was he?
>I see. I am still not sure about JMarc though. Anyway, I'll add a gui
>switch as Jürgen asked for.
In general, I am against a new switch, but I would have to s
On 2020-08-16 16:06, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
On 8/16/20 3:24 AM, Daniel wrote:
On 2020-08-03 15:49, Pavel Sanda wrote:
On Sun, Aug 02, 2020 at 12:04:46PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Le 2 ao??t 2020 10:18:50 GMT+02:00, "Jürgen Spitzmüller"
a écrit :
Am Sonntag, den 02.08.2020, 0
On 8/16/20 3:24 AM, Daniel wrote:
> On 2020-08-03 15:49, Pavel Sanda wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 02, 2020 at 12:04:46PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>>> Le 2 ao??t 2020 10:18:50 GMT+02:00, "Jürgen Spitzmüller"
>>> a écrit :
Am Sonntag, den 02.08.2020, 09:44 +0200 schrieb Daniel:
> Do you
On 2020-08-03 15:49, Pavel Sanda wrote:
On Sun, Aug 02, 2020 at 12:04:46PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Le 2 ao??t 2020 10:18:50 GMT+02:00, "Jürgen Spitzmüller" a
écrit :
Am Sonntag, den 02.08.2020, 09:44 +0200 schrieb Daniel:
Do you prefer a ui or non-ui switch?
A pref entry would b
On Sun, Aug 02, 2020 at 12:04:46PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Le 2 ao??t 2020 10:18:50 GMT+02:00, "Jürgen Spitzmüller" a
> écrit :
> >Am Sonntag, den 02.08.2020, 09:44 +0200 schrieb Daniel:
> >> Do you prefer a ui or non-ui switch?
> >
> >A pref entry would be fine (JMarc, I hear you sc
Le 2 août 2020 10:18:50 GMT+02:00, "Jürgen Spitzmüller" a écrit
:
>Am Sonntag, den 02.08.2020, 09:44 +0200 schrieb Daniel:
>> Do you prefer a ui or non-ui switch?
>
>A pref entry would be fine (JMarc, I hear you screaming!).
Just pretend you did not hear me :)
JMarc
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Am Sonntag, den 02.08.2020, 09:44 +0200 schrieb Daniel:
> Do you prefer a ui or non-ui switch?
A pref entry would be fine (JMarc, I hear you screaming!). We already
have prefs (in Edit > Control) to toggle sorting and grouping of
layouts, so that would be the place.
I can live with it being on by
On 2020-08-02 08:04, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Am Samstag, den 01.08.2020, 02:20 -0400 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck:
Patch fixing first two issues posted to bug. I'm happy to commit
this, but I'd like a bit more input from the other devs and users
about it.
I hope this will be implemented wit
Am Samstag, den 01.08.2020, 02:20 -0400 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck:
> Patch fixing first two issues posted to bug. I'm happy to commit
> this, but I'd like a bit more input from the other devs and users
> about it.
I hope this will be implemented with an option to switch it off.
Personally I fi
On 2020-08-01 08:20, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
On 7/26/20 1:54 PM, Daniel wrote:
On 2020-07-24 18:13, Daniel wrote:
On 2020-04-14 09:47, Daniel wrote:
On 2020-04-14 09:29, Daniel wrote:
On 2020-04-14 09:23, Daniel wrote:
If I read correctly, then drop-down list items can be styled in
Qt.
On 7/26/20 1:54 PM, Daniel wrote:
> On 2020-07-24 18:13, Daniel wrote:
>> On 2020-04-14 09:47, Daniel wrote:
>>> On 2020-04-14 09:29, Daniel wrote:
On 2020-04-14 09:23, Daniel wrote:
> If I read correctly, then drop-down list items can be styled in
> Qt. I think it would look awesome a
On 2020-07-26 19:54, Daniel wrote:
On 2020-07-24 18:13, Daniel wrote:
On 2020-04-14 09:47, Daniel wrote:
On 2020-04-14 09:29, Daniel wrote:
On 2020-04-14 09:23, Daniel wrote:
If I read correctly, then drop-down list items can be styled in Qt.
I think it would look awesome and, more importantl
On 2020-07-24 18:13, Daniel wrote:
On 2020-04-14 09:47, Daniel wrote:
On 2020-04-14 09:29, Daniel wrote:
On 2020-04-14 09:23, Daniel wrote:
If I read correctly, then drop-down list items can be styled in Qt.
I think it would look awesome and, more importantly, enhance finding
items if the lay
On 2020-04-14 09:29, Daniel wrote:
On 2020-04-14 09:23, Daniel wrote:
If I read correctly, then drop-down list items can be styled in Qt. I
think it would look awesome and, more importantly, enhance finding
items if the layout list would provide some of the WYSIWYM styles from
the work area. I
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