Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility

2013-09-29 Thread John Panarese
I don’t know what you consider accessibility with Flash, but it is actually Adobe’s problem. They were gong to try to make Flash much more accessible at one point, but I think they abandoned that option. At this point, as the move to HTML5 is continuing, I doubt you are going to see

Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility

2013-09-29 Thread John Panarese
Please disregard the below message. I started to write it, but people had responded before I finished it and I thought it was scrapped. However, in restarting mail, the system seemed to send two messages that I thought were deleted, but apparently were not and were somehow in my outbox.

Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility

2013-09-28 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Will, I'm going to post them on the cecimac site. Cheers, Anne On 28 Sep 2013, at 12:47, William Lomas w.d.lo...@btinternet.com wrote: You mind sending me the french instructions? Many thanks Will --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your

Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility

2013-09-28 Thread Andy Collins
Thank you Anne. This sure looks like it needs some careful interaction with. Will spend some time on it and see how I go - Andy On 28 Sep 2013, at 14:23, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Everyone, Here's my ClickToFlash set up guide. Cheers, Anne ClickToFlash

Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility

2013-09-27 Thread Andy Collins
Hi all - In my frustration at not being able to listen to a sports stream, I contacted Apple accessibilty, below is there reply. It doesn't quite add up, as they say Adobe hasn't made flash accessible to screen readers, and yet JAWS for one does pretty much ok these days with it. Non the less,

Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility

2013-09-27 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andy, Try the Safari extension Click2Flash. It's a bit of a struggle to configure but it really helps with flash content. Cheers, Anne On 27 Sep 2013, at 21:07, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote: Hi all - In my frustration at not being able to listen to a sports stream,

Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility

2013-09-27 Thread Andy Collins
Hi Anne - This will be great if I can get it working. I just opened Safari, and clicked on Safari extentions from the menus, but just got taken back to the Apple store. So, do things like click2flash only show up in the menus when on a website that uses flash? - Andy On 27 Sep 2013, at 20:40,

Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility

2013-09-27 Thread Mike Arrigo
This is more of an adobe problem than a voiceover issue. Windows is a different platform, and Adobe has made flash somewhat accessible on that platform, but this has not been done on the mac. Fortunately, flash is slowly going away and being replaced by html 5 which provides all of the same

Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility

2013-09-27 Thread Andy Collins
Hi Anne - I now seem to have got click2flash installed, or at least I found it and clicked install, and it appears to be saying on the webpage that it has installed, but as it wasn't a conventional download, it isn't in the downloads folder, so not sure what I'm supposed to do next? - Andy On

Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility

2013-09-27 Thread Andy Collins
Thanks for the info about HTML 5. I wasn't aware of it, or how it could replace Flash. I only mentioned other screen readers and Windows, because the reply from Apple said that Adobe had not done anything to make flash accessible to screen readers. This was not a correct statement in respect of

Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility

2013-09-27 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andy, Extensions are not like normal apps. You don't see them in your Downloads folder. To set up Click2Flash to suit your needs, you open Safari preferences and select the Extensions tab. There, you'll find a table of installed extensions, interact with it and select Click2Flash. It

Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility

2013-09-27 Thread Paul Hopewell
Hi Anne, Could you please send your ClicktoFlash short cut recommendations to the list as well? I suspect several of us would be interested in them. Many thanks. Paul Hopewell On 27 Sep 2013, at 21:59, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Andy, Extensions are not like normal

Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility

2013-09-27 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Paul, OK, I'll do that. I need to put them into English as I only have them documented in French at the moment. I'll try to get it done over the weekend. Cheers, Anne On 27 Sep 2013, at 23:08, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote: Hi Anne, Could you please send your

Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility

2013-09-27 Thread Mike Arrigo
Right, they have not done anything to make it accessible on the mac. You might contactthe site and ask if they have any plans to move to html5. That's the way of the future, so if they have no plans for this, they are not keeping up to date with things. Original message: Thanks for the info

Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility

2013-09-27 Thread Andy Collins
Hi Anne - This is very kind of you. I've just had a look at it, and it does seem a bit complicated as I don't quite understand all that it's saying about how it functions etc. Looking forward to receiving your help. Thanks - Andy On 27 Sep 2013, at 21:59, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk

Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility

2013-09-27 Thread meadowlark77
-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 2:07 PM Subject: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility Hi all - In my frustration at not being able to listen to a sports stream, I contacted Apple accessibilty, below is there reply. It doesn't quite add up, as they say

Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility

2013-09-27 Thread meadowlark77
a...@anarchie.org.uk To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 2:40 PM Subject: Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility Hello Andy, Try the Safari extension Click2Flash. It's a bit of a struggle to configure but it really

Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash accessibility

2013-09-27 Thread meadowlark77
We would, indeed. Thanks, Brenda mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net - Original Message - From: Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 4:08 PM Subject: Re: Apple's response to my enquiry about flash