Re: Making my app. appear on the Navigator menu

2007-09-25 Thread Mike Klein
It recently took me 2.5 days to install DevStudio w/all extensions for WM dev'tit was a freaking nightmare. They may have had easy installs and good docs in the past...but not so much anymore. I have like 20 bookmarks for WM apisnothing is in a single spot. Plus...like 20% of msoft links

RE: Making my app. appear on the Navigator menu

2007-09-25 Thread David Hazel
In the context of this thread, I would like to highlight one point of Thomas' in particular: > One thing Microsoft excels at is in documentation, example > code and support (you get what you are paying for ;-) I guess the reaction of some people to that will be "Oh, well, Microsoft have cash comi

wlancond and dbus

2007-09-25 Thread Gabriel Grise
Hi, Because i saw some questions about how to access to wlancond with dbus And because I had the same question last week, i decided to send to this list a code sample. This code sample simulate an "iwlist scan" call. I hope this will be useful for someone. Gabriel Grise from dbus.glib import * i

Re: WLAN connectivity using only wireless-tools

2007-09-25 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2007/9/25, Kalle Valo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > "ext Kalle Vahlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'm trying to construct myself a small rootfs that would boot up and > > connect to my (open) WLAN. > > I assume that you didn't modify initfs. Apart from installing bootmenu, no. It's the exact same

RE: Making my app. appear on the Navigator menu

2007-09-25 Thread David Hazel
Thanks for those pointers, Eero. That was the how-to that I began with when I first started trying to package up my application. I will go through it again once I've restructured my application to use the same directory structure as MaemoPad. The various explanations I've seen about how .desktop an

RE: Making my app. appear on the Navigator menu

2007-09-25 Thread David Hazel
>> So you'd prefer me not to explain my problem as clearly and fully as >> possible? That'll help a lot, won't it? >> > > break your question into pieces, it will definitely encourage people > reading and answering :) I've tried that. It doesn't work. At best, I get an answer to the first question

RE: Making my app. appear on the Navigator menu

2007-09-25 Thread David Hazel
Hi Thomas, I really appreciate you taking the time and trouble to offer your words of support here. I haven't had time to read your email in full yet (I've just got back from walking the dog!), but I will. It's felt very lonely here, on occasions, while I've been banging my head against brick wal

A couple of questions...

2007-09-25 Thread Tim
All, I submitted these questions to the User's group a while back, but I never got an adequate response (if any). I was wodering if anyone here could shed some light... Questions about the maemo dictionay:*Why doesn't the dictionary allow us to store email

Re: Making my app. appear on the Navigator menu

2007-09-25 Thread Thomas D. Waelti
I can really feel with David, as I encountered exactly the same issues when developing mClock during the last few weeks. While the N800 motivated me enough to plunge into Linux development, some issues around the Hildon Dekstop and D-Bus were indeed extremely frustrating. >> The problem I'm havi

I need some help in Installing Xephyr on Red Hat Linus 4.0

2007-09-25 Thread Mudit Niranjan Gupta
Hello Friends - I want to Install Xephyr on Red Hat Linux 4.0. I have already completed the setup for scratchbox installation and Maemo 3.1 and Maemo 3.2 in order to install Xephyr. I have few questions and would greatly appreciate if someone will help me in this area. The reason I wanted Xephy

Re: Making my app. appear on the Navigator menu

2007-09-25 Thread Gregory 'guardian' Pakosz
> So you'd prefer me not to explain my problem as clearly and fully as > possible? That'll help a lot, won't it? > break your question into pieces, it will definitely encourage people reading and answering :) > And by the occasional Nokia person, with presumably a commercial interest in > making

Re: Making my app. appear on the Navigator menu

2007-09-25 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext David Hazel wrote: > Hi Eero, > > Thanks for that suggestion. I'll give it a try and see what it tells me. What to do with the .desktop file seems to be mentioned here: http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/creating_a_debian_package.html But I think the howto here (whic

Re: Hibernation of applications during ptrace

2007-09-25 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Philip Van Hoof wrote: >> Desktop kills only applications that have announced themselves to be >> killable. Application should do that only when they've saved state, >> are in the background (i.e. not interacting with the user) and able >> to restore the state when restarted. I.e. it wo

Re: Ideas for Diablo and Elephanta

2007-09-25 Thread Mike Lococo
Graham Cobb wrote: > On Monday 24 September 2007 05:14, Quim Gil wrote: >> Hi, until now we have gathered some ideas about *platform* improvements, >> but nothing about the *developer platform* itself: are you totally happy >> about the SDK and the developer tools? Enhancement proposals for >> repo

RE: Making my app. appear on the Navigator menu

2007-09-25 Thread David Hazel
> i suggest you convert the energy you put in writing those long emails > into reading carefully So you'd prefer me not to explain my problem as clearly and fully as possible? That'll help a lot, won't it? > if you are unsure about the directory structure and you have no real > reason to change i

Re: Hibernation of applications during ptrace

2007-09-25 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 19:23 +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote: > Hi, > Desktop kills only applications that have announced themselves to be > killable. Application should do that only when they've saved state, > are in the background (i.e. not interacting with the user) and able > to restore the state

RE: Making my app. appear on the Navigator menu

2007-09-25 Thread David Hazel
Hi Eero, Thanks for that suggestion. I'll give it a try and see what it tells me. David Hazel -Original Message- From: Eero Tamminen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 September 2007 17:00 To: ext David Hazel Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: Re: Making my app. appear on the Navig

Re: Ideas for Diablo and Elephanta

2007-09-25 Thread Graham Cobb
On Monday 24 September 2007 05:14, Quim Gil wrote: > Hi, until now we have gathered some ideas about *platform* improvements, > but nothing about the *developer platform* itself: are you totally happy > about the SDK and the developer tools? Enhancement proposals for > repositories, documentation,

Re: Hibernation of applications during ptrace

2007-09-25 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Philip Van Hoof wrote: > As debugging info I usually get something like this: > > ... > hildon-desktop[25510]: GLIB DEBUG default - computing hibernation key > > hildon-desktop[25510]: GLIB DEBUG default - hibernation key: appname > ... > hildon-desktop[25510]: GLIB D

Re: Hibernation of applications during ptrace

2007-09-25 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 18:55 +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote: > You're just not pressing the "Enter" one more time after you type > "cont"? If your application crashes, the enter waiting in Gdb > readline buffer will then cause Gdb immediately to repeat the previous > command and continue the process (

Re: Making my app. appear on the Navigator menu

2007-09-25 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext David Hazel wrote: > write a new application to maemo 3.x" instructions. Also, I'm unsure > whether I'm supposed to set up a Makefile.am script to ensure that > "something" gets done with the .desktop and .service files. Do these get > automatically recognised and dealt with, or do I have

Re: Hibernation of applications during ptrace

2007-09-25 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Philip Van Hoof wrote: > Hi there hackers! > > While I'm debugging my application using gdb, I noticed that in both > Scratchbox for intel, Scratchbox for ARM and on the device certain > things in the Maemo platform decide that the application is hibernating, > or ... something. > > It s

Re: Making my app. appear on the Navigator menu

2007-09-25 Thread Gregory 'guardian' Pakosz
> The problem I'm having now is understanding what I'm supposed to do to > fix this. Having looked at all of the documentation I've listed above, I > began reading the How To titled "How to write a new application to maemo > 3.x". This appears to show a completely different folder hierarchy to > th

Re: WLAN connectivity using only wireless-tools

2007-09-25 Thread Kalle Valo
"ext Kalle Vahlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm trying to construct myself a small rootfs that would boot up and > connect to my (open) WLAN. I assume that you didn't modify initfs. > For this I'd very much like to avoid any unneccesary and/or closed > bits, so I thought no prob, I'll just

Making my app. appear on the Navigator menu

2007-09-25 Thread David Hazel
I have my application written, and I've tested it and verified that it is working properly, so now I'm trying to build a package that will install under the Application Manager. I've read the Debian New Maintainers' Guide, and the How To titled "Making a package for the Application Manager in maemo

Hibernation of applications during ptrace

2007-09-25 Thread Philip Van Hoof
Hi there hackers! While I'm debugging my application using gdb, I noticed that in both Scratchbox for intel, Scratchbox for ARM and on the device certain things in the Maemo platform decide that the application is hibernating, or ... something. It seems to be the reason why while I'm debugging my

Re: problem starting Maemo UI in X window

2007-09-25 Thread Miko Nieminen
Hi, it seems that your target isn't set up properly. You can recreate the target like this: Host# scratchbox [sbox-SDK_PC: ~] sb-conf setup -c cs2005q3.2-glibc-i386 -d perl:debian-sarge:maemo3-tools:doctools:maemo3-debian -f [sbox-SDK_PC: ~] sb-conf rootstrap /path/to/maemo-sdk-rootstrap_3.2_i386

OpenML on Maemo

2007-09-25 Thread Gottfried F. Zojer
Hallo to all, Just wondering if someone is working on anything what uses OpenML. Any feedback welcome Regards Gottfried ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers

Re: Ideas for Diablo and Elephanta: OpenEmbedded

2007-09-25 Thread Sebastian Mancke
Ok, I only saw the replacement approach in mamona and didn't know the the long term goal to align with maemo, Rodrigo told. This makes sense to me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > Mamona will be more useful and successful if it serves properly maemo > developers like Sebastian. I'm sure the INdT gu