Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-10 Thread Linda Adams
Joshua, Okay, if I set up a new filter directly on Gmail and it automatically sets up a corresponding mailbox on Apple Mail, will those messages still go into the All Mail mailbox? Just wondering. Linda On Nov 9, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Joshua Loya wrote: If you're setting up messages for GMail

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-10 Thread Joshua Loya
Yes, they will, but they will not appear in your in box, as long as you check the skip in box check box when you create your filter. It is important to remember that your all mail folder is not the same as your in box. GMail works quite a bit differently than the way most people are used to

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-09 Thread Kerie Doyle
thanks Marlaina and Sarah, when my air arrives i will have a go at doing this, and will hopefully then be able to have my other email address subscribed to this list as it is annoying to have to keep going back between the 2 email addresses. Thanks so much for your help kerie On 11/9/10, Sarah

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-09 Thread Joshua Loya
If you're setting up messages for GMail addresses, make your filters in GMail, and the separate mailboxes will be created by default. You don't have to do anything special with Apple Mail, as long as you set up everything correctly with GMail. -Joshua On Nov 8, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Kerie Doyle

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-09 Thread Mike Arrigo
Sure, email me privately and we can set up something on skype, I might be able to give you some other voice over hints as well. On Nov 8, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: I am definitely still having problems; I do not have skype on my Air, but I can do it on my windows machine and

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Eric Oyen
sometimes it can be a little too verbose when you don't want it to be. -Eric On Nov 7, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote: Marlaina, Why would you want voice-over to shut up? Would that not defeat the reason for having voice-over? Aloha, Charlie Our new book YOU MIGHT BE A

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread denise avant
hi, notetakers have their place. you just have to remember what you want to do. for example, if i want to load a bible on a notetaker to take to church or sunday school, and pull up the verses, reading them in braille i can do that. that would be a cumbersome process on a macbook air or any

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Cursor tracking is most definitely on. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Ok Is yoru curser tracking on. I don't know if that would make a difference but I was able to get to that menu. I'm jsut thinking out loud here. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: I

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Chantel Cuddemi
Well, I was tired when I sent that reply to you last night. I knew the command but I got mixed up. Sorry. I was gld to correct myself when you said something. On Nov 8, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Hay Chantel, no worries. It's frustrating me to bits that I can't get this

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Sarah Alawami
Exactly. I usually hit the control key but most of the time I'm interacting with the table and only the subject column and most of the time I still am there so I just down arrow and hear the subject of the message. Maybe this might help. good luck. s On Nov 8, 2010, at 12:16 AM, Eric Oyen

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Sarah Alawami
I'm putting your reply below your question.: Hi all. I was just wondering, is it possible at all to do something where by I could set up something in apple mail where I could create separate places for messages that come from lists such as this one to go? What I want to have is something

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Austin Seraphin
Perhaps someone already said this. To turn off a bunch of the blank blank blank when reading mail: 1. Hit Vo-M and go to the View menu. 2. Arrow down to the Columns submenu. 3. Hit the right arrow and you will see checkboxes for all the things it can show. Uncheck any that don't seem relevant.

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Mike Arrigo
If you're still having problems, perhaps we can hop on skype, and I'll see what I can do to help you. On Nov 7, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Ok, that works but once I hear it say to macvisionar...@gmail.com, I can't vo space because it just beeps; if I add the shift, as I've

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Mike Arrigo
You'll get there, take your time, you don't ahve to everything in one day, make the switch a little at a time, and eventually it will become second nature. The mac and voice over do things differently than windows and the windows screen readers. On Nov 7, 2010, at 10:08 PM, Marlaina Lieberg

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
I am definitely still having problems; I do not have skype on my Air, but I can do it on my windows machine and have my air right with me. Marlaina On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:22 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: If you're still having problems, perhaps we can hop on skype, and I'll see what I can do to help

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Kerie Doyle
On 11/8/10, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I'm putting your reply below your question.: Hi all. I was just wondering, is it possible at all to do something where by I could set up something in apple mail where I could create separate places for messages that come from lists such as

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Kerie Doyle
sorry sarah, just one thing i forgot to ask, would i just create a normal mailbox for the rule or would it have to be a smart mailbox? sorry again and thanks Kerie On 11/8/10, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I'm putting your reply below your question.: Hi all. I was just wondering, is

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Carrie, I CREATED a normal mailbox, since I do not know what the heck a smart mailbox does or when I want it. Marlaina On Nov 8, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Kerie Doyle wrote: sorry sarah, just one thing i forgot to ask, would i just create a normal mailbox for the rule or would it have to be a smart

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-08 Thread Sarah Alawami
I do the normal mail boxes on the imap server but you can create them on your mac as well. S On Nov 8, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Kerie Doyle wrote: sorry sarah, just one thing i forgot to ask, would i just create a normal mailbox for the rule or would it have to be a smart mailbox? sorry again and

Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Hi folks. Ok, I'll stop loving my Air and start learning again from so many of you who are so kind to give your time and knowledge. I have a few situations using apple mail I'd love to fix. Here goes. 1. When I open mail, it tells me 1 row added or 5 rows added over and over until all my

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Sarah Alawami
I'll answer your second question for now.berg wrote: 2. Is there a key sequence I can use to add let's say one address from an email to my addressbook? For example, if I want to add macvisionaries, but not the sender from whom the message appears, how do I do that? My husband took the

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
When I do this, I do not see the to field; all I see is the from field even with long headers turned on. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I'll answer your second question for now.berg wrote: 2. Is there a key sequence I can use to add let's say one address from an

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Sarah Alawami
If you vo down arrow the to field is there. it is after the subject field I think. s On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: When I do this, I do not see the to field; all I see is the from field even with long headers turned on. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Sarah

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
When I vo down arrow, I am put back into your message. I'll keep trying. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: If you vo down arrow the to field is there. it is after the subject field I think. s On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: When I do this, I do

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
This is interesting; if I let vo read it to me, it reads the to field but I cannot vo down or vo arrow there at all. Surely I am doing something incorrectly! On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: If you vo down arrow the to field is there. it is after the subject field I think. s

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Mary Otten
Marlaina, When in the header after hitting command shift h to access long headers, interact, then you can arrow down and you will find the to field. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Eric Oyen
try vo shift down arrow. this will put you into interact with text mode. from there, all the headers will be available. I can find the reply-to headers and the from headers going this far, but vo shift M doesn't open an options menu for me. so I am not sure how to add a new address to the

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Sarah Alawami
Did you interact with the header field then try and vo down arrow? On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: This is interesting; if I let vo read it to me, it reads the to field but I cannot vo down or vo arrow there at all. Surely I am doing something incorrectly! On Nov 7,

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Sarah Alawami
Ok once yu get to the too field do a vo shift space and it should click the mouse. On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Mary, Ok when I do that, it has me interacting with the text of your address, subject line, date, time and the macvisionaries address but when I do vo

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Mary, I totally agree with you. I will never give up my Apex; when I want braille, I gotta have braille. When I am calling the roster of all ACB affiliates at convention and being given delegate names on the fly, I gotta be fast and furious. Also, when delegates change, I have to be quick

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Mary Otten
Ok Marlaina. Turn on long headers with command shift h. Press enter on the message you want to read while in the messages table. Vo left to get to the headers. Interact. Vo down and you should move from one header field to another, with the to: field appearing after the subject line as memory

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Mike Arrigo
You shouldn't have to press command 1 each time go back to the in box, ah, I wonder if you have the mail boxes showing? Try going to the in box, then press command shift m, and see if it says hide mail boxes. Now when you press command w, it should take you back to the in box. There's no way

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Mary Otten
Marlaina, when you hear it say tab, don't vo right. Vo down. You will get to the other fields that way. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Sarah Alawami
Actually what I do is just cmd w and close everything until I know I got mail. then I hit cmd 1 to go to my inbox. Take care. On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:37 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: You shouldn't have to press command 1 each time go back to the in box, ah, I wonder if you have the mail boxes showing?

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Sarah Alawami
Ok. after you interact and get to that person's address vo shift space. the shift will emable you to click the mouse. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Mary, This is what I am doing and when I either quick nav (which I m just starting to use) or vo left to hear message

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
, but I still want to solve this silly problem then get help on my other apple mail stuff. From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com Subject:Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover Date: November 7, 2010 7:29:15 PM PST To: macvisionaries

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Mike Arrigo
Oh sure, there's more to think about than just money, but a main stream computer will do more than a specialty note taker, and it costs less. On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:20 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I can think of at least two reasons why somebody would want a blindness notetaker rather than a Macbook

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Sarah Alawami
Now that's odd? I'll have to play with it or maybe someone will beat me to it. Hmm. Take care. BTW did you not used to a radio show about 6 years ago? you can write me off list to answer that one. .lol. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website:

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Yes, I did and when I get to the macvisionaries address, I press vo space and it beeps; when I added the shift, it brought up message properties. On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:28 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Did you interact with the header field then try and vo down arrow? On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:09 PM,

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Ah Mike, that fixed my inbox problem. Now cmd w works great. On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:37 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: You shouldn't have to press command 1 each time go back to the in box, ah, I wonder if you have the mail boxes showing? Try going to the in box, then press command shift m, and see if it

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Ok, that works but once I hear it say to macvisionar...@gmail.com, I can't vo space because it just beeps; if I add the shift, as I've said, I get message properties. I thank all of you for trying to help me get this figured out. I have so many apple mail questions, I'm sorry to be taking up

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Carolyn Haas
Hi Marlaina: It would probably make the most sense to try to reply to these as they are. So, if you scroll down, I'll do my best to address what I can. On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Hi folks. Ok, I'll stop loving my Air and start learning again from so many of you who

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Sarah, I still often do shows. And if I ever get to where I feel I know a tenth of what some of you know, I may just do one on how I made the switch from windows to Mac and why. On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Now that's odd? I'll have to play with it or maybe someone will

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Hi Carolyn. Thanks so much. I'm just not sure why some of this stuff isn't working, but I am sure it's me not my Air, smile! Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Marlaina: It would probably make the most sense to try to reply to these as they are. So, if you scroll

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Carolyn, It is a beautiful thing and while I feel like an idiot that I can't seem to get this to work despite all these great instructions, I'm still hanging in there, LOL! Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:22 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: Marlaina: Don't get into the self flogging too badly here.

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Chantel Cuddemi
HI there, Unfortunately, as far as I'm aware, there's no way to turn off the notifications of new mail messages. On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Hi folks. Ok, I'll stop loving my Air and start learning again from so many of you who are so kind to give your time and

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Chantel Cuddemi
HI there, Chantel again. To find an attachment, press command shift a in the mail window. Hth, Chantel. On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: Hi folks. Ok, I'll stop loving my Air and start learning again from so many of you who are so kind to give your time and knowledge.

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Marlaina, Hopefully my responses help you some: 1. When I open mail, it tells me 1 row added or 5 rows added over and over until all my mail is downloaded. Please tell me I can turn that off! • Sorry, turning that off is not an option. 2. Is there a key sequence I can use to add

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Carolyn, You said that slideshow is the attachment. Can you tell me how the heck I find it? I think I did this once and it worked, but now I can't get it to work. Many thanks. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Marlaina: It would probably make the most sense to try

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Maxwell Ivey Jr.
hello; i've found the simple answer is just to use command plus tab to go to one of your other windows while the mail downloads. if you have it set to play sound when its through, then you can then go back to your mail window and you should be at your last read or first unread message.

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Sarah Alawami
I like hitting cmd w to close the window intirely and keep an eye on the activities with cmd 0. Take care. On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: Well, for me, at least, I don't mind hearing vo say one row added. There's a way you casn ignore it. Simply scroll to the right of the

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Chantel Cuddemi
Oops. Right. I stand corrected. I've been using a mac for almost two years. Sorry about that. Ok, to find an attachment, go to the message headers by scrolling to the left past the messages table. Now, you will see a popup button. A popup button is the equivalent to a combo box in windows.

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Chantel Cuddemi
To each their own, Sara. Smiley. On Nov 8, 2010, at 12:24 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I like hitting cmd w to close the window intirely and keep an eye on the activities with cmd 0. Take care. On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: Well, for me, at least, I don't mind hearing

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Sarah Alawami
OH I've done both methods and sometimes I'l even look to the right to see if anything is beeing sent but yeah I do wish vo would shut up so to speak when first opening up mail. lol! On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:28 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: To each their own, Sara. Smiley. On Nov 8, 2010, at 12:24

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Carolyn
Mail Questions using voiceover Carolyn, You said that slideshow is the attachment. Can you tell me how the heck I find it? I think I did this once and it worked, but now I can't get it to work. Many thanks. Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: Hi Marlaina

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Chantel Cuddemi
Yeah. Maybe we should write Apple about that. On Nov 8, 2010, at 12:32 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: OH I've done both methods and sometimes I'l even look to the right to see if anything is beeing sent but yeah I do wish vo would shut up so to speak when first opening up mail. lol! On Nov 7,

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
and arrows. HTH Carolyn - Original Message - From: Marlaina Lieberg To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 10:15 PM Subject: Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover Carolyn, You said that slideshow is the attachment. Can you tell me how the heck I find

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Eric Oyen
I am in agreement. I would like to have the new mail notification turned off on demand (I already have a chime for it). I would also like to be able to drop the blank blankk blank... from all my new e-mails. it gets tiring hearing information thats not relevant to what I want. -Eric On Nov 7,

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Is there anybody on the list with a formal relationship with the apple folks? It would be interesting to see how many of us would like to have voiceover just shut up while we are getting our mail. It would be great if we could communicate that desire to the accessibility team. Marlaina On

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Hay Chantel, no worries. It's frustrating me to bits that I can't get this working, but I did get attachments working and that is a big hurrah, thanks to this list and people like you! Marlaina On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:18 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: Oops. Right. I stand corrected. I've been using

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Charlie Doremus
Marlaina, Why would you want voice-over to shut up? Would that not defeat the reason for having voice-over? Aloha, Charlie Our new book YOU MIGHT BE A MORON is on sale at www.giantdolphin.com click the off the bookshelf link On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Marlaina Lieberg

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
No, I want it to shut up as it is gettig mail so it does not say one row added or 30 rows added; I have a sound to ding when the mail is done, so I see no purpose for it. On Nov 7, 2010, at 10:20 PM, Charlie Doremus wrote: Marlaina, Why would you want voice-over to shut up? Would that not

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Sarah Alawami
Ok Is yoru curser tracking on. I don't know if that would make a difference but I was able to get to that menu. I'm jsut thinking out loud here. S On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: I am in agreement. I would like to have the new mail notification turned off on demand (I already

Re: Some Apple Mail Questions using voiceover

2010-11-07 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hello Marlaina TO actually answer your other questions. I'll just put them below so everyone knows which ones I'm referring to. 1. When I open mail, it tells me 1 row added or 5 rows added over and over until all my mail is downloaded. Please tell me I can turn that off! This is not a