On 9/27/22 19:43, Brian K. White wrote:
And I'm now working on yet a different idea that dispenses with the
special $6 Eurocard connector and supplies both banks from a single
ram chip on a single pcb that just lays across both connectors and
uses only plain vertical male pins. That will be
On 9/29/22 17:52, Tommy Phillips wrote:
A BASIC operating environment doesn't really meet the definition of
"operating system".
It is literally, the operating system of that device. There is no
particular set of features that defines "operating system". The literal
and only definition of
I'm working on building my library on books and docs related to the
TRS-80 Model 100. I have read over the last couple of days, the owner's
manual, quick start guide, and basic lab books. Next up are Oppedahl and
Enders. What are y'all's favorites related to programming the machine?
If it's in
On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 2:53 PM Tommy Phillips
wrote:
> A BASIC operating environment doesn't really meet the definition of
> "operating system".
>
> But maybe I am being too pedantic. It wouldn't be the first time.
>
>
Well the Model T ROM is a unique beast. More than a BASIC interpreter, less
A BASIC operating environment doesn't really meet the definition of
"operating system".
But maybe I am being too pedantic. It wouldn't be the first time.
On 9/29/2022 2:29 PM, Peter Vollan wrote:
Huh? The Model 100 says "Copyr. 1983 Microsoft" when you go into
basic. It is common knowledge
On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 1:29 PM Peter Vollan wrote:
> Huh? The Model 100 says "Copyr. 1983 Microsoft" when you go into basic. It
> is common knowledge that Bill wrote the OS himself.
>
>>
>>
Copyright indicates ownership not necessarily authorship. Bill G certainly
worked on the code. Maybe he
Not to mention, since no one has, the T600 that was not "compatible" with
anything. Though it was an 80c88 with MS "DOS" & Works. Multiplan & BASIC were
avalable in ROM. Then came the M2000 (i80186) and the IBM/Tandy era began.
I would've liked to see Deskmate for the MT and how that might have
Huh? The Model 100 says "Copyr. 1983 Microsoft" when you go into basic. It
is common knowledge that Bill wrote the OS himself.
On Thu, 29 Sept 2022 at 09:08, Tommy Phillips
wrote:
> ... and if I recall correctly, the Model 16 ran Xenix, thus being the only
> TRS-80 to run an O/S from Microsoft.
> -Original Message-
> Then, of course, you have the TRS-80 Model 100 and Tandy 200 computers.
> The Model 100 is almost entirely a rebadge of the Kyocera Kyotronic 85.
> The 200, never sold under the "TRS-80" banner, is incompatible. The
Not entirely incompatible... it uses the same CPU
I once had a 16. It actually had a Z80 and a 68000. It could boot Model II
TRSDOS, CPM-80, Xenix or TRSDOS-16. The Z80 was used as an I/O processor
when running a 68k operating system. The Model II could even be upgraded
with a 68000 processor. (And now we return to discussing Model T computers).
... and if I recall correctly, the Model 16 ran Xenix, thus being the
only TRS-80 to run an O/S from Microsoft.
This, of course, was years before Linux.
On 9/29/2022 9:04 AM, Chris Trainor wrote:
But still mostly a brand… the basis for the 80 was the Z80 in their
early stuff, but like the
> On Sep 29, 2022, at 8:05 AM, Chris Trainor wrote:
>
> But still mostly a brand… the basis for the 80 was the Z80
This is how I understand it from reading "Priming the Pump: How TRS-80
Enthusiasts Helped Spark the PC Revolution" a while back. The "80" reflected
the processor in the branding
But still mostly a brand… the basis for the 80 was the Z80 in their early
stuff, but like the Model 16 had a 68k in it. Plus even tho the II had a
Z80 like the I, III & IV, I thought operationally it was substantially
different and none of the I/III/IV stuff would work on it? (never used
Sure it is, but my 102 is not. :P
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022, 17:05 Will Senn wrote:
>
> I've been reading around a bit (all over the world actually) and there's a
> lot of stuff written about and for the TRS-80... as though it's a machine,
> not a designation. I wonder, just how close is an m100 to
On 9/29/2022 7:03 AM, Justin Poirier wrote:
...and even worse the TRS-80 Color Computers have a Motorola 6809...
Careful, you'll overheat the mug of CoCo, and then there will be a mess! :-)
--Justin
Just to fix a small error, the trs80 Model 100 is 8085 based.
Doug
On Thu, 29 Sept 2022, 10:13 pm Stephen Adolph, wrote:
> And to add to the confusion, there are 2 M100 in the world that actually
> do use a Z80!
>
> On Thursday, September 29, 2022, Justin Poirier
> wrote:
>
>> TRS-80 starts
And to add to the confusion, there are 2 M100 in the world that actually do
use a Z80!
On Thursday, September 29, 2022, Justin Poirier
wrote:
> TRS-80 starts for "Tandy Radio Shack" and "Z80 microprocessor." The
> M100/T102/T200 have an Intel 80C51 microcontroller, not a Zilog Z80, like
> the
TRS-80 starts for "Tandy Radio Shack" and "Z80 microprocessor." The
M100/T102/T200 have an Intel 80C51 microcontroller, not a Zilog Z80,
like the Model I, II, III, IV had, and even worse the TRS-80 Color
Computers have a Motorola 6809, so even in themselves, they were not
consistent in sticking to
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