On Jun 6, 2011, at 16:04, Ashley Aitken wrote:
> Now for international accounts we probably deserve it but are family member
> really expected to buy separate copies of music and apps?
I never wanted to be in a position of rebuying anything, so everything has
always been purchased on a single
Anybody else get a queasy feeling about iCloud?
"iCloud: All your data are belong to us!"
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On 8 juin 2011, at 00:54, Nathan Sims wrote:
> Anybody else get a queasy feeling about iCloud?
>
> "iCloud: All your data are belong to us!"
Sure, but the business model is different.
With Google, your data _is_ the product.
With Apple, your data is a byproduct of the process. And the proc
On Jun 7, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Jean-Christophe Helary
wrote:
>
> On 8 juin 2011, at 00:54, Nathan Sims wrote:
>
>> Anybody else get a queasy feeling about iCloud?
>>
>>"iCloud: All your data are belong to us!"
>
> Sure, but the business model is different.
>
> With Google, your data _is
On 07/06/2011, at 11:27 PM, LuKreme wrote:
> I never wanted to be in a position of rebuying anything, so everything has
> always been purchased on a single account. This has its own share of problems
> with syncing Devices, and pretty much means I have to sync every device
> myself.
Yes, I ag
On Jun 7, 2011, at 11:54, Nathan Sims wrote:
> Anybody else get a queasy feeling about iCloud?
>
> "iCloud: All your data are belong to us!"
Not so far. I will almost certainly pay the $25 a year to out most if my iTunes
collection on it. I have over 200GB of songs, and this will not only
On Jun 7, 2011, at 9:38 AM, LuKreme wrote:
>
> On Jun 7, 2011, at 11:54, Nathan Sims wrote:
>
>> Anybody else get a queasy feeling about iCloud?
>>
>>"iCloud: All your data are belong to us!"
>
> Not so far. I will almost certainly pay the $25 a year to out most if my
> iTunes collection
With the iCloud paradigm, you no longer own your data; you're only
granted access to it, and then only according to their rules. Did I
not drink the right KoolAid or something?
I got upset about this too, but the realized that I don't have to use it
and can still keep my data at home.
I did m
On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Nathan Sims wrote:
>> With the iCloud paradigm, you no longer own your data; you're only granted
>> access to it, and then only according to their rules. Did I not drink the
>> right KoolAid or something?
I believe you misunderstood the keynote.
You really should r
On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:52 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote:
>
> On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Nathan Sims wrote:
>>> With the iCloud paradigm, you no longer own your data; you're only granted
>>> access to it, and then only according to their rules. Did I not drink the
>>> right KoolAid or something?
>
>
The chances that a home DSL or Cable connection can send up data as fast as
their data center can send it down, coupled with ISP bandwidth monthly caps,
and things like outages or power failures make that idea less than ideal for
me. Plus iCloud is free, and for $25 more they will upgrade 25,000
On Jun 7, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Nathan Sims wrote:
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> Okay, to be fair I'll rewatch that portion of it.
>
> But here's where I'm coming from: Shouldn't the real iCloud be where everyone
> has his own? That's the product I was hoping they were going to come out
> with: "My iMac is my iCloud" or s
On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:37, Ashley Aitken wrote:
> Yes, there was mention of 10 devices being used with iCloud, so perhaps they
> will increase the number, but still when everyone in the family has a phone
> or iPod touch and a desktop, laptop or tablet, then even 10 is small.
Now wait a minute,
On Jun 7, 2011, at 15:04, Nathan Sims wrote:
> With the iCloud paradigm, you no longer own your data; you're only granted
> access to it, and then only according to their rules. Did I not drink the
> right KoolAid or something?
What do you base this on? I still have my iTunes library on my comp
On Jun 7, 2011, at 16:14, Nathan Sims wrote:
> That's the product I was hoping they were going to come out with: "My iMac is
> my iCloud" or some such.
That already exists. It's called Back to my Mac and it's been around for
awhile. For most people it is limited in usefulness because they do no
On Jun 7, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Nathan Sims wrote:
> On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:52 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Nathan Sims wrote:
With the iCloud paradigm, you no longer own your data; you're only granted
access to it, and then only according to their rules. Di
On 08/06/2011, at 5:01 AM, LuKreme wrote:
> On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:37, Ashley Aitken wrote:
>
>> Yes, there was mention of 10 devices being used with iCloud, so perhaps they
>> will increase the number, but still when everyone in the family has a phone
>> or iPod touch and a desktop, laptop or
On Jun 7, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Ashley Aitken wrote:
>
> On 08/06/2011, at 5:01 AM, LuKreme wrote:
>
>> On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:37, Ashley Aitken wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, there was mention of 10 devices being used with iCloud, so perhaps
>>> they will increase the number, but still when everyone in the
On Jun 7, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Patrick Coskren wrote:
> On Jun 7, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Nathan Sims wrote:
>
>> But here's where I'm coming from: Shouldn't the real iCloud be where
>> everyone has his own? That's the product I was hoping they were going to
>> come out with: "My iMac is my iCloud" or s
On Jun 7, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Nathan Sims wrote:
> On Jun 7, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Patrick Coskren wrote:
>
>> On Jun 7, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Nathan Sims wrote:
>>
>>> But here's where I'm coming from: Shouldn't the real iCloud be where
>>> everyone has his own? That's the product I was hoping they wer
On Jun 7, 2011, at 3:21 PM, objectwerks inc wrote:
>
> On Jun 7, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Nathan Sims wrote:
>
>> On Jun 7, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Patrick Coskren wrote:
>>
>>> On Jun 7, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Nathan Sims wrote:
>>>
But here's where I'm coming from: Shouldn't the real iCloud be where
On Jun 7, 2011, at 18:08, Nathan Sims wrote:
> Exactly! Look where the graph is taking us: towards NO private data storage,
> no desktops, everything is 'mobile' and all content (especially licensed
> content) resides in the cloud except what's needed locally in cache RAM on
> the device.
I d
Nathan,
Do use iMap mail or are you still using Pop ?
On Jun 7, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Nathan Sims wrote:
> On Jun 7, 2011, at 3:21 PM, objectwerks inc wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Nathan Sims wrote:
>>
>>> On Jun 7, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Patrick Coskren wrote:
>>>
On Jun 7, 2011,
On Jun 7, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Jacob Danilchik wrote:
> Do use iMap mail or are you still using Pop ?
I use IMAP, but copy the emails off to a local mailbox. I've been bitten too
many times in the past by the mail server hiccuping and losing all my mail.
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On Jun 7, 2011, at 5:23 PM, Nathan Sims wrote:
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> On Jun 7, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Jacob Danilchik wrote:
>
>> Do use iMap mail or are you still using Pop ?
>
> I use IMAP, but copy the emails off to a local mailbox. I've been bitten too
> many times in the past by the mail server hiccuping and l
On Jun 7, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Nathan Sims wrote:
> Exactly! Look where the graph is taking us: towards NO private data storage,
> no desktops, everything is 'mobile' and all content (especially licensed
> content) resides in the cloud except what's needed locally in cache RAM on
> the device.
>
On Jun 7, 2011, at 5:23 PM, Nathan Sims wrote:
>
> On Jun 7, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Jacob Danilchik wrote:
>
>> Do use iMap mail or are you still using Pop ?
>
> I use IMAP, but copy the emails off to a local mailbox. I've been bitten too
> many times in the past by the mail server hiccuping and l
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:54, Nathan Sims
wrote:
> Anybody else get a queasy feeling about iCloud?
The iCloud queasiness for me stems from the recent "controversy" over
DropBox having access to your data. What will Apple's access be? Did
they design iCloud with client side encryption that protect
On 8 juin 2011, at 11:34, Arno Hautala wrote:
> I also wonder how they're pulling off iTunes Match. Is it a tag editor
> away from downloading any track at will? Or is there some sort of
> acoustic hash that protects against this "attack"? Even if there is a
> hash, how soon will we see a DropShi
On Jun 7, 2011, at 23:16, Jean-Christophe Helary
wrote:
> Like, there are economical and physical limitations to the number of CDs a
> normal human being is capable of owning...
I WI set what those might be. I know two people who are not in the music
industry that own more than 10,000 CDs. On
On Jun 7, 2011, at 5:39 PM, Nathan Sims wrote:
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> Looks to me like the writing's on the wall. I don't think it'll be very long
> before content from the iTunes store is streamed, not downloaded, i.e. you
> can enjoy but not own it. The rest is all downhill from there.
If Apple wanted to do s
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