On Aug 29, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
Hi Gordon,
This is something that the Infovox voices do, not Apple's. In fact,
if you switch to a voice by Apple, Alex or others do not interpret
this wrongly. I'm guessing in some places this is another way to
format the dates, and
Hi Travis
I totally and completely agree with you here. The screen-reader's job is to
read the contents of the screen, not to interpret it into something entirely
different. let's see, what does your synthesiser make of the letters IE? Yes,
I typed the letter I then the letter E. If you
You can just edit the dictionary and see if that works. I do that a a lot. for
words the tI know it will mispronounce, like my name lol! and it read the dates
and times correctly in that message btw and Im using the default voices.
On Aug 30, 2011, at 7:42 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
On Aug
Hello Sarah
The point here, even if you can modify the pronunciation dictionaries is that
you shouldn't have too. The screen-reader should read what is present on
screen not what somebody else thinks was meant.
On 30 Aug 2011, at 16:17, Sarah Alawami wrote:
You can just edit the dictionary
Maybe we should go after the true problem, and that is the text to
speech writers. It isn't just apple and apple voices. My windows
voices from ivona and the Kate and Paul voices that come with Kurzweil
1000 do this too.
If there is a generic string that the screen reader can send to the
Collin, you said that your vo said sun for my sun that was in the
list. Mine says sunday. This is what I meant when I said different
voices, and different osx versions will treat the same text differently.
This more than anything is why I want an option to turn this
interpreting stuff off.
Hello Chris
Alex, Fred, Albert etc., are Apple voices. Thus you approach Apple. Would you
not agree?
Gordon
On 30 Aug 2011, at 16:32, Chris G wrote:
Maybe we should go after the true problem, and that is the text to
speech writers. It isn't just apple and apple voices. My windows
voices
Colin
With all due respect, that isn't entirely true. There are some things which
are hard wired into the voice application and you can't change them.
Gordon
On 30 Aug 2011, at 16:33, Red.Falcon wrote:
Hi there!
As I said to Travis [off list] the facility is there for people to add there
Sarah
That's precisely why interpretation should not happen. The screen-reader
should read what's on screen and not what it thinks is meant by something.
Sure, give the user the option to change it if they prefer. But don't force
these abbreviations on us.
Gordon
On 30 Aug 2011, at 17:37,
Acapela and Nuance are not apple voices.
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 19:50:15 +0100
Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
Hello Chris
Alex, Fred, Albert etc., are Apple voices. Thus you approach Apple. Would
you not agree?
Gordon
On 30 Aug 2011, at 16:32, Chris G wrote:
Maybe we
Exactly. I think we should all just interpret how we read thing.s after all is
that not what the sighted person does? and besides, we can get rid of the
things in the dictionary and start afresh. We can bug apple about it but I
really don't thnk ti will work this time around.
Take care all.
Why, when they are commnen anyways. Ok have vo read the abreaction but don't
have it expand. I could have sworn there was a setting for it not to do that
some ware? Iknot thinking and I've used so many operating systems over the
past 20 years that I can't remember.
Take care all.
On Aug 30,
Chris
Did not Gordon give specifics which pertain to Apple voices? He deliberately
dis not mention the Acapella voices. So what was the point of this post? :)
On 30 Aug 2011, at 21:54, Chris G wrote:
Acapela™ and Nuance are not apple voices.
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Hi all
You know, this really is starting to bug me. I'm talking about the way Apple
insists on changing what's written on the screen to dates and things that they
think should be there. How on earth is this a valid date? I say we should
start a campaign to have Apple stop mucking around
Hi Gordon,
This is something that the Infovox voices do, not Apple's. In fact, if you
switch to a voice by Apple, Alex or others do not interpret this wrongly. I'm
guessing in some places this is another way to format the dates, and VoiceOver
does not always govern how information is
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