does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread a radix
Hello everyone, ok this may sem elike a strange question but I read that, if you want to navigate through a window to review it, or a document for example you need to use the voice key (which is either command or control if i got that right)+ arrow down or up, but would tha tnot require both han

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread william lomas
you have to use control option and arrow keys, to navigate around On 17 Jul 2009, at 14:31, a radix wrote: > Hello everyone, ok this may sem elike a strange question but I read > that, if you want to navigate through a window to review it, or a > document for example you need to use the voice

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Anowk, On Jul 17, 2009, at 3:31 PM, a radix wrote: > I read that, if you want to navigate through a window to review it, > or a document for example you need to use the voice key (which is > either command or control if i got that right)+ arrow down or up, > but would tha tnot require

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi, you will get best joy out of your braille display, since a button on your display will be set to scroll right and another to scroll left. In many instances where reading is required, such as typing a document in text edit, the arrow keys do just fine on their own with out needing to us

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread Alex
Hi, Most of the time you can use "Down Arrow/Up Arrow/Left Arrow/Right Arrow" in documents. Regards, Aex, On Jul 17, 2009, at 6:56 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Anowk, > > > On Jul 17, 2009, at 3:31 PM, a radix wrote: >> I read that, if you want to navigate through a window to review it,

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread Esther
Hi Anouk, Although you use the VoiceOver keys (Control and Option) for navigation, you can lock these keys on with VO-semi-colon (Control- Option-Semi-colon). Then any commands you issue assume that the VoiceOver keys (Control and Option) are engaged until your press semi- colon again. Man

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread Chris Blouch
You can also lock the voiceover keys on with VO and semicolon. Then you don't have to hold down control and option while doing voiceover commands. CB william lomas wrote: > you have to use control option and arrow keys, to navigate around > > On 17 Jul 2009, at 14:31, a radix wrote: > >> Hello e

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread Scott Bresnahan
Hi, In addition to Ester's excellent recommendations, there's a system extension called USB Overdrive that will allow you to set keyboard actions for USB key presses on controllers and mice. Although I don't know what the Braille devices appear as to the USB bus, it may be possible that USB

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread kaare dehard
there is a work around here, and this is purely from the use of voice perspective. if you first press ctrl-option then ; you can then use the arrow keys on the keyboard to move vo around one-handedly . When done don't forget to press ctrl-option-; again to return the behavior to normal for

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread a radix
have gotten from voicover and second to try it all out after I have finished reading the manual. Greetings, Anouk, - Original Message - From: kaare dehard To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 7:17 PM Subject: Re: does reading on the mac take two hands

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread a radix
17, 2009 4:02 PM Subject: Re: does reading on the mac take two hands? Hi Anouk, Although you use the VoiceOver keys (Control and Option) for navigation, you can lock these keys on with VO-semi-colon (Control-Option-Semi-colon). Then any commands you issue assume that the VoiceOver keys

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread a radix
, - Original Message - From: erik burggraaf To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 3:55 PM Subject: Re: does reading on the mac take two hands? Hi, you will get best joy out of your braille display, since a button on your display will be set to scroll right and

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread Josh de Lioncourt
legroups.com > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 4:02 PM > Subject: Re: does reading on the mac take two hands? > > Hi Anouk, > > Although you use the VoiceOver keys (Control and Option) for > navigation, you can lock these keys on with VO-semi-colon (Control- > Opti

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-17 Thread Alex Jurgensen
Hi, USB OverDrive does not work with the PM 40 display for sure. It just doesn't show up. Regards, Alex, On 17-Jul-09, at 7:33 AM, Scott Bresnahan wrote: > > Hi, > > In addition to Ester's excellent recommendations, there's a system > extension called USB Overdrive that will allow you to se

Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Victor Tsaran
Beware, however, that even though you can lock control and option keys, you will find yourself in frequent situations where you need to unlock them, e.g. when browsing the web or trying to interact with various objects (tables, HTML CONTENT areas etc). It does get a little annoying to use voice

mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread a radix
2009 9:42 AM Subject: Re: does reading on the mac take two hands? > > Beware, however, that even though you can lock control and option keys, > you will find yourself in frequent situations where you need to unlock > them, e.g. when browsing the web or trying to interact with various &

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread erik burggraaf
If it is optional then there is not much difference imo > between using it on a laptop or a pc... > Greetings, Anouk, > - Original Message - > From: "Victor Tsaran" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:42 AM > Subject: Re: does reading on the mac take two ha

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Anowk, A numeric keypad is not necessary for VoiceOver, it's just another option. I prefer not to use one but I suspect I'm in the minority there. With VoiceOver, there is very rarely just one way of doing something. Very few of us have had any formal training in VoiceOver, so we tend

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread a radix
, - Original Message - From: "erik burggraaf" To: Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 2:19 PM Subject: Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands? > > Hi Anouk, The numpad is in deed optional, and there really isn't that > much difference between

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Alex Jurgensen
n using it on a laptop or a pc... > Greetings, Anouk, > - Original Message - > From: "Victor Tsaran" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:42 AM > Subject: Re: does reading on the mac take two hands? > > >> >> Beware, however, that even thoug

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Alex Jurgensen
ggraaf" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 2:19 PM > Subject: Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac > take two > hands? > > >> >> Hi Anouk, The numpad is in deed optional, and there really isn't >> that >> much differ

RE: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread peter Apgar
aries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands? Hi, It is optional with a numpad, but it enhances it. Regards, Alex, On 18-Jul-09, at 5:02 AM, a radix wrote: > > Hi, Do you actually need the numeric keypad to use voicover? I though

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Alex Jurgensen
> > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Jurgensen > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 6:45 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on th

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Esther
>> between using it on a laptop or a pc... >> Greetings, Anouk, >> - Original Message - >> From: "Victor Tsaran" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:42 AM >> Subject: Re: does reading on the mac take two hands? >> >> >>> >

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread May and Wynter
ubject: Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands? > > Hi Anouk, > > You don't need to use a numeric keypad with VoiceOver, but with > Leopard you have another option of customizing your frequently used > VoiceOver commands with the NumPad Com

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Esther
- Original Message - > From: "Esther" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:29 PM > Subject: Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac > take two > hands? > > >> >> Hi Anouk, >> >> You don't need to us

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread May and Wynter
to have >> the >> keypad tha you are talking about to use windows? >> >> May, I'm ready for the stress to end. Off to Edmonton on the 25th. >> ----- Original Message - >> From: "Esther" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:29

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Michael Huckabay
the stress to end. Off to Edmonton on the 25th. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Esther" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:29 PM >> Subject: Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac >> take two >> hands? >> &

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread May and Wynter
ael Huckabay" To: Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:41 PM Subject: Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands? > > Hi there Mike H here. Mabey I can ancer your question about they > laptop key mapping. I am running window's xp under a VM. I have

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-18 Thread Esther
t;> Esther >> >> >> On Jul 18, 2009, at 17:57, May and Wynter wrote: >> >>> >>> If I put windows on my mac machine when I get it, do I have to have >>> the >>> keypad tha you are talking about to use windows? >>> >>> Ma

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-19 Thread Dan Eickmeier
s it. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Alex, >>> >>> >>> On 18-Jul-09, at 5:02 AM, a radix wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi, Do you actually need the numeric keypad to use voicover? I >>>> thought it &g

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-21 Thread erik burggraaf
I >>> thought it >>> was optional. If it is optional then there is not much difference >>> imo >>> between using it on a laptop or a pc... >>> Greetings, Anouk, >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Victor Tsaran" >>&

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-21 Thread erik burggraaf
he numeric keypad to use voicover? I >> thought >> it was optional. If it is optional then there is not much difference >> imo between using it on a laptop or a pc... >> Greetings, Anouk, >> ----- Original Message - >> From: "Victor Tsaran" >&

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-21 Thread erik burggraaf
From: "Esther" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:29 PM > Subject: Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac > take two > hands? > > >> >> Hi Anouk, >> >> You don't need to use a numeric keypad with VoiceOver, but wit

Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac take two hands?

2009-07-23 Thread Chris Blouch
l then there is not much difference imo >> between using it on a laptop or a pc... >> Greetings, Anouk, >> - Original Message - >> From: "Victor Tsaran" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:42 AM >> Subject: Re: does reading on the