[maemo-developers] Re: video chat protocol

2007-01-21 Thread Alan Pater
Jochen Eisinger jochen at penguin-breeder.org ok, I've also looked the Nokia client (NICI), and it looks very GPLish and all-in-all not like a windows app... So my new question is: will Nokia release the source soon anyway, or would it be worth it to start implementing an linux client, based on

Re: [maemo-developers] Can Epiphany-browser be ported to Maemo ?

2007-01-21 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
What's wrong with Minimo port? It's Mozilla core too... 2007/1/20, Anuj Verma (Kevin) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Out of curiosity, I will love to know if Epiphany can be ported to Maemo platform for Nokia 770 N800 devices. I certainly don't wanna miss my favorite browser on N800.

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: video chat protocol

2007-01-21 Thread Jochen Eisinger
Hi, Alan Pater wrote: I see that there is MS windows companion application at http://videovoip.tableteer.nokia.com/ There is a link at the bottom of that page to the source. Is it possible to build a regular Linux client from that? the libjingle included contains a video session. Assuming the

[maemo-developers] Re: Can Epiphany-browser be ported to Maemo ?

2007-01-21 Thread Anuj Verma (Kevin)
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:07:59 +0100, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote: What's wrong with Minimo port? It's Mozilla core too... Indeed, just as you stumbled me, I am impressed with Minimo so far. We'll hold this conversation for a while, maybe there is a scope of comparison. Cheers,

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Can Epiphany-browser be ported to Maemo ?

2007-01-21 Thread Pandit Panburana
Hello, Do you happen to know what is the memory footprint of the minimo now? Thank you, -Pandit - Original Message From: Anuj Verma (Kevin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 6:51:05 AM Subject: [maemo-developers] Re: Can

[maemo-developers] Developer device program update

2007-01-21 Thread Quim Gil
Dear Maemo contributors, We will be sending discount codes to the elected people tomorrow Monday, 22nd. These are the criteria we have been using for the invitations: - People recommended by core Maemo developers (Nokia employees). - Active project members at garage.maemo.org. - Maintainers of

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Can Epiphany-browser be ported to Maemo ?

2007-01-21 Thread Antonio Gomes
after installed , it footprints around 11 Mb. regards On 1/21/07, Pandit Panburana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Do you happen to know what is the memory footprint of the minimo now? Thank you, -Pandit - Original Message From: Anuj Verma (Kevin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [maemo-developers] SDHC Flash Support...

2007-01-21 Thread Mark Lee
Applying the patch is straight forward. My two cards (4Gb sdhc) seem to be working fine. See here for a capable kernel, http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30439#post30439 On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 11:09:21AM +0200, Marius Gedminas wrote: On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 02:05:45PM

[maemo-developers] N800 GUI Improvements from a Newton Developer's Perspective

2007-01-21 Thread Sean Luke
After using the N800 for a week or two, which of course qualifies me as Knowing All Things About It :-), I've thrown together a web page describing various places the N800's GUI could be improved, and some ugly bugs, from the perspective of a Newton developer (myself). As I like the N800

[maemo-developers] Re: N800, xkb and Sierra full size keyboard

2007-01-21 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
Laurent, If N800 is using standard XKB configuration files (which I'd love to check personally if I get into the Developer Program:) - would you please care to submit your xkb model to xkeyboard-config project @ freedesktop.org? Actually, in xkeyboard-config CVS you can find samples of many

Re: [maemo-developers] SDHC Flash Support...

2007-01-21 Thread John P. Mitchell
Mark, On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, Mark Lee wrote: Applying the patch is straight forward. My two cards (4Gb sdhc) seem to be working fine. See here for a capable kernel, http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30439#post30439 Is the standard out of the box N800 kernel? Is

Re: [maemo-developers] SDHC Flash Support...

2007-01-21 Thread Mark Lee
It is a kernel I've built. It's the bog standard kernel (kernel-source-rx-34) with no alterations other than the patch submitted by Philip Langdale applied to it. The md5sum is 2f0d130cb7b0d7e62f5b1a535927a921 though I'm not sure what benefit it'll be as it's no guarentee I can be trusted :)

Re: [maemo-developers] N800 GUI Improvements from a Newton Developer's Perspective

2007-01-21 Thread Levi Bard
Before I made the site public, I thought I'd post it to the developers' group and ask for some comments, agreements, and disagreements. The site URL may change afterwards. http://cs.gmu.edu/~sean/stuff/n800/ Plenty of valid criticisms here (handwriting recognition, screen rotation,

[maemo-developers] Maemo 3.0 VMWare Appliance w/ extras

2007-01-21 Thread Kon Wilms
Hi All, I have put together a 3.0-based VM Appliance built on Ubuntu. It is online for bittorrent here: http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/702 If anyone has suggestions for improvements and non-bittorrent hosting please let me know :-) Sorry for the cross-post to -users and

[maemo-developers] Re: N800 GUI Improvements from a Newton Developer's Perspective

2007-01-21 Thread Neil MacLeod
Alessandro Pasotti wrote: Really interesting GUI in depth analysis, I mostly agree with you except for the gutter being too big in scrollbars. I feel that although wasting some space, this big gutter is useful, since if it were smaller it would be difficult to use the scrollbars with the

Re: [maemo-developers] N800 GUI Improvements from a Newton Developer's Perspective

2007-01-21 Thread Brad Midgley
Levi Overall, you made some good points, but it felt to me like they were semi-submerged within the general current of, I'm angry because the N800 isn't a Newton with updated hardware and a stripped-down OSX. I enjoyed reading Sean's criticism. He states at the start of the document that he

Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 3.0 VMWare Appliance w/ extras

2007-01-21 Thread Alan Pater
Will this allow one to run all the applications included on the N800 on a PC? If not, is there a way to do that? On 1/21/07, Levi Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have put together a 3.0-based VM Appliance built on Ubuntu. It is online for bittorrent here:

Re: [maemo-developers] N800 GUI Improvements from a Newton Developer's Perspective

2007-01-21 Thread Levi Bard
Overall, you made some good points, but it felt to me like they were semi-submerged within the general current of, I'm angry because the N800 isn't a Newton with updated hardware and a stripped-down OSX. One thing I really like about maemo is there are things improving in every rev. Has

Re: [maemo-developers] Maemo 3.0 VMWare Appliance w/ extras

2007-01-21 Thread Kon Wilms
It will allow you to compile the applications that have been released as open source on the N800 inside the VM scratchbox, and run them via Xephyr, also inside the VM. You can run and debug your console and GUI applications with CPU transparency. The point of the appliance is to allow people

Re: [maemo-developers] N800 GUI Improvements from a Newton Developer's Perspective

2007-01-21 Thread Sean Luke
On Jan 21, 2007, at 9:37 PM, Levi Bard wrote: No one should get offended by any facet of this discussion. I won't get religious about an object store and if there is someone out there who is passionate about having extra gutters, you should be able to voice it without recriminations. :)

[maemo-developers] Re: N800 GUI Improvements from a Newton Developer's Perspective

2007-01-21 Thread Kemal Hadimli
hilarious review, i even chuckled here and there. although you should know that (i'm just guessing) some of the stuff you mentioned will never be like newton. the unmovable notification on top right bothers me a lot too. especially when i'm just connected to the net and want to unmute sound /

Re: [maemo-developers] N800 GUI Improvements from a Newton Developer's Perspective

2007-01-21 Thread Brad Midgley
Sean I did indeed, and a semi-snark-filled article deserves semi-snark-filled feedback. It's reasonable. Several of the criticisms were valid, and I'll tweak the article a bit appropriately. And respond later on perhaps to some of the criticisms that I think were off the mark; at the very