Re: [M100] List rules reminder

2017-06-16 Thread Mike
I couldn't agree more. Mike KL7ILA On 6/16/2017 12:41 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: Just want to remind folks that we have a long standing no politics rule on the list. That includes the entire content of emails, including signatures. This is to keep our nice friendly atmosphere. Let's protec

Re: [M100] List rules reminder

2017-06-16 Thread Stephen Adolph
Well we all need patience when using the m100 😁 On Friday, June 16, 2017, Chris Fezzler wrote: > A+ > > The most mature listserv/social media space I've belonged to - for over a > decade? > > -- > *From:* John R. Hogerhuis > *To:* m...@bitchin100.com > *Sent:* Fr

Re: [M100] List rules reminder

2017-06-16 Thread Chris Fezzler
A+ The most mature listserv/social media space I've belonged to - for over a decade? From: John R. Hogerhuis To: m...@bitchin100.com Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 4:41 PM Subject: [M100] List rules reminder Just want to remind folks that we have a long standing no politics rule on th

Re: [M100] List rules reminder

2017-06-16 Thread John Gardner
... BAR RULES, MAN... :) On 6/16/17, MikeS wrote: > +1 > - Original Message - > From: Bob Pigford > To: m...@bitchin100.com > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 8:00 PM > Subject: Re: [M100] List rules reminder > > > Thanks, John! This is the most helpful and respectful list I

Re: [M100] List rules reminder

2017-06-16 Thread MikeS
+1 - Original Message - From: Bob Pigford To: m...@bitchin100.com Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [M100] List rules reminder Thanks, John! This is the most helpful and respectful list I know use. I appreciate each and every member for their comments and

Re: [M100] List rules reminder

2017-06-16 Thread Bob Pigford
Thanks, John! This is the most helpful and respectful list I know use. I appreciate each and every member for their comments and offers to help newbies! Thank you for the reminder. Bob PS: I was in a liquor store recently,and I asked the sales guy what he thought of the rec

[M100] m102 screen has been refinished....

2017-06-16 Thread user evers
Well, I used the suggestion from the Club and went with an order from Amazon for the Nouvo 1 & 2 to clean up the screen on my m102 WOW!!! I did clean it twice with the "1" and then washed it with hot soapy water. Then I had to use 3 applications of "2" and lots of elbow grease to get 99% of

[M100] List rules reminder

2017-06-16 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
Just want to remind folks that we have a long standing no politics rule on the list. That includes the entire content of emails, including signatures. This is to keep our nice friendly atmosphere. Let's protect that. We'll leave the political excitement to Facebook and Twitter. Other rules: no s

Re: [M100] Wifi232 serial wfi modem

2017-06-16 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
Actually you would need some filter to make that work to buffer and slow down traffic even with xon/xoff because linux overruns the m100. Either that or use a USB serial adapter on the pi, and hardware flow control with HTERM. That I know works because I've done it. -- John.

[M100] M10 PORTABLE COMPUTER Service manual (M10 Portable computer: Manuale Generale per l'Assistenza)

2017-06-16 Thread NEC
Hi folks. I know the service manual for TRS-80/100, TRS-80/102, TRS-80/200, PC-8201A and KC-85 are spread on the net so it is possible to download them. Maybe more tricky to find the one for the Olivetti M10, so here you go: http://www.microatena.it/scheda_libro.php?id=237&ord=N#menu_tabs For a

Re: [M100] Translating BASIC code from 100 to NEC.

2017-06-16 Thread NEC
Hi folks. @ Mike Stein OK Mike, thanks! PB$(1)=LEFT$(PB$(1),3) + LEFT$(D$,5) + RIGHT$(PB$(1),LEN(PB$(1))-9) seems works, or better it doesn't show any errors. Only by executing the whole code I'll be sure all it's well, anyway I hope it will be so. As for my statement, the word weak I used for t

Re: [M100] Wifi232 serial wfi modem

2017-06-16 Thread Ron Lauzon
Using a Rasp Pi is actually pretty easy. Hooking up an RS-232 shifter to the on-board serial port lets you use Model 100 as a console to the Rasp Pi. http://www.savagehomeautomation.com/projects/raspberry-pi-installing-a-rs232-serial-port.html >From there, you can pretty much do anything in Linux

Re: [M100] Wifi232 serial wfi modem

2017-06-16 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
BTW a value for wifi is that phones can share access to cellular network via wifi. Bluetooth is also good for that. -- John.

Re: [M100] Wifi232 serial wfi modem

2017-06-16 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Josh Malone wrote: > The captive portal sign-on is a real issue with wifi devices and (AFAIK) > is not dealt with by the wifi232 device. > Good point. W3M might be able to help you interactively manage some of those. Generally it's a matter of clicking a butto

Re: [M100] Wifi232 serial wfi modem

2017-06-16 Thread Mike Stein
Well, one way or another we've been talking about it for what, five, six years now, so it'll be nice to see it actually happen; Ken's proposal certainly sounds ambitious. Didn't someone already have a Pi connected as a bridge? Gonna have to browse the archive... I've got a few ESP8266 modules s

Re: [M100] Wifi232 serial wfi modem

2017-06-16 Thread Josh Malone
The captive portal sign-on is a real issue with wifi devices and (AFAIK) is not dealt with by the wifi232 device. The ESP might not have the chops for this, either - not sure. But it all sounds like a terribly difficult problem to solve given the poor engineering on these captive portal wifi servi

Re: [M100] Wifi232 serial wfi modem

2017-06-16 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Mike Stein wrote: > Hate to be a party-pooper but although it could be fun it seems to me that > we're reinventing the wheel with no real place to roll to... > Yes Mike you're being a party pooper :-) I kind of like the idea of putting the "server" on the attac

Re: [M100] Wifi232 serial wfi modem

2017-06-16 Thread Ken Pettit
Hi Mike, Understood and very good points. And you might be right on target about being a party-pooper. My idea for an internet connected M100 was always this: - Create an external RS-232 device with low-power WiFi module and ARM processor capable of running on AA batteries. - Add a "pass t

Re: [M100] Wifi232 serial wfi modem

2017-06-16 Thread Mike Stein
Hate to be a party-pooper but although it could be fun it seems to me that we're reinventing the wheel with no real place to roll to... Model T wired internet access has been available for years and Kurt's mComm gives you wireless access, but how many people have ever used it for more than just

Re: [M100] Wifi232 serial wfi modem

2017-06-16 Thread Kurt McCullum
That's what I ended up having to do with the Android code. It was too slow to catch the xoff before it flooded the buffer on the m100. I ended up having to check for it manually. It does slow things down a little bit doing this by the m100 is happy. And since the m100 screen is essentially opera

Re: [M100] Wifi232 serial wfi modem

2017-06-16 Thread Russell Davis
A couple of months ago I knocked up a serial wifi thingy using an esp8266 and https://github.com/bozimmerman/Zimodem firmware. worked really well with the M100 https://twitter.com/ukscone/statuses/856233567285899264 bst rgrds Russell On 6/16/2017 1:49 PM, Ken Pettit wrote: Hey Guys, I t

Re: [M100] Wifi232 serial wfi modem

2017-06-16 Thread Stephen Adolph
software could be modified to pick off xon/xoff locally... thought I read it was available. On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Kurt McCullum wrote: > Very cool. Though I think that this device will cause buffer over runs unless > you are using HTERM. > > At the risk of tooting my own horn, you can

Re: [M100] Wifi232 serial wfi modem

2017-06-16 Thread Ken Pettit
Hey Guys, I think we need to start a community project where we build an external device on the RS-232 port with a WiFi module and an STM32 ARM cortex part with firmware to manage internet access. This would mean open hardware plus an open software task to develop the firmware on the ARM.

Re: [M100] Wifi232 serial wfi modem

2017-06-16 Thread Kurt McCullum
Very cool. Though I think that this device will cause buffer over runs unless you are using HTERM. At the risk of tooting my own horn, you can already do this with mComm and an android phone or a PC. The legacy bbs (bbs.aoh.fi:2400) is well suited for the M100 with its 40 column output. Kurt

Re: [M100] Wifi232 serial wfi modem

2017-06-16 Thread Stephen Adolph
yah that's awesome. the little internal power supply may handle 100mA, not sure. To be safe I would take a pin or two on the RS-232 and connect straight to power input side of the DC/DC converter on the M100. that way - no external usb supply needed. On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Scott Lawrence

Re: [M100] Wifi232 serial wfi modem

2017-06-16 Thread Scott Lawrence
I knew I should have worked on making this thing when i first heard of the esp8266. heh. oh well... one less thing for me to make. It really is a very simple device... ESP8266 + RS232 line level converter + firmware on the ESP. -s On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Jim Williams wrote: > I just

[M100] Game idea - Tapper / Walnut Bowling

2017-06-16 Thread Jim Williams
I was thinking that a tapper-like game might be doable on the M100, suiting its wide screen. Then the other day I was playing Plants Vs Zombies, doing one of the miniquests; "Walnut Bowling". You start on the left side of the screen releasing walnuts. Zombies attack from the right side of the

[M100] Wifi232 serial wfi modem

2017-06-16 Thread Jim Williams
I just saw on YouTube... Lazy Game Reviews doing a review of the Wifi232 serial port - wifi adapter. He used it to connect to a list of BBSes. It's claimed to work with all kinds of old computers... including the M100. Here's a link to the video, and to the website of the guy who makes it: ht