Re: pdf, captcha, eba/paypal, and access.

2011-11-09 Thread Chris Blouch
nto a USB port, find the field on a website that requests it and push inside the easily felt area and it acts like a keyboard to fill the box with a code. - Original Message - From: "Chris Blouch" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 4:10 PM Subject: Re: pdf, captcha, eba/pa

Re: pdf, captcha, eba/paypal, and access.

2011-11-09 Thread Brent Harding
e box with a code. - Original Message - From: "Chris Blouch" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 4:10 PM Subject: Re: pdf, captcha, eba/paypal, and access. If you've got one I'm all ears :) I've reviewed a number of them from various research centers an

Re: pdf, captcha, eba/paypal, and access.

2011-11-09 Thread Chris Blouch
If you've got one I'm all ears :) I've reviewed a number of them from various research centers and they all fall down in one of the three areas I mentioned. Most question based captchas either have so few questions that a parser could figure out the right answers or they aren't specific enough

Re: pdf, captcha, eba/paypal, and access.

2011-11-09 Thread Eric Oyen
Karon, I have found that most PDF files are not readable using voiceover in OS X. this doesn't mean all of them are inaccessible, but it appears that a vast majority are imported graphic files in a container. as for captchas, I find them nearly impossible to solve, and some sites that have aud

Re: pdf, captcha, eba/paypal, and access.

2011-11-09 Thread Karen Lewellen
What is wrong with the real questions that requre human input? One can connect with all that way We are talking about a solution that does not require captcha in my book, but that is just me. Karen On Wed, 9 Nov 2011, Chris Blouch wrote: So you're asking about people who have both audio and v

Re: pdf, captcha, eba/paypal, and access.

2011-11-09 Thread Chris Blouch
So you're asking about people who have both audio and vision impairment? It's a bit tougher case which would probably best be handled by a third party out-of-band authentication service like http://www.authentify.com/. If you can't see images or hear audio, anything else you do in the browser i

Re: pdf, captcha, eba/paypal, and access.

2011-11-09 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi Chris! But of course quite a few people have a hearing impairment! And have said the audio capture is bad for them! What the solution for security is to get around this is going to be difficult! Colin On 9 Nov 2011, at 19:01, Chris Blouch wrote: > My usual rules of thumb for CAPTCHA which work

Re: pdf, captcha, eba/paypal, and access.

2011-11-09 Thread Chris Blouch
My usual rules of thumb for CAPTCHA which work at Internet scale are: 1. Algorithmically generated puzzles which are hard for algorithms to solve (one-way transforms) Likewise, puzzles which are reasonably possible for real people to solve 2. Puzzles which do not require localization 3. Pu

pdf, captcha, eba/paypal, and access.

2011-11-08 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi folks, For reasons that are complicated to explain I have the ear of the legal department at paypal -ebay. Part of the reason is that, as some of you may know, they are *requiring* all users to agree that that they read pdf files, or they will lose their account. Because of this and some o