Re: Tabbing to navigate in apps [was Re: Mail problems]

2013-03-30 Thread fred smith
Thanks for your help. I also noticed some strange things happening when I used Control F7. As you say, it sometimes appears to tab you to the next control. Anyway, deleting the preferences file appears to have fixed things. And to answer your question, about VoiceOver reading message content vs. h

Re: Mail problems

2013-03-29 Thread Josh Gregory
Very good, glad that worked. I will keep that in mind for the future. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2013, at 11:55 PM, fred smith wrote: > Many thanks -- I've finally got the Tab working properly again. In the end, > I followed your suggestion and deleted the mail preferences > (library/prefer

Re: Mail problems

2013-03-29 Thread fred smith
Many thanks -- I've finally got the Tab working properly again. In the end, I followed your suggestion and deleted the mail preferences (library/preferences/com.apple.mail.plist), then reopened Mail. It was of course back in the default layout, but it was easy enough to restore my settings and Tab

Re: Mail problems

2013-03-29 Thread Esther
Hi Fred, Is your mail toolbar showing or hidden? One thing you can try if your mail toolbar is showing is to go to the "View" menu of the Mail menu bar and hide it. Then try tabbing. In an earlier post I wrote an explanation about how the exact tab focus behavior (using tab to move focus bet

Re: Mail problems

2013-03-29 Thread Josh Gregory
Very strange, the only other thing I can think of is if you might have a time machine backup of When it did work. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2013, at 5:15 AM, fred smith wrote: > No luck -- I rebuilt the mailboxes but tab still does nothing. Tab still > works as usual in other applications

Re: Mail problems

2013-03-29 Thread fred smith
No luck -- I rebuilt the mailboxes but tab still does nothing. Tab still works as usual in other applications, so the problem appears to be confined to mail. On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Josh Gregory wrote: > Very good let me know, I Would be interested to know how it comes out > > Sent fr

Re: Mail problems

2013-03-28 Thread Josh Gregory
Very good let me know, I Would be interested to know how it comes out Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2013, at 9:58 PM, fred smith wrote: > Thanks -- I'll try that later and let you know how it tuns out. > > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Josh Gregory wrote: > >> Well thanks, :-) I was

Re: Mail problems

2013-03-28 Thread fred smith
Thanks -- I'll try that later and let you know how it tuns out. On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Josh Gregory wrote: > Well thanks, :-) I was just asking in reference to your machine. But it's > okay, :-) I guess my question wasn't exactly phrased clearly. If you have > all the Mail backed up,

Re: Mail problems

2013-03-28 Thread Josh Gregory
Well thanks, :-) I was just asking in reference to your machine. But it's okay, :-) I guess my question wasn't exactly phrased clearly. If you have all the Mail backed up, why not rebuild the database to see if it works? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2013, at 8:11 PM, fred smith wrote: > The

Re: Mail problems

2013-03-28 Thread fred smith
The exact details depend on the application, but Tab can be very handy. For example, it can step you through a dialogue, such as the save dialogue when working in Pages. On a web page, it will take you through the various form controls. And -- until now -- in Mail it will jump between the mailboxes

Tabbing to navigate in apps [was Re: Mail problems]

2013-03-28 Thread Esther
Hello Fred, If your Tab key action has changed, you may have pressed Control-F7. This switches your Tab key action between moving keyboard focus between "Text boxes and lists only" and "All controls". Check whether pressing Control-F7 restores your Tab key to the focus behavior that you expect

Re: Mail problems

2013-03-28 Thread Josh Gregory
Out of curiosity, does the tab key work in other applications? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2013, at 5:29 AM, fred smith wrote: > Using Mail on my MacBook Air, I'm suddenly encountering two problems: > > 1) I can no longer jump use the Tab key to jump between the mailboxes and > the messages

Mail problems

2013-03-28 Thread fred smith
Using Mail on my MacBook Air, I'm suddenly encountering two problems: 1) I can no longer jump use the Tab key to jump between the mailboxes and the messages table. Now, Tab just does nothing. There is a workaround, using VO-J, but Tab is more convenient. I've checked all the setting I can find but