Re: Some technical details - bug fixed

2010-03-11 Thread Joost Verburg
On 3/11/2010 8:34 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: I already use LyXLauncher. I only invented the batch file that calls LyXLauncher, to avoid the LANG variable issue. When LANG is not set on a PC, your solution works fine. When it is set, I don't have another idea than to remove it when installing LyX. But t

Re: Some technical details - bug fixed

2010-03-11 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> I think it may be better to put this in an application like the > LyXLauncher that I made for my installer. AFAIK with a batch file you > get an ugly pop-up window. I already use LyXLauncher. I only invented the batch file that calls LyXLauncher, to avoid the LANG variable issue. When LANG is

Re: Some technical details - bug fixed

2010-03-10 Thread Joost Verburg
On 3/10/2010 9:55 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: I therefore created the workaround using a batch file (lyx.bat) where I reset the LANG variable before loading LyX. I think it may be better to put this in an application like the LyXLauncher that I made for my installer. AFAIK with a batch file you get

Re: Some technical details - bug fixed

2010-03-10 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> I never tried to reproduce the bug myself. I wish you would have done this during our discussions because this would have helped me to find out that this is definitely a bug on my side. I now found it: A chemistry program on my PC set the LANG Windows environment variable when it was instal

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-10 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 10/03/2010 22:55, Joost Verburg wrote: On 3/10/2010 3:30 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: What is your Qt-version? 4.6.0 MSVC binaries from Nokia. I hadn't noticed yet that Qt is now providing MSVC binaries as well. That's very convenient. Are there any known issues with Qt 4.6 and the curre

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-10 Thread Joost Verburg
On 3/10/2010 3:30 AM, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: What is your Qt-version? 4.6.0 MSVC binaries from Nokia. I hadn't noticed yet that Qt is now providing MSVC binaries as well. That's very convenient. Are there any known issues with Qt 4.6 and the current 1.6 branch? Joost

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-10 Thread Joost Verburg
On 3/10/2010 4:31 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Which version of intl.dll? intl.dll 0.15.0 dating back from april 2008 iconv.dll 1.11.0 dating back from april 2008 I use the same versions, but dating from December 2007. The Dec 2007 version is indeed the latest one, so you got the right intl.dll.

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-10 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 10.03.2010 22:23, schrieb Abdelrazak Younes: I use an older version of Joost's "intl.dll". Which version of intl.dll? intl.dll 0.15.0 dating back from april 2008 iconv.dll 1.11.0 dating back from april 2008 I use the same versions, but dating from December 2007. regards Uwe

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-10 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 09/03/2010 14:51, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: Have you done something special in your installer because it doesn't work for me when I just compile LyX and use it (without the usage of any NSIS script)? As Vincent has the same problem you must have done some magic (like some special NSI

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-10 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 09/03/2010 19:13, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Abdelrazak Younes schrieb: Correction: I never was able to reproduce this bug under Windows and I use an older version of Joost's "intl.dll". Which version of intl.dll? intl.dll 0.15.0 dating back from april 2008 iconv.dll 1.11.0 dating back from april

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-10 Thread Joost Verburg
On 3/9/2010 1:13 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Besides this, Joost, I think that you are also using SCons to compile LyX. Or do you now use CMake? Correct. I'm using SCons. Joost

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-10 Thread Joost Verburg
On 3/8/2010 7:41 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: I'm a bit puzzled because we discusses the gettext problem several times and everybody on Windows could reproduce this, also you if I remember correctly. I never tried to reproduce the bug myself. Joost

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-10 Thread Joost Verburg
On 3/9/2010 1:16 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: But you still have no success. But why is it working ofr Abdel and Joost but not for use. I have no idea right now, because Abdel uses CMake, Joost uses Scons. So the build system cannot be the reason. The installer can also not be the reason because this is

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-10 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 03/09/2010 07:13 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Abdelrazak Younes schrieb: Correction: I never was able to reproduce this bug under Windows and I use an older version of Joost's "intl.dll". Which version of intl.dll? Don't remember, I guess 0.15 What is your Qt-version? 4.6.0 MSVC binaries fro

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-09 Thread Kornel Benko
Am utorok 09 Marec 2010 schrieb Uwe Stöhr: > Abdelrazak Younes schrieb: > > > Correction: I never was able to reproduce this bug under Windows and I > > use an older version of Joost's "intl.dll". > > Which version of intl.dll? > What is your Qt-version? > > >> Have you done something special i

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Abdelrazak Younes schrieb: Correction: I never was able to reproduce this bug under Windows and I use an older version of Joost's "intl.dll". Which version of intl.dll? What is your Qt-version? Have you done something special in your installer because it doesn't work for me when I just compi

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-09 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW schrieb: Have you done something special in your installer because it doesn't work for me when I just compile LyX and use it (without the usage of any NSIS script)? As Vincent has the same problem you must have done some magic (like some special NSIS script that us

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-09 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Pavel Sanda wrote: > > aha, so actually you use gettext and main part of the problem has nothing > > to do with poedit at all. > > Maybe the difference is in how SCons and automake do the remerge? thats what i'm studying just now, but it seems similar. pavel

RE: Some technical details

2010-03-09 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
>> >> Have you done something special in your installer because it doesn't >> work for me when I just compile LyX and use it (without the usage of >> any NSIS script)? As Vincent has the same problem you must have done >> some magic (like some special NSIS script that uses special Windows >> AP

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-09 Thread Pavel Sanda
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > > I don't use gettext, I use the latest version of poedit: > http://www.poedit.net/ ... > When I remerge I use SCons that calls the script "lyx_pot.py" (is in our > SVN). Then > - msguniq.exe > - msgmerge.exe > - xgettext.exe > are called to generate/merge the po-files. > All

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-09 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Pavel Sanda wrote: > aha, so actually you use gettext and main part of the problem has nothing > to do with poedit at all. Maybe the difference is in how SCons and automake do the remerge? Jürgen

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-09 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Tuesday 09 March 2010 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes: > On 03/09/2010 01:41 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > > > You're right, it works fine for me too! I have no idea why it's not > > working on Uwe's system, > > > maybe it's because of the different installer. > > > > I use the same libraries as you (the on

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-09 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 03/09/2010 01:41 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > You're right, it works fine for me too! I have no idea why it's not working on Uwe's system, > maybe it's because of the different installer. I use the same libraries as you (the ones from our FTP-server). I'm a bit puzzled because we discusses the get

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-08 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> now I'm confused how Poedit and gettext usage are joined (sorry I don't use > Poedit). can you describe the exact steps of your po-updates/remerges? > where poedit comes in play and where gettext? When I remerge I use SCons that calls the script "lyx_pot.py" (is in our SVN). Then - msguniq.ex

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-08 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> You're right, it works fine for me too! I have no idea why it's not working on Uwe's system, > maybe it's because of the different installer. I use the same libraries as you (the ones from our FTP-server). I'm a bit puzzled because we discusses the gettext problem several times and everybody o

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-08 Thread Joost Verburg
On 3/8/2010 11:57 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: You're right, it works fine for me too! I have no idea why it's not working on Uwe's system, maybe it's because of the different installer. However, I can confirm it doesn't work if I compile LyX myself. Do you do some magic when com

RE: Some technical details

2010-03-08 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
>>> AFAIK it hasn't been confirmed that the language setting is also >>> broken with gettext 0.15 on Linux, so I'm not sure whether this is a >>> gettext >> >> I'm really getting confused. The LyX 1.6.5 binary for windows allows >> me to choose a different ui language. So, what is the problem ?

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-08 Thread Joost Verburg
On 3/8/2010 11:42 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: AFAIK it hasn't been confirmed that the language setting is also broken with gettext 0.15 on Linux, so I'm not sure whether this is a gettext I'm really getting confused. The LyX 1.6.5 binary for windows allows me to choose a different u

RE: Some technical details

2010-03-08 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW
>AFAIK it hasn't been confirmed that the language setting is also broken >with gettext 0.15 on Linux, so I'm not sure whether this is a gettext I'm really getting confused. The LyX 1.6.5 binary for windows allows me to choose a different ui language. So, what is the problem ? Vincent

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-08 Thread Joost Verburg
On 3/8/2010 6:06 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote: (A newer version of gettext is not yet available for Windows, that's also the reason why changing the LyX menu language doesn't work on Windows via the preferences menu. Joost is working on that and I cannot update gettext until he finished this work.) i

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > There's another problem. Even when Jürgen remerges and our translators > send us po-files modified with Poedit, Pootle, Virtaal or whatever, we > would have linebreak diffs. I usually remerge the files before committing (sometimes the submitted files are not up to date). Jür

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-08 Thread Pavel Sanda
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > However, I also use gettext 0.15.x to remerge. I don't know why this > remerge has different linebreaks. now i'm confused how poedit and gettext usage are joined (sorry i dont use poedit). can you describe the exact steps of your po-updates/remerges? where poedit comes in play

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-08 Thread Uwe Stöhr
>> But why are the linebreaks a problem. > > but translators do not remerge files from themselves, no? (what is the > point that we remerge ourselves then.) I see your point now. However, I also use gettext 0.15.x to remerge. I don't know why this remerge has different linebreaks. (A newer vers

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 6 mars 10 à 18:34, José Matos a écrit : On Saturday 06 March 2010 15:35:49 Pavel Sanda wrote: hi, * make dist produces both bzip and gzip files. why do we use both. wouldn't be bzip one enough? Jose, JMarc? We try to be conservative and the disc space is not a constraint. FWIW I would s

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-07 Thread Pavel Sanda
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > > * long time issue. we are constantly committing tons of senseless > > diffs of our .po files just because gettext do different line breaking. > > we should finally resolve this. > > Uwe, Juergen what gettext version do you have? (0.17 here). > > I don't use gettext, I use the

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-06 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> * long time issue. we are constantly committing tons of senseless > diffs of our .po files just because gettext do different line breaking. > we should finally resolve this. > Uwe, Juergen what gettext version do you have? (0.17 here). I don't use gettext, I use the latest version of poedit: h

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-06 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 04:35:49PM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Enrico README.Cygwin? I have updated it. -- Enrico

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-06 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag 06 März 2010 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > Kornel Benko wrote: > > Am Samstag 06 März 2010 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > > > Kornel Benko wrote: > > > > Am Samstag 06 März 2010 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > > > > > Kornel, you might want to check INSTALL.cmake? > > > > > > > > Ok, there should be a paragra

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-06 Thread José Matos
On Saturday 06 March 2010 15:35:49 Pavel Sanda wrote: > hi, > > * make dist produces both bzip and gzip files. why do we use both. > wouldn't be bzip one enough? Jose, JMarc? We try to be conservative and the disc space is not a constraint. FWIW I would suggest to drop bzip2 and add lzma to the

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
Kornel Benko wrote: > Am Samstag 06 März 2010 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > > Kornel Benko wrote: > > > Am Samstag 06 März 2010 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > > > > Kornel, you might want to check INSTALL.cmake? > > > > > > Ok, there should be a paragraph which mentions the package creation on > > > systems wit

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-06 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag 06 März 2010 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > Kornel Benko wrote: > > Am Samstag 06 März 2010 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > > > Kornel, you might want to check INSTALL.cmake? > > > > Ok, there should be a paragraph which mentions the package creation on > > systems with red hat or debian package manage

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
Kornel Benko wrote: > Am Samstag 06 März 2010 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > > Kornel, you might want to check INSTALL.cmake? > > > > Ok, there should be a paragraph which mentions the package creation on systems > with red hat or debian package management. > > Installation as package is sooo much mor

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-06 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag 06 März 2010 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > Kornel, you might want to check INSTALL.cmake? > Ok, there should be a paragraph which mentions the package creation on systems with red hat or debian package management. Installation as package is sooo much more confortable. E.g. Creating a Red

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-06 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Pavel Sanda wrote: > * file NEWS seems to be no more used, what about move to attic? It is actively used at least in branch. > * long time issue. we are constantly commiting tons of senseless > diffs of our .po files just because gettext do different line breaking. > we should finally resolve

Re: Some technical details

2010-03-06 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Samstag 06 März 2010 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > hi, > ... > * Windows people, can you quickly check INSTALL.Win32,scons to be > up-to-date? Kornel, you might want to check INSTALL.cmake? I use it all the time, so from my point of view this is up to date. (My workflow (on ubuntu) is: cd bu

Some technical details

2010-03-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
hi, * make dist produces both bzip and gzip files. why do we use both. wouldn't be bzip one enough? Jose, JMarc? * file NEWS seems to be no more used, what about move to attic? * long time issue. we are constantly commiting tons of senseless diffs of our .po files just because gettext do dif