Re[3]: [OT] TeXmacs?)

2001-04-26 Thread Guenter Milde
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 12:28:57 -0400 wrote Matej Cepl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I do not want quarrel with you about such a triviality, but what > I mean is, that by embedding Python you would allow us, > non-programmers, to help you a send you beautiful :-) programmes > for everything WE need (no

Re: Embedded Python (Was: Re: [OT] TeXmacs?)

2001-04-25 Thread Matej Cepl
On Wed 25 duben 2001 12:06 Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: > Matej Cepl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | YES! Than I would be able to get my beloved > | transpose-characters function, which nobody cares to > | implement in LyX. > > You only have to provide a patch... > > (same as you would have to do wi

Embedded Python (Was: Re: [OT] TeXmacs?)

2001-04-25 Thread Matej Cepl
On úterý 24 duben 2001 21:51 you wrote: > > 3.TeXmacs comes with the Guile/Scheme extension > > language. > > Hmmm... we'll almost certainly end up with Python. Asger has > already shown about 3 years ago that Python can be embedded in > a couple of lines. The problem is more a matter o

Re: Embedded Python (Was: Re: [OT] TeXmacs?)

2001-04-25 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Matej Cepl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | YES! Than I would be able to get my beloved transpose-characters | function, which nobody cares to implement in LyX. You only have to provide a patch... (same as you would have to do with python, unless you don't want to share of course.) -- L

Re: Embedded Python (Was: Re: [OT] TeXmacs?)

2001-04-25 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien
>>From: Matej Cepl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "LyX disc. list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Embedded Python (Was: Re: [OT] TeXmacs?) >>Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:12:56 -0400 >> >>On úterý 24 duben 2001 21:51 you wrote: >&

Embedded Python (Was: Re: [OT] TeXmacs?)

2001-04-25 Thread Ronald Florence
Matej Cepl writes: YES! Than I would be able to get my beloved transpose-characters function, which nobody cares to implement in LyX. I wouldn't know how to implement it, but I'll second the request. In addition to a transpose-characters (C-t) function, LyX could use a transpose-words

Re: Embedded Python (Was: Re: [OT] TeXmacs?)

2001-04-25 Thread Rem
- Original Message - From: "Matej Cepl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "LyX disc. list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 9:12 AM Subject: Embedded Python (Was: Re: [OT] TeXmacs?) > On úterý 24 duben 2001 21:51 you wrote: > > >

Lyx for OSX (was [OT] TeXmacs?)

2001-04-25 Thread Jacobo Myesrton
I think that LyX could look very good ported to MacOSX. The port should not be very difficult. It is a matter of rewriting the GUI in Cocoa. Is somebody working on this?

Re: Lyx for OSX (was [OT] TeXmacs?)

2001-04-25 Thread Allan Rae
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Jacobo Myesrton wrote: > I think that LyX could look very good ported to MacOSX. The port should > not be very difficult. It is a matter of rewriting the GUI in Cocoa. "...not be very difficult" ;-) Complexity of porting medium-to-low, learning curve of Cocoa unknown. >

Re: [OT] TeXmacs? (or Maxima & LyX)

2001-04-25 Thread Andre Poenitz
> > I'll give them that one for the moment (although Maple LaTeX import > > apparently works) and we've had at least two different interested groups > > start some work on this but they seem to have disappeared. > > Who cares about proprietary Maple ;) Well, I care, since that's what I am using.

Re: [OT] TeXmacs?

2001-04-25 Thread Niklas Werner
Stefano Ghirlanda wrote: > > Matej Cepl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Wereb't there some attempts to rewrite NeXT environment for X as > > a free soft (GNUStep)? As I remember, they tried to create some > > kind of Display PostScript based on the Ghostscript (there are > > some remaints in t

Re: Re[2]: [OT] TeXmacs?

2001-04-25 Thread Andre Poenitz
> So, how do you do it? ;-) Works only with latest CVS and the patch I send yesterday to lyx-devel and only for a very limited set of operations. Note that this combination is not to be used for serious work. Latest recommended version for serious work involving math is CVS from early February,

Re: [OT] TeXmacs? (or Maxima & LyX)

2001-04-25 Thread Andre Poenitz
> You would get no ERT at all in LyX if reLyX was able to convert > {1}\over{\sqrt{3}} as \frac{1}{sqrt{3}}: this is more difficult... > Is it a weakness of reLyX (i.e. no implementation of math TeX constructs > in mathed ?). That's not a job for reLyX, but for the mathed parser... Andre' -- A

Re[2]: [OT] TeXmacs?

2001-04-25 Thread Guenter Milde
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:19:05 +0200 (CEST) wrote Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > 4.You can use TeXmacs as an interface to computer algebra systems. > > [...] > > I was thinking about developing 4 for some time but a number of > > circumstances have halted the project. Please mail

Re: [OT] TeXmacs? (or Maxima & LyX)

2001-04-25 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien
>>Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:07:45 +0300 (EEST) >>From: Tuukka Toivonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: Allan Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>cc: LyX Users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: [OT] TeXmacs? (or Maxima & LyX) >> >>On Wed, 25 A

Re: [OT] TeXmacs? (or Maxima & LyX)

2001-04-24 Thread Tuukka Toivonen
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Allan Rae wrote: > I'll give them that one for the moment (although Maple LaTeX import > apparently works) and we've had at least two different interested groups > start some work on this but they seem to have disappeared. Who cares about proprietary Maple ;) What would be n

Re: [OT] TeXmacs?

2001-04-24 Thread Juha Siltala
Hi, My experience was similar. texmacs was so slow as to being unusable. Perhaps this is not a problem for Quake III machines :) Juha On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Niklas Werner wrote: > Hi All! > > Sorry to be a bit offtopic. (This is not meant to start a new WYSIWYM > vs. WYSIWYG debate) > Has an

Re: [OT] TeXmacs?

2001-04-24 Thread Allan Rae
On 24 Apr 2001, Stefano Ghirlanda wrote: > Question 5. What are the differences between TeXmacs and LyX? > >Answer. TeXmacs is a more ambitious project. Some of its major >advantages are the following: > > 1.TeXmacs is fully WYSIWYG. With all the problems that entails.

Re: [OT] TeXmacs?

2001-04-24 Thread Stefano Ghirlanda
Matej Cepl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Wereb't there some attempts to rewrite NeXT environment for X as > a free soft (GNUStep)? As I remember, they tried to create some > kind of Display PostScript based on the Ghostscript (there are > some remaints in the ghostscript distribution until now

Re: [OT] TeXmacs?

2001-04-24 Thread Matej Cepl
On úterý 24 duben 2001 5:27 you wrote: > I guess it's the latter, there is a Type1 Server Module in > XFree4. there's something about Window::KeyPress() that loads > some ps_device. starting up creates all the needed fonts, thus > takes a very long time... not reading in the terminal makes > you

Re: [OT] TeXmacs?

2001-04-24 Thread Andre Poenitz
> 4.You can use TeXmacs as an interface to computer algebra systems. > [...] > I was thinking about developing 4 for some time but a number of > circumstances have halted the project. Please mail me if you have some > valuable insight into a nice way of doing it. Well, do you mean some

Re: [OT] TeXmacs?

2001-04-24 Thread Stefano Ghirlanda
Niklas Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Has anybody ever tried TeXmacs? (www.texmacs.org) I have tried an earlier version. The display looks good, but I found some major problems (for me, they are intentional features). TeXmacs is *not* a frontend to TeX/LaTeX, it *never* runs these. You can

Re: [OT] TeXmacs?

2001-04-24 Thread Niklas Werner
> Looks very impressive. Everything antialiased. And did I see correctly > from the screenshots, that it supports directly pari (something kind of > what i suggested for lyx and maxima)...? yupp, that's right > But if it actually runs tex after each keypress, then it really has to > be slow. Or

Re: [OT] TeXmacs?

2001-04-24 Thread Tuukka Toivonen
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Niklas Werner wrote: > Has anybody ever tried TeXmacs? (www.texmacs.org) > seems to be the attempt to bring Latex to WYSIWYG, though it doesn't > really work for me ;-(. it's incredibly slow, because it tries to display Looks very impressive. Everything antialiased. And di

[OT] TeXmacs?

2001-04-24 Thread Niklas Werner
Hi All! Sorry to be a bit offtopic. (This is not meant to start a new WYSIWYM vs. WYSIWYG debate) Has anybody ever tried TeXmacs? (www.texmacs.org) seems to be the attempt to bring Latex to WYSIWYG, though it doesn't really work for me ;-(. it's incredibly slow, because it tries to display the