Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-15 Thread Michael Meskes
Hi again, we had some good ideas coming up about that revision mode but I have yet to get a feeling for the time it will take to implement it. Is anyone out here interested in programming this? How long would you expect it to be? I have to tell the customer something pretty soon and as long as I

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-15 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 04:05:30PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: we had some good ideas coming up about that revision mode Which ones exactly? Either I have missed a mail or two, or it is still unclear which level of support for revision mode your customer needs. but I have yet to get a

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-15 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andre Is the call an external program version fine with him? If so Andre I think it can be hacked together until November with a time Andre spend on the job in the range of a few days. I don't think Andre there is a need for a formal contract in

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-15 Thread Michael Meskes
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 04:24:38PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: Which ones exactly? Either I have missed a mail or two, or it is still unclear which level of support for revision mode your customer needs. Actually it's also still unclear for me. But I will just describe what we can do and then

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-15 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 05:04:41PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: Do you mean just calling wdiff? I looked into Word a little bit and it enables you to write stuff inside that revision control mode. That is deleting text already present when you change into the mode means it just gets marked as

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-15 Thread Michael Meskes
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 06:06:06PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: the new flag and deleted text the deleted flag. I am not so sure concerning format changes, though. We could always offer it without tracking format changes. Numbers for somebody working on that as a paid job? Ok, bold guess:

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-15 Thread Michael Meskes
Hi again, we had some good ideas coming up about that revision mode but I have yet to get a feeling for the time it will take to implement it. Is anyone out here interested in programming this? How long would you expect it to be? I have to tell the customer something pretty soon and as long as I

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-15 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 04:05:30PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > we had some good ideas coming up about that revision mode Which ones exactly? Either I have missed a mail or two, or it is still unclear which level of support for revision mode your customer needs. > but I have yet to get a

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-15 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> Is the "call an external program" version fine with him? If so Andre> I think it can be hacked together until November with a time Andre> spend on the job in the range of a few days. I don't think Andre> there is a need for a

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-15 Thread Michael Meskes
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 04:24:38PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > Which ones exactly? Either I have missed a mail or two, or it is still > unclear which level of support for revision mode your customer needs. Actually it's also still unclear for me. But I will just describe what we can do and

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-15 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 05:04:41PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > Do you mean "just" calling wdiff? I looked into Word a little bit and it > enables you to write stuff inside that revision control mode. That is > deleting text already present when you change into the mode means it > just gets

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-15 Thread Michael Meskes
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 06:06:06PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > the "new" flag and "deleted text" the deleted flag. I am not so sure > concerning format changes, though. We could always offer it without tracking format changes. > Numbers for somebody working on that as a paid job? Ok, bold

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-14 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andre You still have not really answered the question how it should Andre look like in the end, and as there are orders of magnitudes Andre between the easy way and all bells and whistles you cannot Andre expect real answers to your question. I

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-14 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> You still have not really answered the question how it should Andre> look like in the end, and as there are orders of magnitudes Andre> between "the easy way" and "all bells and whistles" you cannot Andre> expect real answers to

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-13 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 05:22:56PM +0100, John Levon wrote: I want to see what I used to use at work. There is a LyX-internal changelog mode, that places changebars alongside each paragraph that changes. ... Here's the news from our customer: He's not sure he has the money as he has to take

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-13 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 07:19:01AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: So who would be able to/is interested in doing this? I think the general interest is there, even if it is just because having features is nice. What do you charge per day? [Intentionally left unanswered. Nothing unreasonable I

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-13 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 05:22:56PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > I want to see what I used to use at work. There is a LyX-internal > "changelog" mode, that places changebars alongside each paragraph that > changes. > ... Here's the news from our customer: He's not sure he has the money as he has to

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-13 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 07:19:01AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > So who would be able to/is interested in doing this? I think the general interest is there, even if it is just because "having features is nice". > What do you charge per day? [Intentionally left unanswered. Nothing unreasonable

Showing changes between files

2002-08-12 Thread Michael Meskes
Hi, I'm not sure if anyone here still remembers me, but I'm still using LyX. :-) Anyway, I found a customer who's using LyX quite a lot and who's looking for a revision mode like the one he knows in MS Word. That is he wants to see which changes were made to the document. I take it some of you

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Michael == Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Hi, I'm not sure if anyone here still remembers me, but I'm Michael still using LyX. :-) Michael Anyway, I found a customer who's using LyX quite a lot and Michael who's looking for a revision mode like the one he knows in MS Michael

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-12 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 03:54:44PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: Anyway, I found a customer who's using LyX quite a lot and who's looking for a revision mode like the one he knows in MS Word. That is he wants to see which changes were made to the document. I take it some of you know what I

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-12 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 04:38:17PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: I did experiments using the wdiff utility some time ago: http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg16018.html Is that what you mean? Yes, this surely looks like what our customer was talking about. I have to

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-12 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 04:46:25PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: Could you be a bit more specific as to what kind of UI you want? Like Is running an external program like xxdiff sufficient or build-in support by LyX (if so, what exactly should it look like) etc. As Jean-Luc already pointed out

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-12 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 04:46:25PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: Could you be a bit more specific as to what kind of UI you want? Like Is running an external program like xxdiff sufficient or build-in support by LyX (if so, what exactly should it look like) etc. I want to see what I used to

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-12 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 05:22:56PM +0100, John Levon wrote: On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 04:46:25PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: Could you be a bit more specific as to what kind of UI you want? Like Is running an external program like xxdiff sufficient or build-in support by LyX (if so, what

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-12 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 09:48:28PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: Probably not. Consider also the 'comment' LaTeX package, allowing you to comment out and selectively process parts of your document. Would be a nice addition. But in this case we want to process the whole thing anyway, no ? It

Showing changes between files

2002-08-12 Thread Michael Meskes
Hi, I'm not sure if anyone here still remembers me, but I'm still using LyX. :-) Anyway, I found a customer who's using LyX quite a lot and who's looking for a revision mode like the one he knows in MS Word. That is he wants to see which changes were made to the document. I take it some of you

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Michael" == Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Hi, I'm not sure if anyone here still remembers me, but I'm Michael> still using LyX. :-) Michael> Anyway, I found a customer who's using LyX quite a lot and Michael> who's looking for a revision mode like the one he knows

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-12 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 03:54:44PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > Anyway, I found a customer who's using LyX quite a lot and who's looking > for a revision mode like the one he knows in MS Word. That is he wants > to see which changes were made to the document. I take it some of you > know what I

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-12 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 04:38:17PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > I did experiments using the wdiff utility some time ago: > http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg16018.html > > Is that what you mean? Yes, this surely looks like what our customer was talking about. I have

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-12 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 04:46:25PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > Could you be a bit more specific as to what kind of UI you want? Like "Is > running an external program like xxdiff sufficient" or "build-in support by > LyX" (if so, what exactly should it look like) etc. As Jean-Luc already

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-12 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 04:46:25PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > Could you be a bit more specific as to what kind of UI you want? Like "Is > running an external program like xxdiff sufficient" or "build-in support by > LyX" (if so, what exactly should it look like) etc. I want to see what I

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-12 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 05:22:56PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 04:46:25PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > > Could you be a bit more specific as to what kind of UI you want? Like "Is > > running an external program like xxdiff sufficient" or "build-in support by > > LyX"

Re: Showing changes between files

2002-08-12 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 09:48:28PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > Probably not. Consider also the 'comment' LaTeX package, allowing you to > comment out and selectively process parts of your document. Would be a > nice addition. But in this case we want to process the whole thing anyway, no ?