turning off the preview pane in Mac mail

2015-06-06 Thread Frank Ventura
Hi all, can anyone remind me of how to turn off the preview pane in Mac mail? This is what I have tried without success: Find the splitter between the messages table and preview pane and interact with it lower it to zero move the pointer to it with VO COMMAND F5 tap the mouse pad any help would

Re: Menu extras and recovery partition

2015-06-06 Thread Chris Meredith
Oh--because I dont have the old machine that was causing problems with the recover partition (although those were also fixed), as my new machine has arrived, thus getting rid of the need to "upgrade" a recovery partition. If a new machine doesn't have the latest OS, that's a different serious probl

Re: File Vault

2015-06-06 Thread Chris Meredith
It's been my experience that, if you fail to unlock FileVault and then restart the machine, you'll fall into the recovery partition (or something similar to this). If that happens, a Command+F5 should get you into a running copy of VoiceOver without a problem. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Sh

Re: Crashplan Accessibility

2015-06-06 Thread Justin Mann
I’ve tried crash plan, and I find that back blaze works better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: yosemite strangeness

2015-06-06 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hi all Not a lot know this I don't think, but it is possible to navigate the Mac similar to Windows. For example, there is something in the keyboard pain of System Preferences that allows one to tab and shift-tab between controls. Also, VoiceOver can automatically interact with tables, lists an

Re: yosemite strangeness

2015-06-06 Thread Grant
Keep in mind that you don’t have to use VoiceOver commands at all to navigate between the mailboxes list and the messages table. You can simply use TAB and SHIFT+TAB. I have just verified that this works under Yosemite when in classic view. This requires that you have gone into the Keyboard pane

Re: trillian

2015-06-06 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Actually, it is a cross-platform chatting solution. I have only found it to be accessible mainly on the Mac with OS X. Actually, come to think of it, it seems like I did try it once on iOS, and over there it worked as well. I've not tried on android though. On the windows side of things, don't e

Re: this needs to be mulled over seriously

2015-06-06 Thread Yuma Decaux
Thanks Devon for seeing past some kind of weird polemic some people in this mailing list are stuck on. I was just raising a tech question, issue, debate, whatever. But it seems not everyone is a computer science student or someone working everyday, including with apple (I won’t say more) on maki

Re: this needs to be mulled over seriously

2015-06-06 Thread Yuma Decaux
In fact, When I am done with my final exams, I am heading to Cambodia with 200 donated macs to teach blind students skills in voice over, with an NGO called Krusar thmey. The IT staff there is also blind and is excited to use the mac platform as they know a lot about its positives. See, I’m not

Re: How to Use FaceBook Messenger on Mac OS X via Messages App | OSXDaily

2015-06-06 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, After you've chatted once with the person, they'll just be in the regular global Conversation table. To initiate though, you can look under your Window menu in the Messages app and there will be shortcuts beside each messaging service you have enabled. For example, mine has cmd-0 for iMes

Re: trillian

2015-06-06 Thread RACHEL & DAMIEN
wow havent heard of that app. what does it do? is it just for Facebook? > On 6 Jun 2015, at 17:42, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > I've always been a really really huge fan of Trillian on the mac. Glad you > got it working. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "jeff `gre

Re: How to Use FaceBook Messenger on Mac OS X via Messages App | OSXDaily

2015-06-06 Thread RACHEL & DAMIEN
i dont think you have to. i just checked the box that said text chat or something and whoever you are talking to appears in the same list as your imessages. > On 6 Jun 2015, at 18:57, Kliph wrote: > > That did the trick. How do you toggle between messenger and iMessage? > >> On Jun 6, 2015,

Re: graphic design software

2015-06-06 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Because someone asked a legitimate question, and I gave a legitimate answer, sir. Get over it! Chris. - Original Message - From: george b To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 12:48 PM Subject: RE: graphic design software Why do you have to f

Re: How to Use FaceBook Messenger on Mac OS X via Messages App | OSXDaily

2015-06-06 Thread Kliph
That did the trick. How do you toggle between messenger and iMessage? > On Jun 6, 2015, at 1:49 PM, RACHEL & DAMIEN wrote: > > i put my useername at chat dot Facebook dot com and my password. >> On 6 Jun 2015, at 18:46, Kliph > > wrote: >> >> What was the secret

Re: How to Use FaceBook Messenger on Mac OS X via Messages App | OSXDaily

2015-06-06 Thread RACHEL & DAMIEN
i put my useername at chat dot Facebook dot com and my password. > On 6 Jun 2015, at 18:46, Kliph wrote: > > What was the secret? I have tried my user name, my email address, my user > name without the URL, and nothing works. Even went to my contact card in > face book contacts, and it just h

Re: How to Use FaceBook Messenger on Mac OS X via Messages App | OSXDaily

2015-06-06 Thread Kliph
What was the secret? I have tried my user name, my email address, my user name without the URL, and nothing works. Even went to my contact card in face book contacts, and it just had my user name without a number like tim suggested, and no URL. Doesn’t happen often, but this one stumps me. >

Re: Crashplan Accessibility

2015-06-06 Thread Grant
What were the developers' exact comments? This is rather surprising as I've heard mostly positive things about the service. Are there no workarounds? Grant > On Jun 4, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Shaf wrote: > > Searched the list archives and since 2012 the Settings button is inaccessible. > Now it's 20

Re: How to Use FaceBook Messenger on Mac OS X via Messages App | OSXDaily

2015-06-06 Thread Grant
I did some research into this, and Facebook did in fact announce that XMPP has been deprecated. However, the cut-off date given is April 30, 2015. We are now well into June and Facebook Chat via XMPP appears to be working just fine at my end, so it is difficult to say what the situation may be.

RE: graphic design software

2015-06-06 Thread Krysti .Power
And I took a user interface in college we used Photoshop but I was using windows then and had no screen reader or zoomtext at the time On Jun 6, 2015 1:48 PM, "george b" wrote: > Why do you have to fill people’s email boxes with crap like this below > > > > *From:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

RE: graphic design software

2015-06-06 Thread Krysti .Power
I'm using my android phone and its aurocorreting On Jun 6, 2015 1:48 PM, "george b" wrote: > Why do you have to fill people’s email boxes with crap like this below > > > > *From:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto: > macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Christopher-Mark Gilland >

RE: graphic design software

2015-06-06 Thread george b
Why do you have to fill people’s email boxes with crap like this below From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 09:40 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: graphic design softwa

Re: trillian

2015-06-06 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I've always been a really really huge fan of Trillian on the mac. Glad you got it working. Chris. - Original Message - From: "jeff `greene" To: Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 12:34 PM Subject: trillian Hi, Just got trillion to work with Facebook chat. Not really sure how I did it

Re: graphic design software

2015-06-06 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I'm guessing that by acciessable, that was just a horriffic, and I do mean, horrific! mis-spell of the word accessible. A, c c, e s s, i, b l e. If that's the case, then, realize, I never said they were accessible, nor that I knew anything about them really. I was only making another suggest

trillian

2015-06-06 Thread jeff `greene
Hi, Just got trillion to work with Facebook chat. Not really sure how I did it, but went into preferences and the Facebook option was gone. Hit add and put in my info and fb chat is working. Oddly the window that shows my timeline seems to be missing, but no big deal! Jeff -- You received this

Re: How to Use FaceBook Messenger on Mac OS X via Messages App | OSXDaily

2015-06-06 Thread RACHEL & DAMIEN
i managed to get the messages app to work with Facebook chat. at first it kept disconnecting so i walked away and left it and when i lgged in the next day it worked. go figure. lol ag > On 6 Jun 2015, at 15:52, Devin Prater wrote: > > You can't post with messages, you'll have to use the shari

Re: this needs to be mulled over seriously

2015-06-06 Thread Devin Prater
I also think that if Apple, and Facebook and Google alike, collected ifno about accessibility, like what user likes what way of navigating, what device they use to navigate, like touch screen during the night, keyboard during the day, keyboard for typing in passwords and longer texts, then perha

Re: Learning the Mac from a sighted perspective?

2015-06-06 Thread Eileen
Hi, I can confirm that it still exists. The latest one is from Wednesday. HTH. Eileen Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 6, 2015, at 7:06 AM, Gary wrote: > > Does she view podcasts? There's a great podcast call MacMost Now > that has several short Mac tutorials. I haven’t seen it in a while but

Re: How to Use FaceBook Messenger on Mac OS X via Messages App | OSXDaily

2015-06-06 Thread Devin Prater
So it still works? I thought Facebook, in their infinite wisdom, had discontinued their xmpp service. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 5, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi, > > You must use the proper FaceBook Jabber username. This is different than > your regular FaceBook login. th

Re: How to Use FaceBook Messenger on Mac OS X via Messages App | OSXDaily

2015-06-06 Thread Devin Prater
You can't post with messages, you'll have to use the sharing widget on notification center. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 6, 2015, at 9:05 AM, Jessica Moss wrote: > > Same here was a breeze setting mine up and works like a charm so far. Now > I'm just trying to figure out how to post with it.

Re: installing windows on a mac questions

2015-06-06 Thread Eileen
Hello, Those podcasts are good if you are running a 32 bit machine. The talking installer will not work on a 64 bit one. I went that route before having to think out of the box solutions. On CoolBlindTeh, there's another podcast with Cory using a product called Winstaller (I think that's the n

Re: graphic design software

2015-06-06 Thread Krysti .Power
Are those fully acciessable the thing with Photoshop now is you can't buy it out right you have to pay a monthly fee On Jun 6, 2015 10:36 AM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" wrote: > Just know, it's not gonna be all that accessible with Voiceover, but you > did ask... how about Apiture, or Photoshop.

Re: Learning the Mac from a sighted perspective?

2015-06-06 Thread Gary
Does she view podcasts? There's a great podcast call MacMost Now that has several short Mac tutorials. I haven’t seen it in a while but I think it’s still out there. Gary On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:28 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > Hi all, > Thanks to a very generous person, my (sighted) mother is finally

Re: How to Use FaceBook Messenger on Mac OS X via Messages App | OSXDaily

2015-06-06 Thread Jessica Moss
Same here was a breeze setting mine up and works like a charm so far. Now I'm just trying to figure out how to post with it. Thanks to the person who shared this. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi, > > You must use the proper FaceBook Jabber userna

Re: this needs to be mulled over seriously

2015-06-06 Thread The Believer
What would you have us all do? If you are so concerned about the direction Apple is headed, the smart thing for you to do is to donate all your Apple possesions to your favorite charity and move on. You are out of line to come down on those of is who either do not share your concerns or

Re: More logon user questions

2015-06-06 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, User accounts are independent of each other. Even as an Admin, you do not have permission to go inside the user account of another user on your computer, unless you mess with file permissions, which is not recommended. You can have User A put files into the Shared folder and then you'd ha

Dropbox Selective Sync Temp Solution

2015-06-06 Thread Shaf
Found a workaround for unselecting boxes in Selective Sync: So if you're in the browser, find what you want to deselect, then interact with it. You should here 'Edit Text'. Press tab until you here 'Cancel' then tab again to the browser. Then immediately hit space. The folder should be unselecte

Re: graphic design software

2015-06-06 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Just know, it's not gonna be all that accessible with Voiceover, but you did ask... how about Apiture, or Photoshop. Chris. - Original Message - From: Krysti .Power To: Mac Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 9:30 AM Subject: Re: graphic design software Thank you very much Bar

Re: graphic design software

2015-06-06 Thread Krysti .Power
Thank you very much Barry On Jun 5, 2015 9:19 PM, "Barry Hadder" wrote: > I believe so as it is just an image editor from my understanding. I do > not do this type of work, so I haven’t used the app. But, I have worked > with graphics designers and I am aware that it is widely used. > Might wan

Re: installing windows on a mac questions

2015-06-06 Thread Sadam Ahmed
Cameron, I had access to sighted assistance with most aspects of the actual Win 7 installation. At times I called a friend through Skype and had them give me a hand. Forget about XP the lowest you should be aiming for is 7. There's an excellent podcast over at AppleVis that discusses how to in

Re: Learning the Mac from a sighted perspective?

2015-06-06 Thread Alex Hall
Sadly, our nearest Apple Store is a few hours away, so I was hoping for some online resources first. I've gotten good suggestions here and from Twitter/other lists, so thanks everyone. > On Jun 6, 2015, at 6:06 AM, Shaf wrote: > > This is amazing! > > Why don't you have her go to an Apple stor

Re: yosemite strangeness

2015-06-06 Thread Alex Hall
I can confirm it as well, but don't let that stop you. Just set up a keyboard or trackpad commander for "find next table", and it will be much easier than vo-cmd-t. Also, don't forget that pressing command with a number corresponding to a folder in the Favorites Bar will open that folder and foc

Dropbox Selective Sync

2015-06-06 Thread Shaf
Is there an accessible way of selecting stuff in Preferences/Selective Sync that any of you have tried? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvis

Re: yosemite strangeness

2015-06-06 Thread Shaf
I can actually confirm this. You'll have to get used to it (unless you use a hotspot command). Go ahead and upgrade. On 6/6/2015 11:24 AM, John D. Lipsey wrote: Hi list: I'm almost ready to bite the bullet and upgrade my mac to Yosemite. However, the strangest thing is stopping me. I've obs

yosemite strangeness

2015-06-06 Thread John D. Lipsey
Hi list: I'm almost ready to bite the bullet and upgrade my mac to Yosemite. However, the strangest thing is stopping me. I've observed it on 3 machines at various places, but people don't seem to confirm that it's a thing. Note: The below behavior is unique to the standard view in mail, whic

Re: File Vault

2015-06-06 Thread Shaf
Yep. Usually happens when you have an external drive plugged in. Was this the case? On 6/6/2015 3:35 AM, Nicholas Parsons wrote: I recently had this issue. No idea why, but for some reason I was forced to reset my Firevolt password. The process was mostly accessible. I was confused initially,

Re: Learning the Mac from a sighted perspective?

2015-06-06 Thread Shaf
This is amazing! Why don't you have her go to an Apple store and purchase some 1 to 1 sessions or take part in some workshops? Apple are supposed to be pretty good at this thing. On 6/6/2015 1:28 AM, Alex Hall wrote: Hi all, Thanks to a very generous person, my (sighted) mother is finally us

Re: Crashplan Accessibility

2015-06-06 Thread Shaf
Thanks for this! :) On 6/6/2015 12:44 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: Tell them to get stuffed and use Arq instead? Much better. Native Cocoa app; fully accessible from get go. Awesome dev, if a little bit kooky. Your choice of storage backends. What’s not to like, except perhaps the cost?

Re: Learning the Mac from a sighted perspective?

2015-06-06 Thread RACHEL & DAMIEN
hi, i wouldnt mind knowing where to find some of this info too as my husband is partially sighted but doesnt use voiceover. > On 6 Jun 2015, at 01:28, Alex Hall wrote: > > Hi all, > Thanks to a very generous person, my (sighted) mother is finally using a Mac > instead of her old, dying, Vista l