[maemo-users] Request for adjustments/changes to maemo repositories.

2007-01-10 Thread James Sparenberg
All, I'm starting to see the effects of the wholesale switch to the 800. python2-5 runtimes are listed as available in the app manager when it seems they are actually for the 800 not the 770. Fortunately this has enough dependencies that it won't install. (I live dangerously and know that

Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java

2007-01-10 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 07:11, Wahlau - wrote: > Hi, > > i have so far only tried some simple java binaries, and they somehow > worked (pretty well) as far as i am concerned. > > i have however not tested/tried about any plugin for browser... have > no blinking idea about this at all.. anyone

Re: [maemo-users] On-connect event

2007-01-10 Thread Joel Gwynn
Thanks, Graham! The reason I asked is that I'm a little paranoid about losing my new friend, either through carelessness or malice, so I wanted to tell him to run a script whenever he connects to the net; it sends the IP address and mac address to a CGI script which records them for future refere

Re: [maemo-users] N800: RS-MMC and mini-SD

2007-01-10 Thread Laurent GUERBY
I went ahead and my 1GB kingston RS-MMC + adapter worked fine when I plugged it in the internal slot. Created 128MB of swap on it, no problem after a few hours of use. N800 feels much more responsive than N770 :). Laurent http://guerby.org/blog/ On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 17:13 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTE

[maemo-users] Opera 8 on N800 query

2007-01-10 Thread Roger Sperberg
I've been working on a browser plugin-combined-with-special-stylesheet[1] that enables long text reading online to more closely resemble use of an e-reader. Unfortunately, the Opera for Devices version in the 770 doesn't permit this approach. Does anyone know where I can find the differences ide

RE: Nokia return/refund policy [ was Re: [maemo-users] ITOS 2007]

2007-01-10 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
> Where do you find it? > I found 7 days ( 14 in some country ) Under the terms I had to agree to before purchasing the N800. Regards, Nick Shaw MAJ, US Army Retired IBA # 11140 Lifetime HOG Member www.DocHarley.com -Original Message- From: Michele De Candia Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Nokia return/refund policy [ was Re: [maemo-users] ITOS 2007]

2007-01-10 Thread Miles Fidelman
I'm in a similar boat. I bought my 770 about 4 months ago, so I'm now stuck with an obsolete unit. I'm reminded that back when Apple was making the Newton, they offered early purchasers an exchange policy when the newer models came out - it wasn't free, but it was reasonable, and motivated me

Re: Nokia return/refund policy [ was Re: [maemo-users] ITOS 2007]

2007-01-10 Thread Brian Spindel
In addition to these justified concerns about reliability and warranty, I understand that we [SHOULD] have an issue with lack of ongoing support. Threads earlier today seem to say that Nokia is now focused entirely on development and support for the N880, and that I'll soon be a not-so-proud o

Re: Nokia return/refund policy [ was Re: [maemo-users] ITOS 2007]

2007-01-10 Thread Acadia Secure Networks
Nick, that is not a warranty policy however. At the price of the 770 or N800 for that matter, Nokia should do better on its hardware support, especially since it supports direct sales from its www site. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GGSC-0100

Re: Nokia return/refund policy [ was Re: [maemo-users] ITOS 2007]

2007-01-10 Thread Acadia Secure Networks
Drew, not to mention the real opportunity cost of your time dealing with the problem (minutes or hours of your life that you will not get back). With respect to its PDA phones Verizon Wireless has a policy of shipping out a new unit with an RMA for the old (to be returned) unit to get the cu

RE: Nokia return/refund policy [ was Re: [maemo-users] ITOS 2007]

2007-01-10 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
According to the Nokia web site, you have 30 days to return the product if it doesn't meet your needs. Nick Shaw MAJ, US Army Retired IBA # 11140 Lifetime HOG Member www.DocHarley.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Drew Moseley Sent: W

Nokia return/refund policy [ was Re: [maemo-users] ITOS 2007]

2007-01-10 Thread Drew Moseley
> > My 770 has 2 weeks and I'm going to have a device with no more support. I'm > very disappointed Just another warning about these devices and the "warranty" service. I purchased a 770 in December 2005. I was having issues with the wireless dropping unless I keep a streaming audio source runn

Re: [maemo-users] Battery Benchmarking?

2007-01-10 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, Igor Stoppa wrote: How can I work around this? *Don't do unnecessary stuff *Don't poll *Don't busyloop *Check system state (by listening for events, again, never poll) *Keep updates at minimum *Do updates only if your application is visible, otherwise completely stop updating the UI till yo

Re: [maemo-users] N800: RS-MMC and mini-SD

2007-01-10 Thread laurent
Thanks ! Is this use validated by Nokia (I haven't had the time to read the N800 documentation yet) ? I don't want to fry my shiny new N800 or invalidate the warranty too quickly :). Laurent Selon Kimmo Hämäläinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 13:25 +0100, ext Laurent GUERBY wro

Re: [maemo-users] Battery Benchmarking?

2007-01-10 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 13:51 +0100, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: > Igor Stoppa wrote: > > Hi Tim! > > > > On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 19:07 +0100, ext Tim Teulings wrote: > >> How can I work around this? > > *Don't do unnecessary stuff > > *Don't poll > > *Don't busyloop > > *Check system state (by listeni

Re: [maemo-users] Re: Battery Benchmarking?

2007-01-10 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 13:35 +0100, ext Nicola Larosa wrote: > I do appreciate your post about kernel timers, polling, and app developer > responsibilities, and heartily hope you're being sarcastic here. Put > another way, who gives a [] about the fashion of the day? Look at it this way: Nokia

Re: [maemo-users] Battery Benchmarking?

2007-01-10 Thread Igor Stoppa
Hi, On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 15:35 +0100, ext Simon Budig wrote: [snip] > I guess in the future I'll have to use my mobile > web browser for phone calls as well. Hmm. Isn't canola using a webserver for a simple UI? :-( -- Cheers, Igor Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Nokia M - OSSO /Helsinki Fi

Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java

2007-01-10 Thread Wahlau -
Hi, i have so far only tried some simple java binaries, and they somehow worked (pretty well) as far as i am concerned. i have however not tested/tried about any plugin for browser... have no blinking idea about this at all.. anyone else? speed wise i can sense its lag (as compared to a centrin

Re: [maemo-users] Battery Benchmarking?

2007-01-10 Thread Simon Budig
Igor Stoppa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 12:15 +0100, ext Simon Budig wrote: > > The N800 has no equivalent. When you stop using it, its screen stays > > lighted for a while - "wasn't there something else you wanted to use me > > for?", it still demands a certain amount of att

Re: [maemo-users] N800: RS-MMC and mini-SD

2007-01-10 Thread Jonathan Greene
Nice! On 1/10/07, Kimmo Hämäläinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 13:25 +0100, ext Laurent GUERBY wrote: > Hi, > > Will the N800 read RS-MMC (those used by the N770)? Yes, it reads RS-MMC with the adapter that comes in the Nokia 770 sales box. (I just tested the Nokia 64MB RS-

Re: [maemo-users] N800: RS-MMC and mini-SD

2007-01-10 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 13:25 +0100, ext Laurent GUERBY wrote: > Hi, > > Will the N800 read RS-MMC (those used by the N770)? Yes, it reads RS-MMC with the adapter that comes in the Nokia 770 sales box. (I just tested the Nokia 64MB RS-MMC that also comes in the sales box.) BR; Kimmo > > Thanks i

Re: [maemo-users] Battery Benchmarking?

2007-01-10 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Igor Stoppa wrote: Hi Tim! On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 19:07 +0100, ext Tim Teulings wrote: How can I work around this? *Don't do unnecessary stuff *Don't poll *Don't busyloop *Check system state (by listening for events, again, never poll) *Keep updates at minimum *Do updates only if your applicati

[maemo-users] Re: Battery Benchmarking?

2007-01-10 Thread rael
Hello! What does that exactly mean (especially for non GTK-based applications like mine that cannot expect some GTK magic)? How can I work around this? Yes, screen blanked should be enough. Thank you for you in deep description! Things are much clearer now and besides DBus-handling I do

Re: [maemo-users] N800: RS-MMC and mini-SD

2007-01-10 Thread Jonathan Greene
Think it is just SD and mini sd ... But you get 2 slots! On 1/10/07, Laurent GUERBY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Will the N800 read RS-MMC (those used by the N770)? Thanks in advance, Laurent http://guerby.org/blog/ ___ maemo-users mailing list m

[maemo-users] Re: Battery Benchmarking?

2007-01-10 Thread Nicola Larosa
Igor Stoppa wrote: > No, the LED is off by default and the power-savvy user will wisely keep > it off and even switch it off if it gets accidentally enabled. > If you are more interested into running your device for longer time than > having that disco effect, keep it off. Full agreement on that.

RE: [maemo-users] Battery Benchmarking?

2007-01-10 Thread Amit.Kucheria
>>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Simon Budig >>Sent: 10 January, 2007 13:16 >>To: maemo-users@maemo.org >>Subject: Re: [maemo-users] Battery Benchmarking? >> >>I believe Nokia is missing a psychological factor here. Putting the >>c

[maemo-users] N800: RS-MMC and mini-SD

2007-01-10 Thread Laurent GUERBY
Hi, Will the N800 read RS-MMC (those used by the N770)? Thanks in advance, Laurent http://guerby.org/blog/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

RE: [maemo-users] Battery Benchmarking?

2007-01-10 Thread Amit.Kucheria
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Simon Budig >Sent: 10 January, 2007 13:16 >To: maemo-users@maemo.org >Subject: Re: [maemo-users] Battery Benchmarking? > >I believe Nokia is missing a psychological factor here. Putting the >cover on

[maemo-users] Re: Battery Benchmarking?

2007-01-10 Thread Nicola Larosa
Simon Budig wrote: > I believe Nokia is missing a psychological factor here. Putting the > cover on the 770 allows the user to forget about it. He finished using > it and it is kind of stored away safely, it won't distract him. That's exactly how I feel about it. > The N800 has no equivalent. Wh

Re: [maemo-users] Battery Benchmarking?

2007-01-10 Thread Igor Stoppa
Hi, On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 12:15 +0100, ext Simon Budig wrote: > Igor Stoppa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > [snipped helpful description of power saving] > > Also because N800 doesn't have a cover, but certainly that doesn't > > prevent us to do the very same power saving that was already available >

RE: [maemo-users] Battery Benchmarking?

2007-01-10 Thread Jakub.Pavelek
>At least these are my thoughts regarding the cover issue - it >is a psychological thing and I am a bit sad that Nokia >apparently abandoned this concept. Yep. N800 is "always connected" device, unless you go turn it off ;) --jakub ___ maemo-users mai

Re: [maemo-users] Battery Benchmarking?

2007-01-10 Thread Simon Budig
Igor Stoppa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [snipped helpful description of power saving] > Also because N800 doesn't have a cover, but certainly that doesn't > prevent us to do the very same power saving that was already available > on 770. :-D > > The cover would just be the cause for an _immediate_

Re: [maemo-users] Battery Benchmarking?

2007-01-10 Thread Igor Stoppa
Hi Tim! On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 19:07 +0100, ext Tim Teulings wrote: > Hello! > > > the apps you have installed are buggy and generate activity > > and i mean any type of activity, 1% CPU load is still too much: > > if the app is idle, it must have 0% CPU activity > > What does that exactly mean (

[maemo-users] Tool to get the Storage IDs of Certificates

2007-01-10 Thread Oliver Pahl
Hi, i am new to the List. My Name is Oliver and i am the proud owner of a N770 since last week. Now I have a question :) or more asking for a favor. In my school we connect to our network through a certificate. The Problem is, it is no user certificate and so i cant access it with the network mana

[maemo-users] gpe-mini-browser for maemo

2007-01-10 Thread Jorge Salamero Sanz
hi all, i've packaged gpe-mini-browser for maemo. you can find the packages in http://bencer.cauterized.net/nokia770/ *warning*: there are very very dirty and quick packages. this weekend i'll have much cleaner and well done packages in a repository. i'll try to make fresh packages from gpe sv

Re: [maemo-users] ITOS 2007

2007-01-10 Thread Mdecandia
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Re: [maemo-users] The difference between ARM and ARMEL packages

2007-01-10 Thread Michael Stepanov
On 1/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, you will need to rebuild those packages for IT-2006 (this should then work on IT-2007 too). ARMEL means a different binary ABI, the ARM software will not work on IT-2006/7. Changing package structure will not help, get it rebuilt unde