Re: signed software :: installer -- system software and package installer tool (Apple *.pkg)

2010-10-26 Thread Sven Aluoor
Now let's answer the original poster's question :-) ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/listinfo/macosx-talk

Re: signed software :: installer -- system software and package installer tool (Apple *.pkg)

2010-10-25 Thread Cesar Alsina
On Oct 25, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Macs R We wrote: On Oct 25, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Cesar Alsina wrote: On Oct 24, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Macs R We wrote: On Oct 24, 2010, at 1:30 PM, Scott Lewis wrote: iWork has a free trial available. iLife is purchase and ship only. I got gulled. There are severa

Re: signed software :: installer -- system software and package installer tool (Apple *.pkg)

2010-10-25 Thread Macs R We
On Oct 25, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Cesar Alsina wrote: > On Oct 24, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Macs R We wrote: > >> On Oct 24, 2010, at 1:30 PM, Scott Lewis wrote: >> >>> iWork has a free trial available. iLife is purchase and ship only. >> >> I got gulled. There are several credible-looking websites (e.g.

Re: signed software :: installer -- system software and package installer tool (Apple *.pkg)

2010-10-25 Thread Cesar Alsina
On Oct 24, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Macs R We wrote: On Oct 24, 2010, at 1:30 PM, Scott Lewis wrote: iWork has a free trial available. iLife is purchase and ship only. I got gulled. There are several credible-looking websites (e.g., softpedia) offering the free trial, downloaded directly from Ap

Re: signed software :: installer -- system software and package installer tool (Apple *.pkg)

2010-10-25 Thread Charles Dyer
On 25 Oct 2010, at 11:18:31, Sven Aluoor wrote: > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Scott G. Lewis > wrote: >> Secondly, I will avoid some web >> sites because their ads are obnoxious, but I don't block ads as a general >> rule. If the other choices are things like "the app goes away" or "you ha

Re: signed software :: installer -- system software and package installer tool (Apple *.pkg)

2010-10-25 Thread Scott G. Lewis
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Sven Aluoor wrote: > Well, for starters, ads are a security risk and a privacy violation. > To each their own. Security is not just avoiding risk, it's mitigating it. I do the latter. If everyone bypassed ads, do you really think most of what you visit daily wou

Re: signed software :: installer -- system software and package installer tool (Apple *.pkg)

2010-10-25 Thread Sven Aluoor
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Scott G. Lewis wrote: > Secondly, I will avoid some web > sites because their ads are obnoxious, but I don't block ads as a general > rule. If the other choices are things like "the app goes away" or "you have > to pay for the app", viewing a few ads seems fair. W

Re: signed software :: installer -- system software and package installer tool (Apple *.pkg)

2010-10-25 Thread Scott G. Lewis
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Sven Aluoor wrote: > I recommend you the Open Source GlimmerBlocker > (http://glimmerblocker.org/) which works as local ad filtering proxy. > No ads in all Mac applications ;-) Well, for starters, I was specifically looking for the ads, as I was counting them i

Re: signed software :: installer -- system software and package installer tool (Apple *.pkg)

2010-10-25 Thread Sven Aluoor
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Scott G. Lewis wrote: > ADS ADS ADS. I counted 8, 4 on each page. So even if you Google in directly > to the iLife 2011 page, and only click one more page (download), you've > given them 8 ad impressions. I recommend you the Open Source GlimmerBlocker (http://glim

Re: signed software :: installer -- system software and package installer tool (Apple *.pkg)

2010-10-25 Thread Scott G. Lewis
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Macs R We wrote: I got gulled. There are several credible-looking websites (e.g., softpedia) > offering the free trial, downloaded directly from Apple. But when you click > on the final download button, you finally get to "woops, there's actually no > free trial

Re: signed software :: installer -- system software and package installer tool (Apple *.pkg)

2010-10-25 Thread Scott G. Lewis
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Karl Kuehn wrote: >Just the note of total conservatism here: the family packs (at least > before this) have always been for people living in one house. So your (not > quite) brother-in-law's copy would not apply to you (presumably). Just > putting that out

Re: signed software :: installer -- system software and package installer tool (Apple *.pkg)

2010-10-25 Thread Sven Aluoor
Hi folks all solutions in this thread are workarounds. I am interested what exactly the digital signature of the installer.app is. Does this means everything what will be installed through the installer is signed by Apple? If you modify the installation contents, will be the signature invalid? c

Re: signed software :: installer -- system software and package installer tool (Apple *.pkg)

2010-10-24 Thread Macs R We
On Oct 24, 2010, at 1:30 PM, Scott Lewis wrote: > iWork has a free trial available. iLife is purchase and ship only. I got gulled. There are several credible-looking websites (e.g., softpedia) offering the free trial, downloaded directly from Apple. But when you click on the final download b

Re: signed software :: installer -- system software and package installer tool (Apple *.pkg)

2010-10-24 Thread Karl Kuehn
On Oct 24, 2010, at 1:30 PM, Scott Lewis wrote: > iWork has a free trial available. iLife is purchase and ship only. > > When in doubt, I wouldn't bother. It's $50 and if there's a question of > trust, I saw don't trust and buy a copy. > > Or spend $75 and get a family iLife pack and send a cop

Re: signed software :: installer -- system software and package installer tool (Apple *.pkg)

2010-10-24 Thread Scott Lewis
iWork has a free trial available. iLife is purchase and ship only. When in doubt, I wouldn't bother. It's $50 and if there's a question of trust, I saw don't trust and buy a copy. Or spend $75 and get a family iLife pack and send a copy to this brother, who seems to have dabbled in piracy before?

Re: signed software :: installer -- system software and package installer tool (Apple *.pkg)

2010-10-24 Thread Macs R We
On Oct 24, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Sven Aluoor wrote: > This goes now really off-topic and personal. My girlfriend is a Latina > (iLife is multi-language and uses the language from computer). She > received iLife 11 from her younger brother, that's why I don't trust > this. We all don't know if the you

Re: signed software :: installer -- system software and package installer tool (Apple *.pkg)

2010-10-24 Thread Sven Aluoor
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:43 PM, objectwerks inc wrote: > Well, someone in Germany (I believe you've mentioned that before) having an > Apple installer package for iLife using Spanish or portuguese or similar > asking if it is a valid package and safe to install and has had nothing added > to

Re: signed software :: installer -- system software and package installer tool (Apple *.pkg)

2010-10-23 Thread objectwerks inc
On Oct 23, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Sven Aluoor wrote: > On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:32 PM, objectwerks inc wrote: >> is this pirated SW? > > No. Why do you think so? Well, someone in Germany (I believe you've mentioned that before) having an Apple installer package for iLife using Spanish or portugue

Re: signed software :: installer -- system software and package installer tool (Apple *.pkg)

2010-10-23 Thread Sven Aluoor
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:32 PM, objectwerks inc wrote: > is this pirated SW? No. Why do you think so? I am generally interested in security stuff. cheers Sven ___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnigroup.com http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/list

Re: signed software :: installer -- system software and package installer tool (Apple *.pkg)

2010-10-23 Thread objectwerks inc
is this pirated SW? On Oct 23, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Sven Aluoor wrote: > Hi folks > > Does anybody know a few details about signed software and > /Applications/Utilities/Installer.app? I didn't find more at Wikipedia > (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Installer_%28Mac_OS_X%29) > and

signed software :: installer -- system software and package installer tool (Apple *.pkg)

2010-10-23 Thread Sven Aluoor
Hi folks Does anybody know a few details about signed software and /Applications/Utilities/Installer.app? I didn't find more at Wikipedia (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Installer_%28Mac_OS_X%29) and the UNIX-Manual (man 8 installer). I have here a valid signature from iLife 11 In