locking apple watch digital crown

2017-10-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Folks, I've been asked how to unlock a digital crown on an apple watch series 3 GPS. I have to admit I wasn't aware the digital crown could be locked although I know my s2 watch kind of locks the crown to flush out water when it gets wet. Does anyone have anyidea how the crown is both unlock

RE: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

2017-10-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
Thanks, I thought that was the case. But is this only happening to the spinning drives or on both platform types? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Wednesday, 1 November 2017 6:27 PM To: macvisionari

RE: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
Not listening to apple on this one it's actually from the bio security folks, But hey each to their own. I'm wondering how long it will be until the phone is gone, The apple watch Series 3 LTE is close to not needing the phone. So another option soon to be available -Original Message--

RE: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
You guys get off lightly, I just prepurchased the iPhone x 256 and in NZ that goes for $2099 which is a truckload of cash, However I'm trying to sell my 7+ 128 gb which will pay for half the X purchase. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries

RE: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread Robin
Why do you Beleive Apple's Face ID is SO Secure because Apple Says So? Personally, I Beleive Touch ID is More Secure & Gives Users More Security & Privacy than Apple's Face ID Would Apple go Away from The Norm & Keep its iPhoneX special by Having it be the ONLY iPhone to come Equipped With F

RE: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread Robin
Probably Not referring to Bringing Back Touch ID, but Apple may introduce something else Like Voice ID to Go Along with Face ID & its PassCode At 10:38 PM 10/31/2017, you wrote: Yeah I think the same way, I would have thought keeping the finger print sensor would have been a wise move but th

RE: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Tim, Facial recog is more secure than finger prints in this products case. But yes an identical twin would be required and then I believe may still struggle. I'll be surprised if someone doesn't crack the facial recognition some time soonn as they did pretty quickly with samsungs galaxy s

RE: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Tim and David, I can remember getting my nokia N85 I think it was that I was able to put the KNFB reader on, think that phone had a 5 MP camera and had it's moments with scanning a document. Now days I use my iPhone 7+ to take shots of computer screens which don't have screen readers work

RE: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
Who says a camera isn't usefull for blind people? Hell I use my camera on a pretty much daily basis either for taking photos of thigns for work or using KNFB reader and the Microsoft scanning app. Cameras are very usefull for us it's the mind of the individual that is the limitation -Ori

RE: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
But then the finger print sensor is not as secure as the facial recognition is, And unlike Samsung, Apple have gone away from it as we know with the x, but does that mean from here they will have another line of devices So that would be the 7or 8 line for the everyday user and then the people w

RE: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
Nothing wrong with the 7+, I've got a 128 space grey going if anyone is looking to purchase a loved phone in excellent condition . -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lenron brown Sent: Wednesday, 1 November 2017

RE: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
Yeah I think the same way, I would have thought keeping the finger print sensor would have been a wise move but the x is a change from the norm, I'm wondering about 2018 and if they might just bring it back with facial recognition and the pin code. Guess we wait and see. I just can't wait

Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

2017-10-31 Thread E.T.
Just to be clear, installing High Sierra on a spinning drive will default to macOS Extended Journaled. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did i

Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

2017-10-31 Thread E.T.
Correct. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/31/2017 10:23 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote

RE: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

2017-10-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi ET, Just had that same thought But do non ssd drives use APFS by default? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Wednesday, 1 November 2017 6:34 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Irri

RE: alternatives to Skype?

2017-10-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
Yeah sure is. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Busboom Sent: Wednesday, 1 November 2017 5:09 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: alternatives to Skype? I have Zoom on my iPhone but have

RE: Job going at apple

2017-10-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
Yeah, thing is that no one can be trusted but the father was heard answering questions on the on the video to that the daughter was making. But just goes to show doesn't take a lot to get tossed out. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googleg

OT, wishs to New Yorkers

2017-10-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
I Listers, To you all my best wishs after another stupid act of terrorism. To anyone with family in the NY area I hope your family members are all accounted for. Take care out there folks, the worlds full of dick heads who don't care about anything other than themselves. SF -- The following

Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread Robin
Will you Take It (that is Apple's NEW iPhoneX)? If SomeOne gave you the Choice between $1150 or Apple's NEW iPhoneX 256GB? I'd MostLikely take the Money & Purchase Apple's iPhone8 256GB & Keep the Change, which would probably be about $300 At 04:48 PM 10/31/2017, you wrote: Likewise. If s

Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

2017-10-31 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I wonder what VO setting you have different that has it just stop as opposed to stopping and announcing the Authentication thing. I've tried it with low verbosity. I've messed with custom verbosity on windows and web areas, still with no joy. Have tried a number of other VO things with n

Re: saving an audio text message

2017-10-31 Thread E.T.
If you swipe up on the message you might find More actions. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@iclo

saving an audio text message

2017-10-31 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all, I received an audio text message tonight that I would like to save to my Mac. Anyone know how to do this? Cheers, Donna -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if y

App Review for iOS CVS Mobile App for both iOS 10.x and iOS 11.x

2017-10-31 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone, The following is my latest iOS CVS Mobile app review. You are welcome to use any or all of it in your iOS CVS Mobile app review submission. Mark Subject: Major Account Login Problem as of October 30, 2017, on both iOS 11.x and iOS 10.x. [BEGIN APP REVIEW] Hello, There is a

Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

2017-10-31 Thread E.T.
Just ran a quick test. This is 10.13.1. I set the display to sleep after 1 minute and started a long read. All that happened was after a minute everything stopped. No announcement. Did the same thing with the screen saver. Same results. The screen saver did elicit the announcement under Sier

people are dropping reviews everywhere

2017-10-31 Thread Maria Reyes
iPhone X Review Roundup By John Voorhees Oct 31, 2017 — 09:58 EDT iPhone X first impressions and reviews were published today. Some reviewers have had Apple’s latest iOS device for about a week, while others have had it less than 24 hours. Here’s our roundup of the most interesting insights fro

Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

2017-10-31 Thread Mary Otten
Well, I didn’t know that about the slider, but mine was still set to never. I set it to 2 hours and will see if that does anything. Seems weird that “never” wouldn’t be the preferred setting for these things. Mary -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionarie

Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

2017-10-31 Thread Robert Cole
I discovered that I was not changing the amount of time that the screen would go to sleep. I was pressing VO and Space on one hour, and thought that selected that option. But that was incorrect, The correct way, is to interact with the first option after the words, "Turn display off after:” Now

Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread lenron brown
Uggh just because it's apple most people will act like they can't do no wrong. My big thing is it's not that face id is useless it's not as good as using touch id. In terms of speed. Yes I could enter my pin but it's still faster for me to use touch Id. I don't have a problem with a company getting

Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, While I don't wish to minimize anyone's concerns, Face ID even without the eye contact feature is still very secure. You basically need to be a twin to be able to fool the system from most things I've heard or read. When the finger-print sensor was first introduced on the iPhone, there wa

Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread E.T.
Likewise. If someone hands me an iPhone X I will take it home and use it. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: anci

Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
May be they don't know how to put Tuch ID in the screen yet. May be when they know, touch ID will be put back in their future designs of phones. I think Apple want to get it right before they put Touch ID back in the screen. that is my guess although I might be wrong. I wonder what else App

Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread Mary Otten
The thing that makes me sad is that Apple, by all accounts, including theirs, is abandoning touch ID completely on the phone. The security issue is specifically if you disable that part of face id that requires you to actually look at the phone. I think I read that this will be off by default if

Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread David Chittenden
Hi Tim, And, many of the people who use OCR and person helping distance video links are complaining about how we do not need or benefit from improved cameras. Kind regards, David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +61 488 988 936 Sent from my iPhone > On 1 Nov 2017, at

Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi David, I love your prospective. Very useful and logical point of view. I will definitely keep your points in mind when opinions about camera usage by the blind and visually impaired are put out there. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 31, 2017, at 17:03, David Chitten

Re: Using Braille display to read messages in Mail

2017-10-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hi Andrew. Please do report this to Apple Accessibility as they told me that it would be good in the new OS and I knew that it would not be as I was going to try it with my work display but heard that it was not useable with the Mac. Kawal. > On 31 Oct 2017, at 10:22, Andrew Lamanche wrote: >

Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
As for Apple Pay, I'll use my watch to do that, no need to depend on a phone! I am looking forward to the X despite what everyone says or complains about. As far as I am concerned, people always complain when there is change but once people get use to it, there is no fuss. I like change and a

Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread David Chittenden
Incorrect, passcode entry works on the iPhone X. I do agree that quick unlock with Face ID will be annoying as I keep my phone in my pocket and use it for some tasks. Kind regards, David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +61 488 988 936 Sent from my iPhone > On 1 Nov

Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Thank you Mark for this article. I have now committed my money to the I phone x so it will be interesting to see how it is from a blindness prospective. Kawal. > On 31 Oct 2017, at 18:41, M. Taylor wrote: > > CNET News - Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 3:38 AM > iPhone X review: 14 important tak

Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread David Chittenden
We do not believe a camera is useful for blind people. Just believing so definitely does not make it true or correct. In fact, many people believe many things which are not true, and no matter how many people believe it, those things remain untrue. Consider the camera for instance. Blind people

Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread E.T.
I don't understand the fuss. We are talking about a mainstream device, right? And we also live in the digital age where virtual crime runs rampant. If Face ID adds a layer of security, all the better. I was planning to look at the new iPhone 7s models but since that is not happening, I w

Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Yes, whatever model suits your needs and budget is likely the best. I don't have any urge to purchase an iPhone X, but I wouldn't turn it down if someone gave me one. I don't find the Face ID to be a security problem and I seem to remember a lot of noise about the finger-print sensor when

Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread Mary Otten
"Copy Samsung" is probably an unfortunate phrase. The fact remains, even for sighted people, this sounds like a pain. And for us, to make it work, you have to give up some security, because you turn off that thing where you have to actually sort of make eye contact with the phone. So for us, I s

Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I highly doubt that Apple will copy Samsung. Apple tends to start a path and keep right on going down that path. All sorts of noise was made about lighting connectors, about the removal of the headphone etc, and Apple didn't go back and re-introduce those features that they removed. Ther

Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread lenron brown
That's one thing I really hate about the X you have to take it out to unlock it and face id is not even as fast as touch ID. Because of an insurance claim I ended up having to upgrade to the 7plus. So I will stick with it for a while I think. It's a 128 so enough storage and all. On 10/31/17, Mar

Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread Mary Otten
Thanks for posting. I wasn't going to buy in iPhone X. And after reading this, if I'd had thought of it, I would've change my mind. I think Samsung have the right idea with keeping the fingerprint sensor. There are just too many use cases where this could be a problem. And I like Apple Pay and u

RE: Application for the Mac that can build audio books?

2017-10-31 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Try Audio Book builder by Splasm software. Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 1:34 PM To: 'Chris Blouch'

iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET

2017-10-31 Thread M. Taylor
CNET News - Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 3:38 AM iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET The iPhone X feels like a concept car, or a secret project. That's because of the X name, probably, and the legacy of 10 years of iPhones. It's also the fact that this is an optio

Re: Application for the Mac that can build audio books?

2017-10-31 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Maybe its because Apple has decided for us what to use? I have no problems with Itunes. /A > 30 okt. 2017 kl. 14:50 skrev Tim Kilburn : > > Hi, > > I realize that you don't care for iTunes, but once the book is in m4a or m4b > format from AudioBook Builder, you can use iTunes to create an m

Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

2017-10-31 Thread E.T.
Now that is funny, Apple cannot count higher than one. Heh. That will be reported too. I nwill be checking things out and well, so far I still have not gotten the authentication window message. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the w

Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

2017-10-31 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, If you interact with the area where the iTunes 12.7.1 is listed, there is a button that says "Reveal Individual Updates". If you VO-space on that, it will separate out the iTunes and MacOS updates so that you could choose to update either or both. Not sure why it has problems counting hig

Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

2017-10-31 Thread E.T.
It never failed to show in the login window under Sierra. Well I am now installing 10.13.1, not by choice though. The app store said there was one update which was iTunes 12.7.1. But it includes 10.13.1. Anyway, it will have some fixes, maybe the authentication is one of them. From E.T.'s K

Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

2017-10-31 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Yeah, sideways is a good assessment. I believe that I have an understanding of what's actually happening, but have yet to come up with any real solution. It's kind of related to how notifications interrupt speaking and such but, in this case it is the Login panel from the Security Server

Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

2017-10-31 Thread E.T.
Interesting. I guess that knocks the thing sideways. For a while I wondered if the issue was on non SSD drives which are formatted to APDS. Apparently not. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intellige

Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

2017-10-31 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi ET, For fun, I just did a clean install on a brand new external SSD. The problem persists. I will speak with a few of my contacts and see if I can get anywhere. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 31, 2017, at 09:03, E.T. wrote: For me it was in fact fixed. As I state

Re: Voiceover doesn't announce presence of comments in Numbers

2017-10-31 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Thanks for this. In Sierra, when you come across a cell in Numbers that has a comment, VoiceOver will say “has a comment” after it’s announced its co-ordinates. In High Sierra VoiceOver doesn’t give any indication that a cell has a comment. I will report this. Best wishes Andrew > On Oct 3

Re: alternatives to Skype?

2017-10-31 Thread Michael Busboom
I have Zoom on my iPhone but have never used it. Is a Wiki or help file available? I am also wondering if Zoom is available for the Mac. Thanks much, Mike > On 31 Oct 2017, at 11:56, Donna Goodin wrote: > > No, which is why I've used Skype in the past. But I can forward calls to my > iPhon

Re: Job going at apple

2017-10-31 Thread sandi sørensen
Well, it is sad so many adults working with or around security dont think that their very own kids can be a risk. We have for example always have different firearms in the house. But our foster kid knew that under no circumstance. Was she allowed to touch them, at all. Sandie Sent from my

Re: Voiceover doesn't announce presence of comments in Numbers

2017-10-31 Thread Larry Thacker Jr.
Unless you have since resolved the issue, I advise reporting it. My experience trying to get spreadsheet questions answered suggests we don’t have a lot of people using them so your confirmation may not be forthcoming. When I eventually upgrade I will have to remember to try this and see what

Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

2017-10-31 Thread E.T.
For me it was in fact fixed. As I stated, a clean install and no migration may have been the solution. High Sierra has its own issues but this is not one of them. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our in

Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

2017-10-31 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi ET, This has been going on since Sierra on my mac book air. Tech support said that it would be fixed a year ago! "God does not play dice with the universe" "Albert Einstein’ On Oct 31, 2017, at 10:41 AM, E.T. wrote: > Hopefully everyone is emailing Apple Accessibility with this. I have yet

Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

2017-10-31 Thread E.T.
Hopefully everyone is emailing Apple Accessibility with this. I have yet to see this. I did not use Migration Assistant when I did the clean install, not sure if that is why. Be interesting to learn what Apple says. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the m

Re: Job going at apple

2017-10-31 Thread E.T.
I disagree. If this video is not fake news, then the person who learned a lesson the hard way is the father. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God

Re: alternatives to Skype?

2017-10-31 Thread Donna Goodin
No, which is why I've used Skype in the past. But I can forward calls to my iPhone. It's admittedly less convenient, but I don't have much of a need for teleconferencing, and that's really what Zoom is designed to do. Cheers, Donna > On Oct 31, 2017, at 1:07 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Hi Do

Using Braille display to read messages in Mail

2017-10-31 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Hi, I thought this problem was going to be resolved with High Sierra upgrade but not so. When I attempt to use my Focus blue 40 Braille display to read body of an email message in Mail, I encounter problems. It seems to be impossible to read continuously through the entire message other than

Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

2017-10-31 Thread Andrew Lamanche
It happens when you are reading or when the computer is idle, Voiceover will announce this window. I did a clean install and it still happens. Andrew > On Oct 31, 2017, at 6:39 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > And is it only happening with web pages? > > I have a funny feeling I struck this with

Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but talks and interrupt continuous reading

2017-10-31 Thread Christine Grassman
This happens to me all the time as well, and it doesn’t matter what I’m doing: streaming something, reading an iBook or bookshare book, web page, email, file I’ve written. It really is truly aggravating. > On Oct 30, 2017, at 11:22 PM, E.T. wrote: > > Mary, > Help us. How about a web page (i