RE: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-22 Thread Simon Fogarty
Sorrylist but I think I missed something here, So are you saying that the USA's FBI deleted the iCloud backup for the terrorists? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu Sent: Tuesday, 23

Re: trillion for mac version 3.4 built 5

2016-02-22 Thread jaan ali
Try to change it again and this time from a different browser Sent from my iPhone DISCLAIMER: "The information contained in this message is confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. It is intended only for the person(s) named as addressee. The dissemination, distribution,copying

Re: trillion for mac version 3.4 built 5

2016-02-22 Thread jaan ali
O its ok No problim☺️ Sent from my iPhone DISCLAIMER: "The information contained in this message is confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. It is intended only for the person(s) named as addressee. The dissemination, distribution,copying or disclosure of this message, or its

Re: trillion for mac version 3.4 built 5

2016-02-22 Thread Jason Shaw
i'm sorry about those messages my account was hacked. i changed my password but somebody is still sending messages to all the lists i'm on, how are they using my account if i changed my password. can someone please help! On 2/23/16, Jaan Ali wrote: > sorry but this

Re: trillion for mac version 3.4 built 5

2016-02-22 Thread Jaan Ali
sorry but this message was not for you, it was for jason kindly read the last messages of the trillion topic and you will get the idea -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-22 Thread Dora Speck
Oh,, kay then? Dora Speck [Sent from my iPhone] > On Feb 22, 2016, at 10:19 PM, Jason Shaw wrote: > > vsdvdsvsd > >> On 2/23/2016 2:07 AM, Jessica Moss wrote: >> Ok cool. >> On Feb 22, 2016, at 9:04 PM, jaan ali >

Re: trillion for mac version 3.4 built 5

2016-02-22 Thread Jaan Ali
do not show your class on the list > On Feb 23, 2016, at 1:16 AM, Jason Shaw wrote: > > learn to use fucking punctuation you little dibshit > > On 2/23/2016 6:14 AM, Jaan Ali wrote: >> hi download the new version of trillion it is the beta 5 thats why its >> not on mac

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-22 Thread Dora Speck
What's that, Jason? Dora Speck [Sent from my iPhone] > On Feb 22, 2016, at 10:20 PM, Jason Shaw wrote: > > qwegdsaadsf > >> On 2/23/2016 2:07 AM, Jessica Moss wrote: >> Ok cool. >> On Feb 22, 2016, at 9:04 PM, jaan ali >

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-22 Thread Jason Shaw
qwegdsaadsf On 2/23/2016 2:07 AM, Jessica Moss wrote: > Ok cool. > On Feb 22, 2016, at 9:04 PM, jaan ali > wrote: > >> Ok will try to provide its dropbox link in a hour or so >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> DISCLAIMER: >> "The

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-22 Thread Jason Shaw
wqerdfsvs On 2/23/2016 2:07 AM, Jessica Moss wrote: > Ok cool. > On Feb 22, 2016, at 9:04 PM, jaan ali > wrote: > >> Ok will try to provide its dropbox link in a hour or so >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> DISCLAIMER: >> "The

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-22 Thread Jason Shaw
asfd On 2/23/2016 2:07 AM, Jessica Moss wrote: > Ok cool. > On Feb 22, 2016, at 9:04 PM, jaan ali > wrote: > >> Ok will try to provide its dropbox link in a hour or so >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> DISCLAIMER: >> "The

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-22 Thread Jason Shaw
vsdvdsvsd On 2/23/2016 2:07 AM, Jessica Moss wrote: > Ok cool. > On Feb 22, 2016, at 9:04 PM, jaan ali > wrote: > >> Ok will try to provide its dropbox link in a hour or so >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> DISCLAIMER: >> "The

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-22 Thread Jason Shaw
tjsdaf On 2/23/2016 2:07 AM, Jessica Moss wrote: > Ok cool. > On Feb 22, 2016, at 9:04 PM, jaan ali > wrote: > >> Ok will try to provide its dropbox link in a hour or so >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> DISCLAIMER: >> "The

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-22 Thread Jason Shaw
wtf On 2/23/2016 2:07 AM, Jessica Moss wrote: > Ok cool. > On Feb 22, 2016, at 9:04 PM, jaan ali > wrote: > >> Ok will try to provide its dropbox link in a hour or so >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> DISCLAIMER: >> "The

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-22 Thread Jason Shaw
wtf On 2/23/2016 2:07 AM, Jessica Moss wrote: > Ok cool. > On Feb 22, 2016, at 9:04 PM, jaan ali > wrote: > >> Ok will try to provide its dropbox link in a hour or so >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> DISCLAIMER: >> "The

Re: trillion for mac version 3.4 built 5

2016-02-22 Thread Jason Shaw
learn to use fucking punctuation you little dibshit On 2/23/2016 6:14 AM, Jaan Ali wrote: > hi download the new version of trillion it is the beta 5 thats why its > not on mac store, i got it from trillion’s webside it came on 18 feb > 2016 and working great with voiceover below is the link for

trillion for mac version 3.4 built 5

2016-02-22 Thread Jaan Ali
hi download the new version of trillion it is the beta 5 thats why its not on mac store, i got it from trillion’s webside it came on 18 feb 2016 and working great with voiceover below is the link for download https://www.dropbox.com/s/75yimmphe5x9tdr/Trillian.app.zip?dl=0

Re: Questions re tactile covers

2016-02-22 Thread Helga Schreiber
Hi all! How are you all? I'm interested in getting this for my iPhone 6S. Is therre this tactile dots for an ipHone 6S? Just owndering! I just go t my iPhone 6S last year in October. I have been an ipHone user since 2013, when i got my iPhone 5. I do type faster on my apple bluetooth

reading library documentation in AppleScript

2016-02-22 Thread John Ylioja
I've looked at AppleScript a little, but am unsure if there is an efficient way to read the library documentation to find available functions. I'm planning to read some of a book I got from Bookshare on AppleScript to learn the basics before I get too complex with it. I found I can navigate

Re: Questions re tactile covers

2016-02-22 Thread Rachel Feinberg
I use the standard model, and am able to text one-handed, along with auto-correct and spelling suggestions, I sometimes prefer typing on the touch-screen than with a bluetooth keyboard. Having reference points for the 5 on the numbpad, the back/done/next/previous buttons in various apps like

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-22 Thread Jaan Ali
there you go https://www.dropbox.com/s/75yimmphe5x9tdr/Trillian.app.zip?dl=0 > On Feb 22, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: > > Ok cool. > On Feb 22, 2016, at 9:04 PM, jaan ali > wrote: > >> Ok

Re: Taking a backup from my system with VM ware

2016-02-22 Thread E.T.
The problem with using Time Machine is that after the initial backup, TM will backup the entire VNware folder again which, in my case is over 50 gigs. Will not take long to choke the drive that TM uses. My solution was to exclude that folder in TM. I use Carbon Copy Cloner and created a

Re: Taking a backup from my system with VM ware

2016-02-22 Thread Basioli George
yes it will because v m fusion is like running a app in your o s x operatting system. this is why v m fusion is a app in the apps window. so, it backups with time machine and any thing you have installed to the fusion app. > On Feb 22, 2016, at 17:58 PM, Seyoon Choi wrote:

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-22 Thread Jessica Moss
Ok cool. On Feb 22, 2016, at 9:04 PM, jaan ali wrote: > Ok will try to provide its dropbox link in a hour or so > > Sent from my iPhone > > DISCLAIMER: > "The information contained in this message is confidential and may be > protected by legal privilege. It is

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-22 Thread Jessica Moss
I've looked all over creation, and don't see a download button anywhere. On Feb 22, 2016, at 9:01 PM, jaan ali wrote: > Click on the download button which is in the starting of the message > > Sent from my iPhone > > DISCLAIMER: > "The information contained in

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-22 Thread jaan ali
Ok will try to provide its dropbox link in a hour or so Sent from my iPhone DISCLAIMER: "The information contained in this message is confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. It is intended only for the person(s) named as addressee. The dissemination, distribution,copying or

OT: Applescript refusing to see document object of Pages?

2016-02-22 Thread Alex Hall
Hey list, Anyone else out there who plays with AppleScript, I'd love your help. I'm trying to help someone automate the completion of some long forms in Pages, and I know how I'm going to do it. The problem is that even the simplest script errors out with "Pages got an error: can't get document

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-22 Thread jaan ali
Click on the download button which is in the starting of the message Sent from my iPhone DISCLAIMER: "The information contained in this message is confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. It is intended only for the person(s) named as addressee. The dissemination,

Re: Taking a backup from my system with VM ware

2016-02-22 Thread Seyoon Choi
yes, it will back up VMware as well. Basically the TimeMachine backup performs a whole system backup, and Fusion uses what’s known as VMware bundle file to store package of Windows files, which is by default stored in /users/docuements/VMware folder. If you got a big enough hard drive space you

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-22 Thread Jessica Moss
Ok, I don't see anything to download. I see something that says "attachment available until," but don't remember the date, but the save attachment option is dimmed. On Feb 22, 2016, at 8:50 PM, Jaan Ali wrote: > > Attachment available until Mar 23, 2016 > hi

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-22 Thread Jaan Ali
Attachment available until Mar 23, 2016 hi kindly remove the version that you are useing and download thisone and copy it in your app’s folder i am running it perfectly without any problim i think it is 3.2 but it is working like a charm > On Feb 22, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Jessica Moss

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-22 Thread Jaan Ali
> On Feb 22, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Jessica Moss wrote: > > k, I'm not sure if this is the version you were telling me about or not, but > when I click the link, it just temporarily goes busy, then says "empty html > content," then I see a file name called "trillian,"

Taking a backup from my system with VM ware

2016-02-22 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Hello all: finally, I got my MacBook pro with El capitan and windows 7 in VMware fusion. now I need to be sure that I can reinstall my windows any time I will need to do so, because I depend on backups all my life. if I will use the time machine, will it back up the VMware? and windows or what?

Custom Pronunciations for Entire Phrases

2016-02-22 Thread Abdullah Ibrahim Olivares
Hello, In Voiceover, is there a way of having a custom pronunciation for an entire phrase, instead of a single word? When I try creating a pronunciation for a phrase, it doesn’t seem to work. There are common phrases I want Voiceover to pronounce in a certain way, which are in a different

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-22 Thread Jessica Moss
k, I'm not sure if this is the version you were telling me about or not, but when I click the link, it just temporarily goes busy, then says "empty html content," then I see a file name called "trillian," but have no idea what version, but it's just as enaccessible as any of the other's I've

Re: Questions re tactile covers

2016-02-22 Thread Danny Noonan
As the dots are reference points less dots IMO are far less confusing. Also at least with speed dots there is no grid. Just small dots aprox the size of a Braille dot and they in no way effect use of the touch screen. I find it easier and have more control than with plane glass which is more

Re: Digest for macvisionaries@googlegroups.com - 19 updates in 5 topics

2016-02-22 Thread Chenelle Hancock
Sent from my iPhone > Hello everyone, It's been a while since I posted out here. I wanted to know I'm in the process of getting the iPad Pro and I wanted to know what Duxberry work with the iPad Pro if you're using windows word document in order to emboss a file from your iPad pro using your

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-22 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Yep, it later emerged that the FBI, through malice or incompetence, reset the account password and thus prevented those all-important (but incomplete) iCloud backups from occurring. (Notice that iCloud backups are another way in, which is something many customers aren’t aware of.) And I don’t

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-22 Thread Scott Granados
Yes, I believe the previous poster is correct we’ve deviated to far from the topic. I do appreciate everyone’s well thought out responses. If anyone is interested in deviating from the topic contact me off list we can move this to my list or else where where we won’t overly burden or offend

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-22 Thread E.T.
Scott, Spot on! And I will lay this to rest since even the apple in the first book is not being discussed. (smiles) From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 2/22/2016 10:55 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-22 Thread E.T.
Chuck, Feel free to email me off list if you want to know the truth. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 2/22/2016 10:16 AM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote: Hi E.T. Apparently you haven't read the

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-22 Thread Tyler Thompson
How exactly is this on topic? I was under the impression the discussion was about whether apple should cave to the FBI’s demands. For the sake of a reasonable, clean debate on the subject I’d like to ask we avoid religious and political beliefs. The question is a simple one, what do we think of

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-22 Thread Scott Granados
E.T. is correct. The fore fathers used spiritual principles in the idea of the constitution as well as references to a general creator and inalienable rights but the Christian God and the bible are not mentioned. In fact, a good percentage of the founders were Masons who were a very religious

RE: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-22 Thread BBS
Here is the link to get Trillian 3.4. Sorry Scott Berry for the wait as well. www.trillian.im/get/mac/3.4/. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10 Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime Username:

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-22 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi E.T. Apparently you haven't read the constitution and the bill of rights! If your open to learning about the USA history here you go; http://billofrightsinstitute.org/founding-documents/constitution/ Also heres what being politically correct gets you!

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-22 Thread E.T.
All I will say to this is that this country was not founded on biblical principles. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 2/22/2016 9:09 AM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote: Hi Scott, I agree 1776 was a great

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-22 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi Scott, I agree 1776 was a great year! This discussion wouldn't be taking place if we had "locked down" the borders and through out all the illegals in the USA! Thats correct I & the majority of the heartland of the USA are not politically correct and we dig it! I'd rather be "biblically

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-22 Thread Scott Granados
Just one thing that to me puts a whole in your argument all though really well made by the way. The FBI actually reset the phone while in it’s possession. So it’s come out in the US news, KGO radio specifically as part of their local coverage is reporting that the FBI hard reset the phone

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-22 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
OK, so I think it’s safe to come out of the woodwork and say what I think, even if it rocks the boat a bit and ruins a good love-in. I should qualify first by saying that I’m not American and therefore don’t enjoy the benefits of whatever “Precedent” is set by this case. Nor do I believe that

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-22 Thread Scott Granados
No you raise good questions. It’s a single finger print reader uncle the home button. On the 6S it was upgraded and is very very fast but it’s worked reliably now for me in all versions since release. You can scan up to 5 individual fingers and it’s advised you scan one from each hand in

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-22 Thread E.T.
Trump has everything and nothing at the same time. Boggles my mind those who follow him. Back to fingerprints. I do not have a 6 do am curious. How does this work? A single finger? Any one of the 10? How many tries does one have? Surely not 10. I see a cretin knocking you down and

Re: battery in Apple TV remote?

2016-02-22 Thread Scott Granados
Ah, you want 4K, got ya. Sounds reasonable, I’m not sure why this version didn’t have 4K, that didn’t make sense to me. > On Feb 22, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > I read that the fifth gen will support the new high res TVs. I don't care > about that, but my

Re: Questions re tactile covers

2016-02-22 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Danny, Thanks for responding. As I said, when I started using an iPhone, these things didn't exist. Consequently, I've never really thought about them until now. I confess that I dislike the thought of turning my nice, smooth iPhone into something, well, not nice and smooth, but I may

Re: Questions re tactile covers

2016-02-22 Thread Donna Goodin
I would wonder about that too, Krister. If I do decide to try one, I'll report back on it. Cheers, Donna > On Feb 22, 2016, at 4:36 AM, Krister Ekstrom > wrote: > > Just a question out of curiosity, doesn’t a tactile screen protector make it > harder to say move

Re: battery in Apple TV remote?

2016-02-22 Thread Donna Goodin
I read that the fifth gen will support the new high res TVs. I don't care about that, but my husband does, so we decided to just hold off for now. I'm looking forward to upgrading though. Cheers, Donna > On Feb 22, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > 4th gen is

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-22 Thread Scott Granados
Agreed, I’m surprised there is no mention of this on any of the other platform lists. Google is as vulnerable to this as Apple if the government sets it’s mind to it. What about all the plants as well? Juniper Networks and Cisco have both recently suffered from having NSA plants inject back

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-22 Thread Scott Granados
No, the supreme court could be the final word. In that case I would m one apple’s headquarters out of America to say South Africa and give the FBI the finger but that’s me. You bring up the Supreme court, one of the justices most likely to support Apple’s position just died and there’s a 4/4

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-22 Thread Scott Granados
Once you break the cypher you break the cypher so I can’t think of a way to break one phone only with out risking that mechanism getting out in the wild. > On Feb 20, 2016, at 4:52 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > > hmmm. good points. > now, I am not a crypto specialist. I am a

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-22 Thread Scott Granados
Just as an FYI, he has both a Samsung phone and an iPhone.:) > On Feb 20, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > Hello. > > I really like your explanation and how you put it in simple terms. You are > absolutely right so it is best that Apple stuck to their guns and

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-22 Thread Scott Granados
+1, said better than I ever could. I feel like trumpeting this from the roof tops. Well said! > On Feb 20, 2016, at 3:41 PM, Tyler Thompson wrote: > > So I feel it’s about time to throw in my 2 cents here. I’m a Certified > Ethical Hacker and I’ve got

Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

2016-02-22 Thread Scott Granados
So I almost fell out of my chair this morden. Michael Hayden, the former NSA director who lead the warrantless wiretapping program and the meta data collection program, came out strongly in favor of Apple and against the government. He feels the government’s request is far over reaching and

Re: Accessible Mac Video Editor?

2016-02-22 Thread Scott Granados
Now that is something I would like to know more about. Using final cut pro really plays in with a Drone project I’m working on and being able to edit video would be fantastic. Any podcasts? > On Feb 20, 2016, at 11:48 PM, syc20...@gmail.com wrote: > > Usually the editor that Apple makes,

Re: battery in Apple TV remote?

2016-02-22 Thread Scott Granados
4th gen is worth upgrading Dona if you still feel like it. I have one and love mine. Only thing it needs is bluetooth keyboard support which I understand is upcoming. > On Feb 21, 2016, at 9:28 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Thanks, I was just looking at it trying to figure

Re: finally got trillion up and running and have a question.

2016-02-22 Thread Jessica Moss
Where are you finding this? I've done google searches for it, and the latest I've been able to find is 3.3, which I tried after the older version still refuses to show my contacts as being on line, and the 3.3 version is just as useless. On Feb 20, 2016, at 5:12 AM, BBS

Re: Selecting text in Terminal

2016-02-22 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Usually if I need to get output from Terminal I just clear the buffer (Command-K), execute the command, then Command-A Command-C and edit once I paste it. However, the VoiceOver selection command (VO-Enter) also works to start and stop selection, prior to Command-C for copy. Interesting there

Re: Questions re tactile covers

2016-02-22 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Just a question out of curiosity, doesn’t a tactile screen protector make it harder to say move icons around on the screen? I mean that moving sorta depends on you holding down your fingers and as i understand it, that screen protector looks like a grid. /Krister > 22 feb. 2016 kl. 10:38 skrev

Re: Questions re tactile covers

2016-02-22 Thread Danny Noonan
I concidder myself a power user and although I can certainly use I devices without a speed dots on I do definately prefer the tactile. My wife and I use the advanced as the f and j home keys are enough. The entire keyboard minus home keys is harder to use IMO. The back edit 5 on the num pad etc

Re: Changing languages with a bluetooth keyboard

2016-02-22 Thread Ben J. Bloomgren
Yes, that I can do. it's just that getting to the on-screen keyboard with the Bluetooth keyboard enabled is a bit tricky. Ben - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 01:40 Subject: Re: Changing languages

Re: Questions re tactile covers

2016-02-22 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Erik, I suspect I would feel the same way, though I am thinking about giving one a try just to see if I like it. Typing speed would be the one real advantage I could see. Mostly I just use Siri and dictate, but it does seem like being able to actually type more quickly, say if you're in a

Re: Changing languages with a bluetooth keyboard

2016-02-22 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Ben, If you have the virtual keyboard showing while using your external keyboard, can you get to the Next Keyboard button? Changing the spoken language changes the Braille input and output, but they are both part of VoiceOver which the keyboard is not. Cheers, Anne > On 22 Feb 2016,