Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-18 Thread Anders F Björklund
Yves de Champlain wrote: >> So >> as long as those other platforms provide necessary requirements, I >> think they should be allowed still... > > They sure might provide theses requirements, but for how long ? Is > it worth it when you will have to force rebuild every single port > because Le

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-18 Thread Yves de Champlain
Le 08-02-18 à 07:52, Anders F Björklund a écrit : > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > >>> The project doesn't seem to have decided yet whether it wants to >>> provide the best possible Mac OS X experience, or whether it wants >>> to e.g. provide its own bootstrap versions of all the required >>> system

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-18 Thread Anders F Björklund
Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> The project doesn't seem to have decided yet whether it wants to >> provide the best possible Mac OS X experience, or whether it wants >> to e.g. provide its own bootstrap versions of all the required >> system libraries and binaries ? > > The two are not mutually

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-17 Thread Esteban Barahona
El feb 17, 2551 BE, a las 21:49, Jordan K. Hubbard escribió: > > On Feb 17, 2008, at 7:40 PM, Esteban Barahona wrote: > >> That may be the main objective, but why not also support darwin >> without the propietary parts of Mac OS X? As I understand it, if it >> runs on Darwin it must run on Mac

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-17 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
On Feb 17, 2008, at 7:40 PM, Esteban Barahona wrote: > That may be the main objective, but why not also support darwin > without the propietary parts of Mac OS X? As I understand it, if it > runs on Darwin it must run on Mac OS X... but I guess it's CLI-only > apps... Because it's more w

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-17 Thread Esteban Barahona
El feb 17, 2551 BE, a las 15:01, Jordan K. Hubbard escribió: > This topic was, in any case, hashed out rather thoroughly back when > the project changed its name from DarwinPorts to MacPorts. GIven > the plethora of projects already devoted to multi-platform ports > collections (portage, p

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-17 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
On Feb 17, 2008, at 2:42 PM, Anders F Björklund wrote: > The project doesn't seem to have decided yet whether it wants to > provide the best possible Mac OS X experience, or whether it wants > to e.g. provide its own bootstrap versions of all the required > system libraries and binaries ?

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-17 Thread Anders F Björklund
Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > This topic was, in any case, hashed out rather thoroughly back when > the project changed its name from DarwinPorts to MacPorts. GIven > the plethora of projects already devoted to multi-platform ports > collections (portage, pkgsrc, etc) and the relative shortag

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-17 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Given that they haven't posted any updates to their site in over a year, it's probably fair to say that it's mostly just a domain name at this point. This topic was, in any case, hashed out rather thoroughly back when the project changed its name from DarwinPorts to MacPorts. GIven the

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-17 Thread Charlse Darwin
This might be (or is) off the topic, but is there any way to boot into console (or ``>console'' if you like) without loading anything related to Aqua, Carbon, Cocoa or any GUI related part of the OS X? On Feb 17, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > I don't see any point in supporting

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-17 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
I don't see any point in supporting Pure Darwin for any reason at this point. You're talking about an installed base of what - 20 people? 50? 100 tops? I can think of more Amiga Unix users than that. - Jordan On Feb 17, 2008, at 12:25 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > On Feb 17, 2008, at 01:40,

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-17 Thread Michael Franz
It is very new. I don't have any details on it. http://www.puredarwin.org/ On Feb 17, 2008 1:00 PM, Esteban Barahona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > El feb 17, 2551 BE, a las 07:34, Michael Franz escribió: > > > I may have misspoke, I am using just darwin, I forgot that there is > > a puredarwin p

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-17 Thread Esteban Barahona
El feb 17, 2551 BE, a las 07:34, Michael Franz escribió: > I may have misspoke, I am using just darwin, I forgot that there is > a puredarwin project. That is not what I am using. There is a puredarwin project?! what's the difference with darwin? ...I thought there was only OpenDarwin and a

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-17 Thread Anders F Björklund
Michael Franz wrote: > There are even three: "darwin", a superset of "macosx" and > "puredarwin" > > Darwin does not automatically include e.g. Carbon and Cocoa > frameworks. > So technically those ports are wrong, or at least making > assumptions... > I may have misspoke, I am using just da

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-17 Thread Michael Franz
I remember having built Kaffe on Darwin 7.2.1. Darwin 8 should work too. > > Kaffe 1.1.7 does, but 1.1.8 does not. Or, Kaffe 1.1.8 does not build on OS X. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/m

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-17 Thread Yves de Champlain
Le 08-02-17 à 08:29, Michael Franz a écrit : That is OK, as long as the ports I am interested in will work. At this point it is only Kaffe and anything Kaffe depends on. On Feb 17, 2008 2:40 AM, Yves de Champlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Le 08-02-16 à 22:26, Michael Franz a écrit : > I

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-17 Thread Michael Franz
On Feb 17, 2008 4:06 AM, Anders F Björklund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > >> and BTW many ports will also fail because they just suppose darwin to > >> be mac os x > > > > We still have separate "macosx" and "darwin" platforms don't we? > > There are even three: "darwin", a

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-17 Thread Michael Franz
That is OK, as long as the ports I am interested in will work. At this point it is only Kaffe and anything Kaffe depends on. On Feb 17, 2008 2:40 AM, Yves de Champlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Le 08-02-16 à 22:26, Michael Franz a écrit : > > > I was able to install darwinports 1.3.2, but t

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-17 Thread Anders F Björklund
Ryan Schmidt wrote: >> and BTW many ports will also fail because they just suppose darwin to >> be mac os x > > We still have separate "macosx" and "darwin" platforms don't we? There are even three: "darwin", a superset of "macosx" and "puredarwin" Darwin does not automatically include e.g. Carb

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-17 Thread Anders F Björklund
Yves de Champlain wrote: >> Is there a version of Macports that can be installed on a darwin >> installation? I installed the Darwin 8 iso and can not get >> Macports to configure since GNUStep is missing. > > You can install an older version of macports, install gnustep and > then update m

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-17 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 17, 2008, at 01:40, Yves de Champlain wrote: > Le 08-02-16 à 22:26, Michael Franz a écrit : > >> I was able to install darwinports 1.3.2, but the port files have >> properties/commands that this old version does not understand. >> >> The problem with building the latest version (This starte

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-16 Thread Yves de Champlain
Le 08-02-16 à 22:26, Michael Franz a écrit : > I was able to install darwinports 1.3.2, but the port files have > properties/commands that this old version does not understand. > > The problem with building the latest version (This started with > Macports 1.5) is that Core Foundation is requi

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-16 Thread Yves de Champlain
Le 08-02-16 à 22:26, Michael Franz a écrit : > I was able to install darwinports 1.3.2, but the port files have > properties/commands that this old version does not understand. > > The problem with building the latest version (This started with > Macports 1.5) is that Core Foundation is requi

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-16 Thread Michael Franz
I was able to install darwinports 1.3.2, but the port files have properties/commands that this old version does not understand. The problem with building the latest version (This started with Macports 1.5) is that Core Foundation is required. I would have thought that darwin 8 had core foundation

Re: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-14 Thread Michael Franz
I will give it a try. I downloaded Darwinports 1.3.2. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Yves de Champlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Le 08-02-13 à 07:47, Michael Franz a écrit : > > > Is there a version of Macports that can be installed on a darwin > > installation? I installed the Darwin 8

Fwd: Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-14 Thread Yves de Champlain
Le 08-02-13 à 07:47, Michael Franz a écrit : Is there a version of Macports that can be installed on a darwin installation? I installed the Darwin 8 iso and can not get Macports to configure since GNUStep is missing. You can install an older version of macports, install gnustep and then

Macports On Pure Darwin

2008-02-13 Thread Michael Franz
Is there a version of Macports that can be installed on a darwin installation? I installed the Darwin 8 iso and can not get Macports to configure since GNUStep is missing. Michael ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http:/