Re: [maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...

2006-05-04 Thread Joe LaPenna
I've also seen a problem where my battery drains overnight, with the cover on and wifi not running (60 minute timeout or manually disabling it) This happens not often enough to be a real issue, but frequently enough that I notice it. On 5/3/06, Michael P. Lococo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > O

Re: [maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...

2006-05-03 Thread Michael P. Lococo
>> > One time it was drained when I had the audio player opened. I had it >> > play a part of an audio book and didn't bother to close the cover >> > after it was finished, just left it lying next to my bed. The next >> > morning it was powered off and the battery empty. This happened only >> > onc

Re: [maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...

2006-05-03 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, >> It would help to know which sw you are running: is it vanilla or are >> you using a custom set of packages? > > It doesn't happen too often, but 90% of the time I'm probably running > just fbreader in full screen mode when I slide the case on. > I have installed xterm, vim, ssh, and a few

Re: [maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...

2006-05-03 Thread Chris Bare
> > but other times I've just found it in the off > > state when I know I left it on, and the batter still had a charge. > It would help to know which sw you are running: is it vanilla or are you > using a custom set of packages? It doesn't happen too often, but 90% of the time I'm probably runnin

Re: [maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...

2006-05-03 Thread Martin Mueller
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:37:41PM +0300, Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere) wrote: > > So, when reporting this kind of problems, please *clearly* state whether > you're having problems with the device powering off or with reboots. > They are generally two completely disjoint sets of problems. I

Re: [maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...

2006-05-03 Thread Martin Mueller
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:43:51PM +0300, Amit Kucheria wrote: > On Wed, 2006-05-03 at 11:21 +0200, ext Martin Mueller wrote: > > > > One time it was drained when I had the audio player opened. I had it > > play a part of an audio book and didn't bother to close the cover > > after it was finished

Re: [maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...

2006-05-03 Thread Nils Faerber
Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere) wrote: > On ons, 2006-05-03 at 11:15 +0200, ext Martin Mueller wrote: > It should be noted that there is a big difference between poweroff > and reboot. If the device reboots, it is very likely a software error; > usually triggered by memory leaks or system essent

Re: [maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...

2006-05-03 Thread Amit Kucheria
On Wed, 2006-05-03 at 11:21 +0200, ext Martin Mueller wrote: > On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 11:37:54AM +0300, Amit Kucheria wrote: > > > > Is the battery drained at this point when you get it to power on again? > > Any particular applications that you keep running when this happens? > > One time it wa

Re: [maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...

2006-05-03 Thread Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere)
On ons, 2006-05-03 at 11:15 +0200, ext Martin Mueller wrote: > On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 12:01:43PM +0300, Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere) > wrote: > > > > Oh, one more thing: did you restore any backups, or was the device > > completely standard except for that xterm? > > It reboots about every

Re: [maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...

2006-05-03 Thread Martin Mueller
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 11:37:54AM +0300, Amit Kucheria wrote: > > Is the battery drained at this point when you get it to power on again? > Any particular applications that you keep running when this happens? One time it was drained when I had the audio player opened. I had it play a part of an

Re: [maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...

2006-05-03 Thread Martin Mueller
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 12:01:43PM +0300, Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere) wrote: > > Oh, one more thing: did you restore any backups, or was the device > completely standard except for that xterm? It reboots about every second day without installing anything except xterm and copying over the o

Re: [maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...

2006-05-03 Thread Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere)
On ons, 2006-05-03 at 09:42 +0200, ext Nils Faerber wrote: > Martin Mueller wrote: > > Hi, > Wup! > > > On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 01:59:32PM +0200, Nils Faerber wrote: > >> Does anybody else see this happening? > > Yes, me. > > Ah, puh, at least I am not alone ;) > > >> Are there any hints on wha

Re: [maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...

2006-05-03 Thread Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere)
On ons, 2006-05-03 at 09:42 +0200, ext Nils Faerber wrote: > Martin Mueller wrote: > > Hi, > Wup! > > > On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 01:59:32PM +0200, Nils Faerber wrote: > >> Does anybody else see this happening? > > Yes, me. > > Ah, puh, at least I am not alone ;) > > >> Are there any hints on wha

Re: [maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...

2006-05-03 Thread Igor Stoppa
Hi, On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 10:49 -0400, ext Chris Bare wrote: > > I am wondering if this is a hardware or software fault? > > > > Does anybody else see this happening? > > Are there any hints on what might be tha cause? > > And especially if this can be fixed? > > > > I too have seen mysterious p

Re: [maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...

2006-05-03 Thread Kalle Vahlman
On 5/3/06, Amit Kucheria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [suspicious shutdowns] I assume that you have ensured you do not leave the device in R&D mode. Just a note on this: R&D mode has only the notorious power draining effect if the serial console is enabled (which AFAIK is not by default). -- Kal

Re: [maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...

2006-05-03 Thread Amit Kucheria
On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 13:59 +0200, ext Nils Faerber wrote: > Hi! > For some time now I see power downs of the device for no reason. > It seems to happen over night. > When I come back next morning the device is full off, when pressing the > power button it starts to boot normally. The battery has n

Re: [maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...

2006-05-03 Thread Nils Faerber
Martin Mueller wrote: > Hi, Wup! > On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 01:59:32PM +0200, Nils Faerber wrote: >> Does anybody else see this happening? > Yes, me. Ah, puh, at least I am not alone ;) >> Are there any hints on what might be tha cause? > It happened to my device when I had a lot of 3rd-party pa

Re: [maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...

2006-05-02 Thread Chris Bare
> I am wondering if this is a hardware or software fault? > > Does anybody else see this happening? > Are there any hints on what might be tha cause? > And especially if this can be fixed? > I too have seen mysterious power downs. So far I haven't been able to detect a pattern. Sometimes I've pl

Re: [maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...

2006-05-02 Thread Martin Mueller
Hi, On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 01:59:32PM +0200, Nils Faerber wrote: > > Does anybody else see this happening? Yes, me. > Are there any hints on what might be tha cause? It happened to my device when I had a lot of 3rd-party packages installed. I reflashed it from scratch and did only install xt

[maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...

2006-05-02 Thread Nils Faerber
Hi! For some time now I see power downs of the device for no reason. It seems to happen over night. When I come back next morning the device is full off, when pressing the power button it starts to boot normally. The battery has never been the fault (i.e. not empty). Yesterday it happened again and