Re: LyX Forum?

2009/4/2 Paul A. Rubin ru...@msu.edu Rich Shepard wrote: More to the point, with a forum you have to go to it and pull then information to your machine; with a mail list, the information is pushed to your machine and all you need do is handle it as you wish. Not necessarily. I'm

Re: LyX Forum?

2009/4/2 Paul A. Rubin ru...@msu.edu Rich Shepard wrote: More to the point, with a forum you have to go to it and pull then information to your machine; with a mail list, the information is pushed to your machine and all you need do is handle it as you wish. Not necessarily. I'm

Re: LyX Forum?

2009/4/2 Paul A. Rubin > Rich Shepard wrote: > > >> More to the point, with a forum you have to go to it and pull then >> information to your machine; with a mail list, the information is pushed >> to >> your machine and all you need do is handle it as you wish. >> >> > Not

Re: LyX Forum?

Rich Shepard wrote: More to the point, with a forum you have to go to it and pull then information to your machine; with a mail list, the information is pushed to your machine and all you need do is handle it as you wish. Not necessarily. I'm subscribed to a few forums via RSS. Posts

Re: LyX Forum?

Rich Shepard wrote: More to the point, with a forum you have to go to it and pull then information to your machine; with a mail list, the information is pushed to your machine and all you need do is handle it as you wish. Not necessarily. I'm subscribed to a few forums via RSS. Posts

Re: LyX Forum?

Rich Shepard wrote: More to the point, with a forum you have to go to it and pull then information to your machine; with a mail list, the information is pushed to your machine and all you need do is handle it as you wish. Not necessarily. I'm subscribed to a few forums via RSS. Posts

Re: LyX Forum?

Nikos Alexandris nikos.alexand...@felis.uni-freiburg.de writes: Don't you really start a new thread by changing the subject? I this is the case, the information is still not organised/concentrated in one place as it should be. Smart mail readers do not use the subject only to see threads.

Re: LyX Forum?

prefer a forum-like web-based interface to the users' list, check us out on our `Nabble page http://www.nabble.com/LyX---Users-f28347.html`_ [nabble.com]. so this seems possible (it did not work for me, endless loading and no content shown). There's a LyX forum in LaTeX community but it's

Re: LyX Forum?

2009/3/31 Nikos Alexandris nikos.alexand...@felis.uni-freiburg.de: On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 23:05 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote: when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter is, in my

Re: LyX Forum?

2009/3/30 Paul A. Rubin ru...@msu.edu: [...] One advantage that I think a forum might have over the current list/group structure is that on most forums (at least the forums I visit), I can scroll down a thread and see all the message text in one gulp.  With a long thread, such as this one, I

Re: LyX Forum?

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Guenter Milde wrote: I agree that a side-bar link saying Mailing Lists / Forum can raise expectations that are not met by linked page http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists. IMO, this page should contain a section I sent the password for editing the web page to Guenter

Re: LyX Forum?

it in the same way of a 15 years old boy, *** because they started using it at the same moment. And I guess we can't call him a neostrada child. Arguments that claims forum is not good enough because the only existing LyX forum has just a few contributors is too much similar to saying why caring

Re: LyX Forum?

On 2009-03-31, Christian Ridderström wrote: ---310244551-99825937-1238496499=:12262 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Guenter Milde wrote: I agree that a side-bar link saying Mailing Lists / Forum can raise

Re: LyX Forum?

. Or figure things out and become a forum-based expert yourself. There's a LyX forum in LaTeX community but it's not as active as this discussion list; anyway I found that, as I did, other users posted something for this list in Nabble and then didn't get the answers because they didn't know Nabble

Re: LyX Forum?

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 02:38:21AM +0200, Nikos Alexandris wrote: One thing that is not that good in MLs are LONG threads as the current one. It's hard to follow sometimes and people tend to post irrelevant stuff on a ML-thread or change the subject of it so a new thread starts when it's not

Re: LyX Forum?

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 07:08:23AM +0200, Nikos Alexandris wrote: On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 23:05 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote: when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter is, in my

Re: LyX Forum?

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Andre Poenitz wrote: With mailing lists, the client have all the power to filter, sort, whatever. With forums, you are at the mercy of the forum admin. If he deeems sorting unimportant, well, then you can't sort. Period. Yup. Alping (formerly pine), mutt, and elm all do

Re: LyX Forum?

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Guenter Milde wrote: I did the proposed edits to http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists. Please view and comment. Looks good, thanks. Christian Günter -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44

Re: LyX Forum?

Nikos Alexandris nikos.alexand...@felis.uni-freiburg.de writes: Don't you really start a new thread by changing the subject? I this is the case, the information is still not organised/concentrated in one place as it should be. Smart mail readers do not use the subject only to see threads.

Re: LyX Forum?

prefer a forum-like web-based interface to the users' list, check us out on our `Nabble page http://www.nabble.com/LyX---Users-f28347.html`_ [nabble.com]. so this seems possible (it did not work for me, endless loading and no content shown). There's a LyX forum in LaTeX community but it's

Re: LyX Forum?

2009/3/31 Nikos Alexandris nikos.alexand...@felis.uni-freiburg.de: On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 23:05 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote: when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter is, in my

Re: LyX Forum?

2009/3/30 Paul A. Rubin ru...@msu.edu: [...] One advantage that I think a forum might have over the current list/group structure is that on most forums (at least the forums I visit), I can scroll down a thread and see all the message text in one gulp.  With a long thread, such as this one, I

Re: LyX Forum?

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Guenter Milde wrote: I agree that a side-bar link saying Mailing Lists / Forum can raise expectations that are not met by linked page http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists. IMO, this page should contain a section I sent the password for editing the web page to Guenter

Re: LyX Forum?

it in the same way of a 15 years old boy, *** because they started using it at the same moment. And I guess we can't call him a neostrada child. Arguments that claims forum is not good enough because the only existing LyX forum has just a few contributors is too much similar to saying why caring

Re: LyX Forum?

On 2009-03-31, Christian Ridderström wrote: ---310244551-99825937-1238496499=:12262 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Guenter Milde wrote: I agree that a side-bar link saying Mailing Lists / Forum can raise

Re: LyX Forum?

. Or figure things out and become a forum-based expert yourself. There's a LyX forum in LaTeX community but it's not as active as this discussion list; anyway I found that, as I did, other users posted something for this list in Nabble and then didn't get the answers because they didn't know Nabble

Re: LyX Forum?

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 02:38:21AM +0200, Nikos Alexandris wrote: One thing that is not that good in MLs are LONG threads as the current one. It's hard to follow sometimes and people tend to post irrelevant stuff on a ML-thread or change the subject of it so a new thread starts when it's not

Re: LyX Forum?

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 07:08:23AM +0200, Nikos Alexandris wrote: On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 23:05 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote: when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter is, in my

Re: LyX Forum?

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Andre Poenitz wrote: With mailing lists, the client have all the power to filter, sort, whatever. With forums, you are at the mercy of the forum admin. If he deeems sorting unimportant, well, then you can't sort. Period. Yup. Alping (formerly pine), mutt, and elm all do

Re: LyX Forum?

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Guenter Milde wrote: I did the proposed edits to http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists. Please view and comment. Looks good, thanks. Christian Günter -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44

Re: LyX Forum?

Nikos Alexandris writes: > Don't you really start a new thread by changing the subject? I this is > the case, the information is still not organised/concentrated in one > place as it should be. Smart mail readers do not use the subject only to see threads.

Re: LyX Forum?

rnately, if you prefer a forum-like web-based interface to the users' list, check us out on our `Nabble page <http://www.nabble.com/LyX---Users-f28347.html>`_ [nabble.com]. so this seems possible (it did not work for me, endless loading and no content shown). > There's a LyX f

Re: LyX Forum?

2009/3/31 Nikos Alexandris : > On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 23:05 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >> On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote: >> >> > when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark >> > ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter

Re: LyX Forum?

2009/3/30 Paul A. Rubin : [...] > One advantage that I think a forum might have over the current list/group > structure is that on most forums (at least the forums I visit), I can scroll > down a thread and see all the message text in one gulp.  With a long thread, > such as this

Re: LyX Forum?

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Guenter Milde wrote: I agree that a side-bar link saying "Mailing Lists / Forum" can raise expectations that are not met by linked page http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists. IMO, this page should contain a section I sent the password for editing the web page to Guenter

Re: LyX Forum?

culty uses the internet in order to look for information, no matter his age, he uses it in the same way of a 15 years old boy, *** because they started using it at the same moment. And I guess we can't call him a "neostrada child". Arguments that claims forum is not good enough becaus

Re: LyX Forum?

On 2009-03-31, Christian Ridderström wrote: > ---310244551-99825937-1238496499=:12262 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT > On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Guenter Milde wrote: >> I agree that a side-bar link saying "Mailing Lists / Forum" can

Re: LyX Forum?

so I hope. Or figure things out and become a forum-based expert yourself. There's a LyX forum in "LaTeX community" but it's not as active as this discussion list; anyway I found that, as I did, other users posted something for this list in Nabble and then didn't get the answers because they

Re: LyX Forum?

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 02:38:21AM +0200, Nikos Alexandris wrote: > One thing that is not that good in MLs are LONG threads as the current > one. It's hard to follow sometimes and people tend to post irrelevant > stuff on a ML-thread or change the subject of it so a new thread starts > when it's

Re: LyX Forum?

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 07:08:23AM +0200, Nikos Alexandris wrote: > On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 23:05 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote: > > > > > when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark > > > ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter

Re: LyX Forum?

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Andre Poenitz wrote: With mailing lists, the client have all the power to filter, sort, whatever. With forums, you are at the mercy of the forum admin. If he deeems sorting unimportant, well, then you can't sort. Period. Yup. Alping (formerly pine), mutt, and elm all do

Re: LyX Forum?

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Guenter Milde wrote: I did the proposed edits to http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists. Please view and comment. Looks good, thanks. Christian Günter -- Christian Ridderström Mobile: +46-70 687 39 44

Re: LyX Forum?

2009/3/30 Piero Faustini pierofaust...@hotmail.com Hello once again. I can't reply to all. [...] Of course about children, I was pointing out that forums are VERY simple. And it's exactly what I was trying to explain: the list concept is VERY old (whatever this means). Yes, also e-mail

Re: LyX Forum?

Piero Faustini wrote: How many people use mailing lists? How many use forums? Say 1 lister every 20 forumers? Say 1 to 10 (and I'm fair)? Fairness doesn't enter into it. Either you have data, or you don't. It's not me who says lists are difficoult, it's people. I never used lists before

Re: LyX Forum?

FWIW ... I subscribe to both lists and forums, although I prefer to view lists as newsgroups where that's an option (such as this list, which I access via the GMANE group). A forum that supplies RSS feeds is not too different in many respects from a newsgroup. One advantage that I think a

Re: LyX Forum?

Just my view upon this: I find mailing lists (ML) very convenient and I don't follow forums in general except of the ubuntuforums.org. But MLs have several drawbacks. One thing that is not that good in MLs are LONG threads as the current one. It's hard to follow sometimes and people tend to post

Re: LyX Forum?

On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote: when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter is, in my humble opinion, a big drawback. When I ask a question and then either am giving an answer or figure one out, I reply one more

Re: LyX Forum?

On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 23:05 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote: when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter is, in my humble opinion, a big drawback. When I ask a question and then

Re: LyX Forum?

2009/3/30 Piero Faustini pierofaust...@hotmail.com Hello once again. I can't reply to all. [...] Of course about children, I was pointing out that forums are VERY simple. And it's exactly what I was trying to explain: the list concept is VERY old (whatever this means). Yes, also e-mail

Re: LyX Forum?

Piero Faustini wrote: How many people use mailing lists? How many use forums? Say 1 lister every 20 forumers? Say 1 to 10 (and I'm fair)? Fairness doesn't enter into it. Either you have data, or you don't. It's not me who says lists are difficoult, it's people. I never used lists before

Re: LyX Forum?

FWIW ... I subscribe to both lists and forums, although I prefer to view lists as newsgroups where that's an option (such as this list, which I access via the GMANE group). A forum that supplies RSS feeds is not too different in many respects from a newsgroup. One advantage that I think a

Re: LyX Forum?

Just my view upon this: I find mailing lists (ML) very convenient and I don't follow forums in general except of the ubuntuforums.org. But MLs have several drawbacks. One thing that is not that good in MLs are LONG threads as the current one. It's hard to follow sometimes and people tend to post

Re: LyX Forum?

On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote: when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter is, in my humble opinion, a big drawback. When I ask a question and then either am giving an answer or figure one out, I reply one more

Re: LyX Forum?

On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 23:05 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote: when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter is, in my humble opinion, a big drawback. When I ask a question and then

Re: LyX Forum?

2009/3/30 Piero Faustini > > > > Hello once again. > > I can't reply to all. > [...] Of course about children, I was pointing out that forums are VERY simple. > And > it's exactly what I was trying to explain: the list concept is VERY old > (whatever this means). Yes,

Re: LyX Forum?

Piero Faustini wrote: > > How many people use mailing lists? How many use forums? Say 1 lister every 20 > forumers? Say 1 to 10 (and I'm fair)? Fairness doesn't enter into it. Either you have data, or you don't. > It's not me who says lists are > difficoult, it's people. I never used lists

Re: LyX Forum?

FWIW ... I subscribe to both lists and forums, although I prefer to view lists as newsgroups where that's an option (such as this list, which I access via the GMANE group). A forum that supplies RSS feeds is not too different in many respects from a newsgroup. One advantage that I think a

Re: LyX Forum?

Just my view upon this: I find mailing lists (ML) very convenient and I don't follow forums in general except of the "ubuntuforums.org". But MLs have several drawbacks. One thing that is not that good in MLs are LONG threads as the current one. It's hard to follow sometimes and people tend to

Re: LyX Forum?

On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote: > when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark > ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter is, in my humble opinion, a big > drawback. When I ask a question and then either am giving an answer or figure one out, I reply one

Re: LyX Forum?

On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 23:05 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Monday 30 March 2009 08:38:21 pm Nikos Alexandris wrote: > > > when it's not required. In addition, it's not possible to mark > > ML-threads as SOLVED. The latter is, in my humble opinion, a big > > drawback. > > When I ask a question and

LyX Forum?

but... why don't we use a normal forum site? There's a LyX forum in LaTeX community but it's not as active as this discussion list; anyway I found that, as I did, other users posted something for this list in Nabble and then didn't get the answers because they didn't know Nabble don't post messages

Re: LyX Forum?

Piero Faustini schrieb: I wonder why could not these discussions been moved to a forum. I mean, the discussion list is great but is very hard to use for common users Why is it hard to use? You sing the mailing list and then get the emails as described here: http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists

Re: LyX Forum?

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Piero Faustini wrote: I wonder why could not these discussions been moved to a forum. I mean, the discussion list is great but is very hard to use for common users (I use GMANE for writing/browsing but I still receive daily updates in my mailbox). You can disable the

Re: LyX Forum?

Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@... writes: Why is it hard to use? You sing the mailing list and then get the emails as described here: http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists The whole list is archived at various websites. How many people use mailing lists? How many use forums? Say 1 lister every 20

Re: LyX Forum?

On Sunday 29 March 2009 11:56:18 Piero Faustini wrote: Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@... writes: Why is it hard to use? You sing the mailing list and then get the emails as described here: http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists The whole list is archived at various websites. How many people use

Re: LyX Forum?

Stefano Franchi schrieb: The issue though, is that the great support Lyx provides is (mostly) in the hands of a relatively small group of people who very generously share their time and expertise---Uwe himself being perhaps the most active member of this group. What they prefer is the law of

Re: LyX Forum?

2009/3/29 Piero Faustini pierofaust...@hotmail.com [...] Integrate doesn't mean computer-pro. Sometimes it's opposite to pro. Children use forums. They always had, because they are very, VERY simple. Lists are not that simple, comparing to forums (unless you care about cookies, which 99%

Re: LyX Forum?

Stefano Franchi fran...@... writes: Like Uwe, I am not quite sure I understand what's so difficult about lists. That is, unless you are used to reading mail in a browser and never used a mail client. Of course I use a webclient (M$Hotmail, the worst ever, but who cares?) and everything

Re: LyX Forum?

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Piero Faustini wrote: else. What I lack most of LyX (and LaTeX)? Web-based environments, web-based bibliographies, web-based computing.. ok, we can't have EVERYTHING, but the various Google-Whatever are the best creatures of the net and this is the future, we all know it.

Re: LyX Forum?

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Uwe Stöhr wrote: (I started supporting LyX with its mailing list btw. and I cannot think right now that anything else might be easier. And I'm 29, so not too old not to know the possibilities of forums ;-) ) I'm 35, so I don't see the advantages with forums... or lists

Re: LyX Forum?

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Christian Ridderstr?m wrote: Seriously though, why is a forum different from a list? /Christian, Two differences, as far as I know: 1.) Fora are hosted on a web site and mail lists are hosted on a server that needs no more than a mailing list manager (MLM). The

Re: LyX Forum?

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 04:56:18PM +, Piero Faustini wrote: Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@... writes: Why is it hard to use? You sing the mailing list and then get the emails as described here: http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists The whole list is archived at various websites. How many people

Re: LyX Forum?

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 08:34:14PM +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote: [...] Seriously though, why is a forum different from a list? The problem seems to be that he uses a web interface to read a mails. Of course, with such a background, a well-organized forum _is_ an advantage. Like using a

Re: LyX Forum?

). A forum-like interface like Nabble would be much better but... why don't we use a normal forum site? There's a LyX forum in LaTeX community but it's not as active as this discussion list; anyway I found that, as I did, other users posted something for this list in Nabble and then didn't get

Re: LyX Forum?

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Andre Poenitz wrote: It's not me who says lists are difficoult, it's people. I never used lists before knowing LyX. Other people used mailing lists before web forums had been in use. First there was ARPANET (text based), then BitNet (text based), then Usenet (text

Re: LyX Forum?

Rich Shepard wrote: Books for adults (well, most adults who don't read comic books, anyway) don't have all the enhancements of a GUI; neither do newspapers. Which, I'm sad to say, may explain why newspapers all around the US are shutting their doors. Don't get me wrong, I'm one of the several

Re: LyX Forum?

Rich Shepard wrote: Usenet used to be OK. Now, unfortunately, it's jammed with spam and folks with attitudes. Mail lists tend to be more polite and helpful. Amen to that. And the LyX list is extraordinarily polite, helpful, relevant, and knowledgable. I have used several lists related to

Re: LyX Forum?

Hello once again. I can't reply to all. I can read with my eyes not even one of you agreed with any of my arguments (not speaking of the thesis). I only want to point out that many counter- arguments where correct but quite off-topic, many where correct but weak, the most strong ones were

Re: LyX Forum?

). A forum-like interface like Nabble would be much better but... why don't we use a normal forum site? There's a LyX forum in LaTeX community but it's not as active as this discussion list; anyway I found that, as I did, other users posted something for this list in Nabble and then didn't get

LyX Forum?

but... why don't we use a normal forum site? There's a LyX forum in LaTeX community but it's not as active as this discussion list; anyway I found that, as I did, other users posted something for this list in Nabble and then didn't get the answers because they didn't know Nabble don't post messages

Re: LyX Forum?

Piero Faustini schrieb: I wonder why could not these discussions been moved to a forum. I mean, the discussion list is great but is very hard to use for common users Why is it hard to use? You sing the mailing list and then get the emails as described here: http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists

Re: LyX Forum?

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Piero Faustini wrote: I wonder why could not these discussions been moved to a forum. I mean, the discussion list is great but is very hard to use for common users (I use GMANE for writing/browsing but I still receive daily updates in my mailbox). You can disable the

Re: LyX Forum?

Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@... writes: Why is it hard to use? You sing the mailing list and then get the emails as described here: http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists The whole list is archived at various websites. How many people use mailing lists? How many use forums? Say 1 lister every 20

Re: LyX Forum?

On Sunday 29 March 2009 11:56:18 Piero Faustini wrote: Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@... writes: Why is it hard to use? You sing the mailing list and then get the emails as described here: http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists The whole list is archived at various websites. How many people use

Re: LyX Forum?

Stefano Franchi schrieb: The issue though, is that the great support Lyx provides is (mostly) in the hands of a relatively small group of people who very generously share their time and expertise---Uwe himself being perhaps the most active member of this group. What they prefer is the law of

Re: LyX Forum?

2009/3/29 Piero Faustini pierofaust...@hotmail.com [...] Integrate doesn't mean computer-pro. Sometimes it's opposite to pro. Children use forums. They always had, because they are very, VERY simple. Lists are not that simple, comparing to forums (unless you care about cookies, which 99%

Re: LyX Forum?

Stefano Franchi fran...@... writes: Like Uwe, I am not quite sure I understand what's so difficult about lists. That is, unless you are used to reading mail in a browser and never used a mail client. Of course I use a webclient (M$Hotmail, the worst ever, but who cares?) and everything

Re: LyX Forum?

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Piero Faustini wrote: else. What I lack most of LyX (and LaTeX)? Web-based environments, web-based bibliographies, web-based computing.. ok, we can't have EVERYTHING, but the various Google-Whatever are the best creatures of the net and this is the future, we all know it.

Re: LyX Forum?

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Uwe Stöhr wrote: (I started supporting LyX with its mailing list btw. and I cannot think right now that anything else might be easier. And I'm 29, so not too old not to know the possibilities of forums ;-) ) I'm 35, so I don't see the advantages with forums... or lists

Re: LyX Forum?

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Christian Ridderstr?m wrote: Seriously though, why is a forum different from a list? /Christian, Two differences, as far as I know: 1.) Fora are hosted on a web site and mail lists are hosted on a server that needs no more than a mailing list manager (MLM). The

Re: LyX Forum?

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 04:56:18PM +, Piero Faustini wrote: Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@... writes: Why is it hard to use? You sing the mailing list and then get the emails as described here: http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists The whole list is archived at various websites. How many people

Re: LyX Forum?

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 08:34:14PM +0200, Christian Ridderström wrote: [...] Seriously though, why is a forum different from a list? The problem seems to be that he uses a web interface to read a mails. Of course, with such a background, a well-organized forum _is_ an advantage. Like using a

Re: LyX Forum?

). A forum-like interface like Nabble would be much better but... why don't we use a normal forum site? There's a LyX forum in LaTeX community but it's not as active as this discussion list; anyway I found that, as I did, other users posted something for this list in Nabble and then didn't get

Re: LyX Forum?

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Andre Poenitz wrote: It's not me who says lists are difficoult, it's people. I never used lists before knowing LyX. Other people used mailing lists before web forums had been in use. First there was ARPANET (text based), then BitNet (text based), then Usenet (text

Re: LyX Forum?

Rich Shepard wrote: Books for adults (well, most adults who don't read comic books, anyway) don't have all the enhancements of a GUI; neither do newspapers. Which, I'm sad to say, may explain why newspapers all around the US are shutting their doors. Don't get me wrong, I'm one of the several

Re: LyX Forum?

Rich Shepard wrote: Usenet used to be OK. Now, unfortunately, it's jammed with spam and folks with attitudes. Mail lists tend to be more polite and helpful. Amen to that. And the LyX list is extraordinarily polite, helpful, relevant, and knowledgable. I have used several lists related to

Re: LyX Forum?

Hello once again. I can't reply to all. I can read with my eyes not even one of you agreed with any of my arguments (not speaking of the thesis). I only want to point out that many counter- arguments where correct but quite off-topic, many where correct but weak, the most strong ones were

Re: LyX Forum?

). A forum-like interface like Nabble would be much better but... why don't we use a normal forum site? There's a LyX forum in LaTeX community but it's not as active as this discussion list; anyway I found that, as I did, other users posted something for this list in Nabble and then didn't get

LyX Forum?

but... why don't we use a normal forum site? There's a LyX forum in "LaTeX community" but it's not as active as this discussion list; anyway I found that, as I did, other users posted something for this list in Nabble and then didn't get the answers because they didn't know Nabble don't pos

Re: LyX Forum?

Piero Faustini schrieb: I wonder why could not these discussions been moved to a forum. I mean, the discussion list is great but is very hard to use for common users Why is it hard to use? You sing the mailing list and then get the emails as described here: http://www.lyx.org/MailingLists

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