To all software developers, anyone know of a good development software for the Mac?

2010-04-11 Thread Jess
I'm going to take an introduction to computer programming and logic this summer, and the instructor knows I am blind and that I use voice over on the Mac. HE also is a MAc user, and he will be teaching the class this summer. He told me that the class would be using Alice, but I've looked at that

Re: IPhone 4, and IAds

2010-04-11 Thread Neil James
Why all the hostility on your part? Telling some one else on list that they have to grow up just because they expressed their opinion shows a lack of maturity on your behalf as well. Neil - Original Message - From: "Charlie Doremus" To: Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 4:50 PM Subject

Re: To all software developers, anyone know of a good development software for the Mac?

2010-04-11 Thread Philippe Brun
Hello Jess, I think xCode with InterfaceBuilder is not accessible with VO. If you want to learn programming without graphical interface, you can use a lot of langages. The applications will run in the terminal. If you want to learn simple langage with graphical interface, you can learn AppleScri

Re: transfering documents through iTunes?

2010-04-11 Thread Charlie Doremus
Why would you put notes in iTunes? All my notes go to a folder In my .me email account. Sent from my iPad On Apr 10, 2010, at 8:46 PM, "Joe Plummer" wrote: > You suppose to be able to use notes on your iphone and sync them. I don't > remember right where in iTunes but notes are in there and al

Re: IPhone 4, and IAds

2010-04-11 Thread Jess
Neil, thanks for coming to my defense. Appreciate it, buddy. I did not appreciate being told to grow up on list, just for voicing my opinion, and it's rather nice to know that my opinion has somevalidity and that I'm not totally off the wall for not wanting ads. On Apr 11, 2010, at 4:17 AM, Nei

Re: transfering documents through iTunes?

2010-04-11 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hello, I guess your talking about mobile me? Well, the short answer is a lot of people don't want to pay $100 just for the luxury of transferring small notes and reminders to their computers. Especially if there is a way to do it for free. On Apr 11, 2010, at 4:27 AM, Charlie Doremus wrote:

Re: transfering documents through iTunes?

2010-04-11 Thread Charlie Doremus
Good point, sometimes I stand in the forest and don't see the trees. this was one of those times. Sent from my iPad On Apr 10, 2010, at 11:42 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hello, > > I guess your talking about mobile me? Well, the short answer is a lot of > people don't want to pay $100 just

Re: To all software developers, anyone know of a good development software for the Mac?

2010-04-11 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Morning Jess, When you say you are taking a class in software development and logic, what exactly will it be focussing on? I teach some of this stuff so feel free to contact me off-list. Dónal On 11 Apr 2010, at 09:00, Jess wrote: > I'm going to take an introduction to computer programming an

extra voices

2010-04-11 Thread chad baker
Hi where can i get extra voices? Is there any trials out there or no? Not sure if cepstral has demos that's the only one i know of. thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@goog

Re: extra voices

2010-04-11 Thread william lomas
yu can get infovox www.assitiveware.com On 11 Apr 2010, at 11:58, chad baker wrote: > Hi where can i get extra voices? > Is there any trials out there or no? > Not sure if cepstral has demos that's the only one i know of. > thanks > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to

help with scanning in abby finereader

2010-04-11 Thread Matthew Campbell
Hello list. I'm wondering ow to get documents in to finereader for it to process. My scanner doesn't show up in the list of sources so how do I scan and then process the documents? My scanner is a canoscan lide25 and has a very outdated twane driver which is scangear starter 1.1e. Thanks for any

Re: help with scanning in abby finereader

2010-04-11 Thread Jim Gatteys
Hi Matthew! If your scanner shows up on the mac you can use image capture to scan the document, save it, then have Abbyy fineReader Recognize the file. It will ask you "get image from: and file is an option there--or at least on the version I had. I had an automater workflow at one time that

Re: extra voices

2010-04-11 Thread Slau Halatyn
InfoVox would probably be the best choice. I like the Cepstral voices as well but they appear not to work too well with VoiceOver, at least for me. From what I understand, AT&T has a package of voices that are supposed to be quite good but they're well over $300. Go with InfoVox. They have a 30-

Re: transfering documents through iTunes?

2010-04-11 Thread olivia norman
I have a me.com account as well, I'm actually talking about things like text files, not the notes feature. I actually do find my mobile me account useful with the iPad, the macs and the iPhone, it's great to sync contacts, etc, quickly and easily. I need to play with iDisk and see how accessi

Re: NLS DTB players, usb flash drives, formating on a mac, cartrage errors Help?

2010-04-11 Thread Jenny Kennedy(Howard)
Good morning everyone, Thanks for the suggestion of the kingston data traveler I plan to obtain one as soon as I am able. What size is best? Also why will the two flash drives I currently have format and work fine in the dtb player if they are formated on a windows computer but give me cartrage

Window switching shortcuts with VoiceOver on the Mac [was Re: Something interesting I found in safari possibly works in other apps]

2010-04-11 Thread Esther
Hi Jessica, The shortcut sequence you posted of Command+Accent to cycle through open windows in applications with VoiceOver on the Mac works for all applications, including the Terminal, but since this was posted to the viphone list instead of macvisionaries, of which you're also a member,

Re: help with scanning in abby finereader

2010-04-11 Thread William Windels
Hi Jim, I have also bought abby finereader but I am still waiting for me scanner : canon 700f lied... I have no experiences so far with scanning on mac osx with abby fine reader... As I understand well, you have a automator script that looks for the scanned image and start to och that? If you

Re: extra voices

2010-04-11 Thread Mary Otten
Wow! $300 for voices from AT&T> Has anybody heard them? How many are there for that price? Are they multiple languages? I've never seen reference to anything like that in hunting for voices. I'm always on the look out for quality voices inespecially in Russian. mary -- You received this mes

Re: NLS DTB players, usb flash drives, formating on a mac, cartrage errors Help?

2010-04-11 Thread Jessica and Trish the Golden Dog
hey. the datatraveler. I have a 4 gig one. and with average material you can get 40 plus books/magazines on it. With smaller books you will get more books on it and with larger books less. For me the 4 gig is great. For others who want more space they may want an 8 gig. I cannot answer the forma

Re: extra voices

2010-04-11 Thread Slau Halatyn
Well, it's a bit unusual. You see, they don't actually sell the voices, per se. They do, however, offer a software developers' toolkit for that price and that includes all of the voices. I think there are something like 27 voices, if I remember correctly. The idea is, if you were to develop soft

Re: extra voices

2010-04-11 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi, The Cepstral voices are not stable at all. Though they are listed as compatible, they crash a lot, and are extremely sluggish. I personally don't think they are that good or clear, but then, I am picky. When it comes to AT&T, I have not yet purchased them. Though, just from what I can tell

Re: help with scanning in abby finereader

2010-04-11 Thread Jim Gatteys
Hi William! I'm not sure if I still have the workflow. I'll check. Its not readily available but might have backed it up. Not using abbyy at the moment. When you use abbyy it asks you for a file to recognize and I just had the workflow save the image as a certain file name and then have abby

RE: transfering documents through iTunes?

2010-04-11 Thread Joe Plummer
Well I presume you are talking about a mobile me account. I not going to pay 100 bucks a year for syncing notes. Now it might be different if I was doing a whole spread sheet or sheets. Sign, Joe Plummer ( JP ) joeplum...@tds.net -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.co

iPhone Recording Apps for Voice and Music [was Re: Voice Memos App]

2010-04-11 Thread Esther
Hi Karen, I'll interleave answers after your questions. All instances that refer to "double tap" can also use a split tap (where you touch a button or field on the iPhone with one finger and tap with another finger elsewhere on the screen). Alternatively, you could try the Voxie Pro Reco

Re: NLS DTB players, usb flash drives, formating on a mac, cartrage errors Help?

2010-04-11 Thread Randy Stegall
Do you empty the trash before ejecting the drive? Randy On Apr 11, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Jenny Kennedy(Howard) wrote: > Good morning everyone, > > Thanks for the suggestion of the kingston data traveler I plan to > obtain one as soon as I am able. What size is best? Also why will > the two flash

Re: NLS DTB players, usb flash drives, formating on a mac, cartrage errors Help?

2010-04-11 Thread Jessica and Trish the Golden Dog
Um. the mac trash? NOpe. will that solve it? Because I really do hate reformatting this drive every time I want to put something knew on it. Jessica -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You recei

Re: NLS DTB players, usb flash drives, formating on a mac, cartrage errors Help?

2010-04-11 Thread Randy Stegall
Try it and see. It can't hurt. Randy On Apr 11, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Jessica and Trish the Golden Dog wrote: > Um. the mac trash? NOpe. will that solve it? > Because I really do hate reformatting this drive every time I want to put > something knew on it. > Jessica > > -- > Email services provid

Re: NLS DTB players, usb flash drives, formating on a mac, cartrage errors Help?

2010-04-11 Thread Jessica and Trish the Golden Dog
I will. and if it does work that is an odd way of dealing with things. But hey if it is the answer thanks so much for telling us. Jessica -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this mes

Saving services in Automator

2010-04-11 Thread James & Nash
Hi gang, Does anyone know where Automator saves services please? Thanks TC James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from t

Furtherto - saving automator work flows as services

2010-04-11 Thread James & Nash
Hi gang, I've found where the services are saved. Thanks TC James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send

Re: extra voices

2010-04-11 Thread Mary Otten
Thanks for the clarification about the AT&T voices. too rich for my bloodd, as they say. But it'd be cool if those voices could be made available separate from the sdk somehow, to work with VO and offer an alternative to the Infovox ones. mary -- You received this message because you are subs

Re: NLS DTB players, usb flash drives, formating on a mac, cartrage errors Help?

2010-04-11 Thread Randy Stegall
On the mac you can't just delete items from a removable drive and expect them to disappear. They are still in the trash on the drive in question. I do this all the time with my cartridge and it works just fine. Hth. Randy On Apr 11, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Jessica and Trish the Golden Dog wrote: >

Re: extra voices

2010-04-11 Thread Slau Halatyn
Yep, as I said earlier, the InfoVox voices are probably the best bet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisio

Re: NLS DTB players, usb flash drives, formating on a mac, cartrage errors Help?

2010-04-11 Thread Joan Alice Maria Gibson, Esquire
Before I tried downloading an NLSdtb, The Tech person at the Talking Book Library [phoenix, Arizona] told me first how to upgrade the thumb drive [he recommends only using no more than a 2 gigabyte as it can take a 4 gigabyte max but the dtbm has to work much harder to mount it; and, he said not to

Re: NLS DTB players, usb flash drives, formating on a mac, cartrage errors Help?

2010-04-11 Thread Jenny Kennedy(Howard)
It works!!! Thankfully I didn't reformat my 2GB drive and was able to mount it and empty the trash. So I have one thumb drive that works. Our library said the same thing, the smaller gb the better chance it has of working. It had never even crossed my mind to empty the trash but it is good to kn

multi select list boxes in safari

2010-04-11 Thread Donal Fitzpatrick
Hi all, I've come across a webpage which has raised an interesting issue for me. Is there a way to use multi-select list boxes using VO and Safari? For those who haven't come across these, they are a form of UI element in which the user can select either a contiguous group of elements or indee

Safari won't let me go to Ebay?

2010-04-11 Thread Kimberly thurman
I'm having a puzzling problem folks. I get an error when I try to go to Ebay. This happens whether I type in the URL myself or I use the choice in the bookmarks menu. I'm scratching my head on this one. (Smilie!) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

infovox voices

2010-04-11 Thread chad baker
Hi i'm trying a trial of infovox but can't find the voices under speech in the voice over utility. Is there anything else i need to do? thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...

Re: Safari won't let me go to Ebay?

2010-04-11 Thread Cody
Yes, I've had the same issue as well. the fix is to do a google search for an ebay page and go to it that way justnot the home page. - Original Message - From: "Kimberly thurman" To: Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 6:03 PM Subject: Safari won't let me go to Ebay? I'm having a puzzling

Re: infovox voices

2010-04-11 Thread Cody
Where can these voices be gotten? I've tried to find them and couldn't for mac...only for windows - Original Message - From: "chad baker" To: Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 5:58 PM Subject: infovox voices Hi i'm trying a trial of infovox but can't find the voices under speech in the v

re-infovox voices

2010-04-11 Thread chad baker
Hi codi go to assistiveware.com. That's where i downloaded it. It will let you try it for 30 days. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this g

Re: Safari won't let me go to Ebay?

2010-04-11 Thread Sarah Alawami
what error are you getting? Take care. On 4/11/2010 3:03 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: I'm having a puzzling problem folks. I get an error when I try to go to Ebay. This happens whether I type in the URL myself or I use the choice in the bookmarks menu. I'm scratching my head on this one. (

Re: NLS DTB players, usb flash drives, formating on a mac, cartrage errors Help?

2010-04-11 Thread Kimberly thurman
Ah ha! I wondered why the file disappeared but there was no more space created on the drive. On Apr 11, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Randy Stegall wrote: > On the mac you can't just delete items from a removable drive and expect them > to disappear. They are still in the trash on the drive in question

Re: infovox voices

2010-04-11 Thread Esther
Hi Cody, Try the Assistiveware Infovox/iVox voice samples page at: http://www.assistiveware.com/ivoxsamples.php There's a link to download the trial demos on that page. Cheers, Esther Cody wrote: Where can these voices be gotten? I've tried to find them and couldn't for mac...only for wind

RE: NLS DTB players, usb flash drives, formating on a mac, cartrage errors Help?

2010-04-11 Thread M. Taylor
I am intreagued with this thread! I have one question, what size flash drive does the advanced digital player accept? I had no idea that one could insert a flash drive into the cartridge area. Both my Mac and I thank you for the information. Mark Get to know yourself as you get to know

Re: Safari won't let me go to Ebay?

2010-04-11 Thread Kimberly thurman
Very strange. I wonder what is up with that? On Apr 11, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Cody wrote: > Yes, I've had the same issue as well. > > the fix is to do a google search for an ebay page and go to it that way > justnot the home page. > - Original Message - From: "Kimberly thurman" > > To: >

Re: NLS DTB players, usb flash drives, formating on a mac, cartrage errors Help?

2010-04-11 Thread Jessica and Trish the Golden Dog
Well as some people said the library people said no more than 4 gigs. I think you can do more than that. But I would not go up to 8 gigs of content. Besides who wants to arrow left and right through a hundred plus books? To bring up the book list you press and hold down the play key till it says

Re: Safari won't let me go to Ebay?

2010-04-11 Thread Sarah Alawami
That's an odd fix. have you contacted apple through the safary page and submitted a bug through the bug reporter from with in safary? Take care. On 4/11/2010 4:03 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: Very strange. I wonder what is up with that? On Apr 11, 2010, at 6:06 PM, Cody wrote: Yes, I've

Re: Safari won't let me go to Ebay?

2010-04-11 Thread Cody
No, I haven't. I suspect it'll be fixed soon, it does't seem to be a huge issue at this point. - Original Message - From: "Sarah Alawami" To: Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:07 PM Subject: Re: Safari won't let me go to Ebay? That's an odd fix. have you contacted apple through the safa

Re: extra voices

2010-04-11 Thread Esther
Hi Mary, I have the Alyona Russian voice from Infovox on my Mac. You can try out this voice, and other languages at the Assistiveware voice samples page: http://www.assistiveware.com/ivoxsamples.php The actual purchasing process is a little complicated, since in the U.S., and for North a

Re: NLS DTB players, usb flash drives, formating on a mac, cartrage errors Help?

2010-04-11 Thread Joan Alice Maria Gibson, Esquire
Thanks, Guys! Will try this trick when next I'm using me nlsdtbm! JG On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Jessica and Trish the Golden Dog < tehil...@samobile.net> wrote: > Well as some people said the library people said no more than 4 gigs. > I think you can do more than that. But I would not go

RE: NLS DTB players, usb flash drives, formating on a mac, cartrage errors Help?

2010-04-11 Thread Linda Adams
JG, In response to your question about accessing more than the first book on the drive, I wasn't sure if you had the problem with just two books on the drive or only when more than 2 books were on the drive. When I tried putting 2 books on my drive, I could only access the first one and checked

Re: NLS DTB players, usb flash drives, formating on a mac, cartrage errors Help?

2010-04-11 Thread Frank Tom
Hi there, I don't know anything about windows formating, but I do about the NLS player. I use 4 gjig thumbn drives without any problems. I insert them in the same slot as the regular cartridges go. This way they are protected; a little more difficult to get them in and out but a lot safer. Ac

iPad help.

2010-04-11 Thread Jesse Bollinger
Hi all, I just got my iPad today. I have been able to move through a row of apps but how do I move to different parts of the screen? I was in iBooks and it kept reading the same section. I couldn't figure out how to interact with another part of the screen. This is long-winded but I'm not

Re: Safari won't let me go to Ebay?

2010-04-11 Thread Kimberly thurman
VO says problem reporter and then Safari closes before I can see what the error is. Crazy! On Apr 11, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > what error are you getting? > > Take care. > > On 4/11/2010 3:03 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: >> I'm having a puzzling problem folks. I get an error wh

Re: NLS DTB players, usb flash drives, formating on a mac, cartrage errors Help?

2010-04-11 Thread Kimberly thurman
I'm using a 16 gig drive and I think you can use up to a 32 gig drive, but that might get rather cumbersome if you got too much on it. On Apr 11, 2010, at 6:48 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > I am intreagued with this thread! I have one question, what size flash > drive does the advanced digital pla

Re: Safari won't let me go to Ebay?

2010-04-11 Thread Kimberly thurman
Yes, I have done this. I've had this Macbook Pro for a few months now and this is the first time I have tried to go to Ebay. On Apr 11, 2010, at 7:07 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > That's an odd fix. have you contacted apple through the safary page and > submitted a bug through the bug reporter f

Re: iPad help.

2010-04-11 Thread Charlie Doremus
Call me stupid, but I am not really sure what your question is and I am at a disadvantage as I don't use vo on a regular basis. In iBook if you tap at the top of a page I'm told that the entire will be read. The vo will read paragraphs one at a time. The iPad is neat but it will take you a littl

Re: Safari won't let me go to Ebay?

2010-04-11 Thread Kaare Dehard
just for giggles try this, someone on the list passed it along to me a while back, and I forgot. When going to ebay try going to the following link http://hub.ebay.com Let us know if that works for you as well as it did for me. On 2010-04-11, at 9:14 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > Yes, I have do

Re: iPad help.

2010-04-11 Thread Esther
Hi Jesse, VoiceOver has a set of new gestures for moving through sections, with four finger flicks. In iBooks, you should have been able to read continuously. I remember that I could also set the rotor to read line by line. There was a page control at the bottom of each page that would let y

Re: Safari won't let me go to Ebay?

2010-04-11 Thread Kimberly thurman
It works. Thanks! On Apr 11, 2010, at 9:58 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote: > just for giggles try this, someone on the list passed it along to me a while > back, and I forgot. When going to ebay try going to the following link > http://hub.ebay.com > > Let us know if that works for you as well as it d

Re: NLS DTB players, usb flash drives, formating on a mac, cartrage errors Help?

2010-04-11 Thread Jenny Kennedy(Howard)
Here's my trick for sticking flash drives down the front of the dtbm. Get drives that have a cap that has a hole that you can put a will one of those straps around your neck. I just get one of the thinner hair ties and thread it through the hole on the cap of the flash drive. Some drives have a ca

Re: extra voices

2010-04-11 Thread Claudio Haase
Hi listers, someone try voices from loquendo? On 4/11/10, Slau Halatyn wrote: > Yep, as I said earlier, the InfoVox voices are probably the best bet. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email t

Re: multi select list boxes in safari

2010-04-11 Thread Sarah Alawami
I've never come across them. how would one interact with them to select non contiguous items. Take care. On Apr 11, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi all, > > I've come across a webpage which has raised an interesting issue for me. Is > there a way to use multi-select list boxe

Re: extra voices

2010-04-11 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Esther, Yes, I bought the Aliona russian voice just after I bought my Mac. I'd like a male voice. I've heard one from another company, I think its a capella but it might be Loquendo, I can't remember, that is the best one I've ever heard, but its not available for use on a mac or with a Windo

Re: iPad help.

2010-04-11 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi, Oh my god, you have iPads. Send me one, please? I can't get it before May or even later than that. BLAH. I know that isn't useful, but I just had to. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr

Re: multi select list boxes in safari

2010-04-11 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi, I'd like to see one of these with VoiceOver. If you have a site containing such, please point out where it is so I can take a look. I never encounter them. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter O

Re: Safari won't let me go to Ebay?

2010-04-11 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi, Once again, a fix for you guys! I'm not going to explain what the fix really is because I'm too tired. Sorry. You can look here. http://webkit.org Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 12