menus on web pages causing problems

2015-06-17 Thread Mike Arrigo
Hey everyone, I'm wondering if anyone else has seen this. This is with mac os version 10.10.3 and the newest version of safari. On some pages, voiceover will say something like menu, 7 items, and no matter what you do, will not navigate that page. Tabbing does nothing, you can navigate down wit

menus on web pages causing problems

2015-06-18 Thread Adrienne Chalmers
Guys I had this when I recently bought a new MBP. Sites were showing links under headings as usual on my iMac, but the new MBP was just showing the headings. I assumed it was settings and tried all the group/dom stuff and everything else I could think of. I eventually emailed Apple and they sa

Re: menus on web pages causing problems

2015-06-17 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Yes, I've experienced this behaviour to my utter dismay. Sometimes it helps to change to group navigation mode to overcome this problem. I have no idea what happens but it does for instance the national lottery page in the UK. It makes it impossible to navigate. Interestingly, if you toggle

Re: menus on web pages causing problems

2015-06-17 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Ditto. It’s a problem. When you find a page, tell Apple, for heaven’s sake, or it’ll never get sorted out. Cheers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an em

Re: menus on web pages causing problems

2015-06-17 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I have had this problem. I actually thought at the time something was wrong with the web site. To overcome this, I'd visit the same site on my Work's Windows machine. I know I'm cheating. Kawal. On 17 Jun 2015, at 21:12, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: Ditto. It’s a problem. When you find a p

Re: menus on web pages causing problems

2015-06-17 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
On web pages there are real menus created using the select element and options within that select. Some sites choose to fake this behavior with piles of spans, divs, css and javascript event handlers. There are lots of reasons they do this such as making a consistent look and feel between diffe

Re: menus on web pages causing problems

2015-06-17 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
You’re right, web 2.0 (and ARIA, by extension) are the spawns of Satan however there are definitely times when VO actually does miss content out entirely, especially in certain multi-level tables. I dunno why this is, but there’s never a problem with any other browser / screen reader combo. --

Re: menus on web pages causing problems

2015-06-17 Thread Grant
Sometimes it helps to disable styles, which you can do from the develop menu in the menu bar. If that isn’t showing up, hit CMD+COMMA for Safari’s preferences and navigate to the advanced tab. There is an option to show the development menu there. Grant On Jun 17, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Mike Arrig

Re: menus on web pages causing problems

2015-06-17 Thread Nicholas Parsons
The work around I use is to open the window menu using VO-m followed by typing w i n, navigate through a couple of the options using the arrow keys, and then press escape. No idea why this affects it but it seems to work. Maybe it’s removing the selection from the webpage and thus making the men