Re: The opendarwin .com debacle

2009-10-22 Thread Adam Mercer
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 00:48, Scott Haneda wrote: > Adding more... > http://freebsdgirl.com/2006/11/i-love-california.html > Clear evidence of confusion only a few years back. > > It's pretty simple to see the circles he travels in.  I say give him one > last chance to do the right thing, at whic

Re: The opendarwin .com debacle

2009-10-22 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Ultimately, I don't think anyone is going to be able to "force" the darwinports.com folks from doing what they're doing (and I really wish the original poster had managed to keep the notion of opendarwin / darwinports separate in his head, since they're really not related issues, yet there'

Re: The opendarwin .com debacle

2009-10-22 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
The real problem here is one of branding. Why/where are users even hearing the name "darwinports" when it's been essentially dead for over 3 years? Projects rename themselves all the time and somehow manage to make the name change stick. What this project needs to ask itself is why the n

Re: The opendarwin .com debacle

2009-10-22 Thread Mark Hattam
On 22 Oct 2009, at 18:54, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: Ultimately, I don't think anyone is going to be able to "force" the darwinports.com folks from doing what they're doing (and I really wish the original poster had managed to keep the notion of opendarwin / darwinports separate in his head,

Re: The opendarwin .com debacle

2009-10-22 Thread James Berry
So all of this comes down to page rank for our site vs that "other" site. I've got to believe we have better incoming links to our site, so if we better structured our site to do cross linking between categories (and perhaps stoop to the subdomain tricks he does), we could presumably impr

Re: The opendarwin .com debacle

2009-10-22 Thread James Kyle
Given the guy is unscrupulous, there's no telling what kind of current version of google bombing he might be using to boost his rankings. Are there any legal issues involved with just claiming authority on the domain on my dns servers and redirecting to a page that informs the user of its l

Disabling link with already installed libraries

2009-10-22 Thread vincent habchi
From #22200 : thought it was worth noting that there is an additional problem. no_atlas variant has no effect if the atlas package is installed - numpy is linked against atlas regardless. This seemed to me a different issue than the above, hence the two different tickets. That's something

Re: The opendarwin .com debacle

2009-10-22 Thread Scott Haneda
Hi Jordan. Correct, I made a mistake on the subject of the email, one I certainly know better. I addressed this in a previous email, and it indeed is something I regret, as it only muddies this situation. While I do not want to take the liberty, if everyone sees fit, hijack the subject,

Re: [59800] trunk/dports/math/atlas/Portfile

2009-10-22 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Oct 22, 2009, at 15:05, jamesk...@macports.org wrote: Revision: 59800 http://trac.macports.org/changeset/59800 Author: jamesk...@macports.org Date: 2009-10-22 13:05:20 -0700 (Thu, 22 Oct 2009) Log Message: --- Re-enabled the universal variant then override it with a wa

Re: The opendarwin .com debacle

2009-10-22 Thread Scott Haneda
On Oct 22, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Mark Hattam wrote: Go to Google ... enter something like ... mysql5 port macosx 1. mysql.com 2. out of date way to get php5, mysql5, apache2 using MacPorts ... what's gawk & nawk ??? 3. the "unwanted" site ... 8. again the "unwanted" site, with a sublist of lots

Re: [59801] trunk/base/src/port1.0/portutil.tcl

2009-10-22 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Oct 22, 2009, at 15:26, j...@macports.org wrote: Revision: 59801 http://trac.macports.org/changeset/59801 Author: j...@macports.org Date: 2009-10-22 13:26:56 -0700 (Thu, 22 Oct 2009) Log Message: --- warn when using +universal on ports with no universal variant (can

Re: [59792] trunk/dports/science/gromacs

2009-10-22 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Oct 22, 2009, at 08:15, adfernan...@macports.org wrote: Revision: 59792 http://trac.macports.org/changeset/59792 Author: adfernan...@macports.org Date: 2009-10-22 06:15:33 -0700 (Thu, 22 Oct 2009) Log Message: --- gromacs: add gcc44 variant and add patch two known forc

Re: The opendarwin .com debacle

2009-10-22 Thread Scott Haneda
On Oct 22, 2009, at 11:37 AM, James Berry wrote: So all of this comes down to page rank for our site vs that "other" site. Correct. And if you look at the rankings of the sites that link to him, you will see, they have stronger rankings than those that link in to Mac Ports. I've got t

Re: The opendarwin .com debacle

2009-10-22 Thread Scott Haneda
On Oct 22, 2009, at 12:09 PM, James Kyle wrote: Given the guy is unscrupulous, there's no telling what kind of current version of google bombing he might be using to boost his rankings. I do not think much, I think he is riding the train of strong rankings from years ago, and no other sit

Re: Disabling link with already installed libraries

2009-10-22 Thread Bryan Blackburn
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:05:19PM +0200, vincent habchi said: > From #22200 : > > >thought it was worth noting that there is an additional problem. > >no_atlas > >variant has no effect if the atlas package is installed - numpy is > >linked > >against atlas regardless. This seemed to me a differen

Re: Disabling link with already installed libraries

2009-10-22 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Oct 22, 2009, at 15:05, vincent habchi wrote: That's something I experienced also with other ports, notably when they are using Cmake. They find libraries in ${prefix}, wherever the user has enabled or disabled the corresponding option. That sounds like a pretty bad bug, in either cmake

Re: The opendarwin .com debacle

2009-10-22 Thread Jordan K . Hubbard
Maybe it's about putting up the appropriate keywords/tag data for google to find then? Someone here must know the magic to get MacPorts indexed ahead of dp.com... On Oct 22, 2009, at 10:58 AM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote: >> The real problem here is one of branding. Why/where are users even hearing

Re: The opendarwin .com debacle

2009-10-22 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Oct 22, 2009, at 18:17, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: Maybe it's about putting up the appropriate keywords/tag data for google to find then? Someone here must know the magic to get MacPorts indexed ahead of dp.com... Yes. We need to improve our pagerank. Scott had several suggestions. I i