Re: Interesting thing with VoiceOver 4.0

2010-07-19 Thread Portia
Hi Nick, That is very interesting. When I can, I will look at that. Portia. - Original Message - From: Nicolai Svendsen To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 5:51 AM Subject: Interesting thing with VoiceOver 4.0 Hi guys, So I was adding

Interesting thing with VoiceOver 4.0

2010-07-03 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi guys, So I was adding commands to my Keyboard Commander, and noticed something. I went into the wrong category, and wanted to back out. I usually hit right arrow to go into the menu, and hit left arrow to go back out. Now, here is the weirdness. You don't get feedback. If you back out with

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-29 Thread Chris Moore
so I was wondering what features/ improvements you would like implemented >> into VoiceOver 4.0 and hopefully Apple are listening. >> >> i will get the ball rolling ... >> >> 1. Intelligent number reading. if voiceover encounters numbers then it >> can only

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-29 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Chris, On Jun 29, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > Totally agree, all the legacy voices should go (am sure they could be > downloaded if anyone really wanted them) as they are useless. The legacy voices don't use much in the way of resources so getting rid of them would save nothing

RE: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-29 Thread Dave Taylor
lf Of Chris Moore Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 1:27 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VoiceOver 4.0 Totally agree, all the legacy voices should go (am sure they could be downloaded if anyone really wanted them) as they are useless. Apple already have a license for international voic

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-29 Thread Chris Moore
out of he way, I think the next thing we >>> should start looking forward to is the next Mac OS. 10.7 (lion maybe?). >>> >>> so I was wondering what features/ improvements you would like implemented >>> into VoiceOver 4.0 and hopefully Apple are listening. &

RE: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-29 Thread Dave Taylor
PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VoiceOver 4.0 Hi, Normally i don't comment on these threads, because i'm so very afraid that too many user requests will turn an excelent screen reader into bloatware as the case is with Jaws, which unfortunately has become the defacto fo

RE: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-29 Thread Dave Taylor
Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of DJ Nezumi Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 11:58 AM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: VoiceOver 4.0 hi chris just a suggestion but could we have a headings list in VO? not just on the web but like in

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-29 Thread Krister Ekstrom
der. > > On Jun 26, 2010, at 11:57 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Well guys now the iPhone 4.0 is out of he way, I think the next thing we >> should start looking forward to is the next Mac OS. 10.7 (lion maybe?). >> >> so I was wondering what features/ improvem

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-29 Thread DJ Nezumi
like implemented > into VoiceOver 4.0 and hopefully Apple are listening. > > i will get the ball rolling ... > > 1.Intelligent number reading. if voiceover encounters numbers then it > can only be set to read them as words or numbers. It would be neat if > VoiceOver knew w

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-29 Thread Chris Moore
Now I never knew about that touchpad shortcut with the control key etc, just tried it and it works a treat. My 27 inch iMac is becoming more redundant by the day. I hope they bring out a usb touchpad so I can ditch the useless mouse. On 29 Jun 2010, at 02:06, Michael Thurman wrote: > if you

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-28 Thread Sarah Alawami
I use a swipe down with 2 fingers as my say all and works good. S On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:31 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > Michael, > I think that pressing the vo keys plus a will do the same as the insert down > arrow in JAWS. I don't use JAWS, or haven't for a while, but I think insert > down arrow r

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-28 Thread Mary Otten
Michael, I think that pressing the vo keys plus a will do the same as the insert down arrow in JAWS. I don't use JAWS, or haven't for a while, but I think insert down arrow reads from cursor position forward; if that is the case, then vo keys plus a does the trick. Or you could have something in

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-28 Thread Michael Thurman
if you are reading something, or even if youare not with the track pad commander turned on you can control speech rate by holding down control and turning the rotor then when you let go the speech continues optin does pitch command does volume On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:44 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > H

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-28 Thread Michael Thurman
absolutely the right shift key is incredibly convenient in web pages to skip all the repeated crap present in so many sites, also when looking for a sectionin a long text file also how about a conenient say all like insert down arrow in jaws, but perhaps there is one I don't know about alread

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-27 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Annie, For the time being, Apple doesn't even provide grade 1 Braille in other languages apart from American English. It's my husband who provides all the Braille in other languages, and he has not found a way to implement contracted Braille. He has had no help whatsoever from Apple in th

RE: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-27 Thread Simon F
m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: VoiceOver 4.0 Well guys now the iPhone 4.0 is out of he way, I think the next thing we should start looking forward to is the next Mac OS. 10.7 (lion maybe?). so I was wondering what features/ improvements you would like implemented into VoiceOver 4.0 and hope

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-27 Thread Mary Otten
Yes, I do know about vo a to read from current position. thanks. mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvis

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-27 Thread Chris Moore
also you do know about VO A to read all from your current position don't you? On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:44, Mary Otten wrote: > Hi Chris, > I was somehow blissfully not aware of the ability to switch speech rate and > language without going into the voiceover utility. Now that I know about it, > I

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-27 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi all. One thing that I would really wish would be implemented is grade two braille in other languages than english, I would love a sort of router so you can easily change between languages and the braille grade two changes too. I would like grade two for danish so much, it would be a dream if we

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-27 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Chris, I was somehow blissfully not aware of the ability to switch speech rate and language without going into the voiceover utility. Now that I know about it, I will definitely use it. mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" grou

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-27 Thread Mary Otten
Thanks for the tip on ghost reader, Ann. I do have infovox voices, but not ghost reader. I actually would like this ability incorporated into vo, rather than having to buy yet another separate application. It seems a lot simpler than using an entirely different app, but I'll go have another loo

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-27 Thread John André Netland
Ah, I see what you mean Mary, currently VoiceOver will scrub through the text if you hold control-option-down arrow or only down arrow down while it scans through the text, but when you lift your fingers, it will stop in stead of continue reading, like you'd like it to do. It would be a neat ext

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-27 Thread Chris Moore
Thanks for that Mary, do you not change the rate by pressing control + option + command and then use the cursor keys, or are you referring to an easier solution then that? On 27 Jun 2010, at 18:27, Mary Otten wrote: > I would love to see application specific settings and also an easy way to > a

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-27 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Mary, OK, I understand now. What you need is GhostReader if what you want to do is just read a document. With GhostReader, you can skip any number of sentences or paragraphs and GhostReader will pick up immediately. I use this application for reading the original version of the document

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-27 Thread Mary Otten
Hi John, Unless I'm just not doing it right, the present reading commands don't exactly do what I'm talking about. for example, control option down arrow is suppose to read next line. It does that. but what I want to be able to do, and can do with Windows screen readers and my ocr application is

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-27 Thread John André Netland
Hi Mary, Good suggestions, but remember that some of these already are more or less found in VoiceOver: •Change speech rate/volume/pitch/intonation/language on the fly by holding down control-option-command and select what you would like to change with the left/right arrow, and change value wi

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-27 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Ann, I'm talking about skipping text while vo is reading, not stopping speech and reading by line etc. If you find yourself wanting to skip over chunks of text or lines, this is a very useful feature, one I use in my Windows life quite often. Since I use quicknav, I also don't tent to lock vo

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-27 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Mary, You can adjust speech rate on the fly by pressing VO-Command-Right arrow until you find Speech Rate, then using VO-Command-Up or Down arrow to adjust it. If you are adjusting the speech rate regularly, you will find it is the setting you are on. I adjust language all the time, so t

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-27 Thread Mary Otten
I would love to see application specific settings and also an easy way to adjust speech rate on the fly. Another thing I would like is a way to skim through text while continuous reading is in progress. Move by line is something the screen readers have had for a while now, and it is very conven

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-27 Thread Alfredo
I would like to get the webpage name spoken by voice ofver when I am tabbing through safari windows. Better yet, I would like tog et the webpage name spoken by voice over when tabbing between tabs in a safari window. This feature would make browsing multiple pages, which many of us do, much mor

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-27 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
; should start looking forward to is the next Mac OS. 10.7 (lion maybe?). >> >> so I was wondering what features/ improvements you would like implemented >> into VoiceOver 4.0 and hopefully Apple are listening. >> >> i will get the ball rolling ... >> >>

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-26 Thread Chris Moore
Bryan > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 12:57 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: VoiceOver 4.0 > > Well guys now the iP

RE: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-26 Thread Bryan Smart
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 12:57 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: VoiceOver 4.0 Well guys now the iPhone 4.0 is out of he way, I think the next thing we should start looking forward to is the next Mac OS. 10.7 (lion maybe?). so I was wondering what features/ improvements you wo

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-26 Thread Pete Nalda
ndering what features/ improvements you would like implemented > into VoiceOver 4.0 and hopefully Apple are listening. > > i will get the ball rolling ... > > 1.Intelligent number reading. if voiceover encounters numbers then it > can only be set to read them as words or

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-26 Thread Pete Nalda
be?). > > so I was wondering what features/ improvements you would like implemented > into VoiceOver 4.0 and hopefully Apple are listening. > > i will get the ball rolling ... > > 1.Intelligent number reading. if voiceover encounters numbers then it > can only be s

Re: VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-26 Thread Chris Moore
implemented > into VoiceOver 4.0 and hopefully Apple are listening. > > i will get the ball rolling ... > > 1.Intelligent number reading. if voiceover encounters numbers then it > can only be set to read them as words or numbers. It would be neat if > VoiceOver knew wh

VoiceOver 4.0

2010-06-26 Thread Chris Moore
Well guys now the iPhone 4.0 is out of he way, I think the next thing we should start looking forward to is the next Mac OS. 10.7 (lion maybe?). so I was wondering what features/ improvements you would like implemented into VoiceOver 4.0 and hopefully Apple are listening. i will get the ball