Re: Idea: Route Finder Service

2007-10-19 Thread Lars Persson Fink
Jonathan, glad you like my idea. Hopefully we can get some developer to like it too. :-) Yes, the Route Finder Service would be available through an API (via dbus) to all the system, but it would not be dependent on a GPS. My thought was that it would be possible to supply the service with a

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Krischan Keitsch
Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 schrieb Kalle Valo: > "ext Marius Gedminas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > You know what the killer feature is? Automatic wifi connection. I > > absolutely hate it when I have to tap the silly little globe, then tap > > the connect menu item, then wait a few boring s

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Marius Vollmer
"ext James Sparenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1. the "update packages" event. Every action requires that a full > on rescan of the system be done. Each one taking between 30 to 60 > seconds to complete. If it takes this long, you probably have the "Show all packages" option activated.

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Krischan Keitsch
Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 schrieb Frederic Crozat: > Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 12:11 +0200, Krischan Keitsch a écrit : > > Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 schrieb Frederic Crozat: > > > Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 11:59 +0300, Eero Tamminen a écrit : > > > > So, there shouldn't be any need fo

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 15:07 +0200, Tilman Vogel a écrit : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Frederic Crozat schrieb: > > And to do that, we need "expected to work but doesn't work" ogg support > > package. And unfortunately, neither mogg or ogg-support packages are in

Re: Cannot execute ARM binary in scratchbox

2007-10-19 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 03:18:29PM +0530, Sharath Mudalamane wrote: > I am trying to execute an arm binary on 386 using qemu-arm. I am unable to > execute the binary generated. Can anyone who is familiar with this, help me? > Please, see the logs to know what I have done. Please, correct me if hav

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Frédéric Crozat
Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 22:11 +0300, Marius Gedminas a écrit : > On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 04:26:07PM +, Steve Greenland wrote: > > According to James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Thursday 18 October 2007 11:30:34 Marius Gedminas wrote: > > > > I sincerely hope Maemo Extras re

Re: chinook

2007-10-19 Thread Acadia Secure Networks
Fred, I can't speak to your question with respect to the N810 since I don't have one yet. I can however, confirm that RDesktop does work on the N800 and I have used/tested it by VNC'ing into my N800 by means of TigntVNC running on Windows XP SP2 and used the rdesktop app on the N800 to manage,

Re: Idea: Route Finder Service

2007-10-19 Thread Lars Persson Fink
Hi, The excellent maemo mapper application can use both Google and OpenStreetMap as well as Microsoft Virtual Earth, possibly others. It also has a possibility to ask a web-service for a route between two locations. I see meamo mapper as a potential source of routes for the Route Finder Servic

Re: chinook

2007-10-19 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 12:59:09PM +0300, Quim Gil wrote: > http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/chinook/ > > Hum, almost empty. > > Mid November, this is when the first real customers are going to start > playing with Chinook. The N810 will come with the extras repository > preconfigured, use

Re: chinook

2007-10-19 Thread Jonathan Greene
perfect - no python means quite a few things just won't work... On 10/19/07, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 12:59:09PM +0300, Quim Gil wrote: > > http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/chinook/ > > > > Hum, almost empty. > > > > Mid November, this is when t

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Steve Greenland
According to Marius Vollmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > How important is it to fix this? I'm working on the assumption that > you would only activate "Show all packages" in an emergency, but would > usually leave it off (precisely because it decreases the useability so > much). The problem is that wh

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Steve Greenland
According to James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I fully understand what it's doing but not why it's doing it. Since the > act of doing the first update is the equivalent of "apt-get update" However > if you use Adept/Synaptic/dpkg etc the act of the update accumulates all of > this

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support and the repository question

2007-10-19 Thread Steve Greenland
According to Krischan Keitsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The optimum may be between the two - meaning we need some kind of > a quality management for the community efforts. To approve that > just verified and checked apps are in the official and universe > repositories. So that Jill Random and ourselve

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Steve Greenland
According to James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thursday 18 October 2007 11:30:34 Marius Gedminas wrote: > > I sincerely hope Maemo Extras rejects sourceless packages. > > > > Marius Gedminas > > Marius, > >I would hope that they reject binary packages period, in that like every >

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 15:14 +0300, Eero Tamminen a écrit : > Hi, > > ext Krischan Keitsch wrote: > >>> - mediaplayer not playing the file > >> I think the problem is here, unfortunately :( > >> > >> Developper documentation is a little too scarce about media player, > >> unfortunately.> .

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 11:32 +0300, Kalle Valo a écrit : > "ext Marius Gedminas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > You know what the killer feature is? Automatic wifi connection. I > > absolutely hate it when I have to tap the silly little globe, then tap > > the connect menu item, then w

Re: N810: any AZERTY keyboard?

2007-10-19 Thread Jean-Christian de Rivaz
Marius Vollmer a écrit : > "ext Jean-Christian de Rivaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>Interresting, I missed this very important point, thanks for the >>info. I am Swiss French and I will buy the N810 as soon as possible, >>but I wonder what keyboard will be on the version buyable in >>Switz

Re: N810: any AZERTY keyboard?

2007-10-19 Thread Marius Vollmer
"ext Jean-Christian de Rivaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Interresting, I missed this very important point, thanks for the > info. I am Swiss French and I will buy the N810 as soon as possible, > but I wonder what keyboard will be on the version buyable in > Switzerland as the standard Keyboard

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 12:11 +0200, Krischan Keitsch a écrit : > Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 schrieb Frederic Crozat: > > Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 11:59 +0300, Eero Tamminen a écrit : > > > So, there shouldn't be any need for any Maemo specific specs, these > > > things are documented

Re: N810: any AZERTY keyboard?

2007-10-19 Thread Laurent MARTIN
The N810 will be available in a French AZERTY version. For the complete list of hardware variants, see "Language support" at: http://www.nseries.com/nseries/v3/media/sections/products/ tech_specs/en-R1/tech_specs_n810_en_R1.html Excellent! Thank you, Tomas. -- Laurent, Nantes (FR) - http://blo

Re: chinook

2007-10-19 Thread Quim Gil
http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/chinook/ Hum, almost empty. Mid November, this is when the first real customers are going to start playing with Chinook. The N810 will come with the extras repository preconfigured, users will only need to activate it manually. downloads.maemo.org is going

Re: N810: any AZERTY keyboard?

2007-10-19 Thread Jean-Christian de Rivaz
Tomas Junnonen a écrit : > ext Laurent MARTIN wrote: > The N810 will be available in a French AZERTY version. For the complete > list of hardware variants, see "Language support" at: > http://www.nseries.com/nseries/v3/media/sections/products/tech_specs/en-R1/tech_specs_n810_en_R1.html Interrestin

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 11:59 +0300, Eero Tamminen a écrit : > So, there shouldn't be any need for any Maemo specific specs, these > things are documented in upstream projects. There should still be > a tutorial how to do these things though. Tutorial is already available in Maemo 3.x SDK

Re: N810 is here (touch screen)

2007-10-19 Thread Eero Tamminen
ext Alan Williamson wrote: > Maybe a silly question, but is the N810 still a touch screen device? Yes. - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: N810: any AZERTY keyboard?

2007-10-19 Thread Tomas Junnonen
ext Laurent MARTIN wrote: > Hi! > When the N810 will be available in France, will it be shipped with an > AZERTY keyboard or will it stay with its current QWERTY one? > OK, I agree that QWERTY is much more powerful for system/development > purposes but my contacts are nearly all French and I need e

Re: N810 is here (touch screen)

2007-10-19 Thread Alan Williamson
Maybe a silly question, but is the N810 still a touch screen device? -- Alan Williamson "a wiki -and- a blog" @ http://www.Blog-City.com/ b: http://alan.blog-city.com/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailma

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Krischan Keitsch wrote: > Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 schrieben Sie: >> ext Krischan Keitsch wrote: >>> Am Mittwoch, 17. Oktober 2007 schrieb Collin R. Mulliner: OGG is only a nerd feature and also has other problems, so Nokia (and other companies) just don't care. Maybe somebod

N810: any AZERTY keyboard?

2007-10-19 Thread Laurent MARTIN
Hi! When the N810 will be available in France, will it be shipped with an AZERTY keyboard or will it stay with its current QWERTY one? OK, I agree that QWERTY is much more powerful for system/development purposes but my contacts are nearly all French and I need easy access to éèçà... charact

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Krischan Keitsch
Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 schrieben Sie: > Hi, > > ext Krischan Keitsch wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 17. Oktober 2007 schrieb Collin R. Mulliner: > >> OGG is only a nerd feature and also has other problems, so Nokia (and > >> other companies) just don't care. Maybe somebody can make a plugin (also >

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Kalle Valo
"ext Marius Gedminas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You know what the killer feature is? Automatic wifi connection. I > absolutely hate it when I have to tap the silly little globe, then tap > the connect menu item, then wait a few boring seconds for my wifi network > to appear, then press ok.

Re: how to turn off and lock the n800 (answer)

2007-10-19 Thread Laurent MARTIN
So recapitulating, for those who were asking how to do it: * When the PowerKeyShortAction=softpoweroff the keys are locked * When the PowerKeyLongAction=softpoweroff the keys are NOT locked Wait, wait, wait ;-) As far as I've tested it on my N800, setpoweroff locks the keys and the screen in bot

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Krischan Keitsch wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 17. Oktober 2007 schrieb Collin R. Mulliner: >> OGG is only a nerd feature and also has other problems, so Nokia (and >> other companies) just don't care. Maybe somebody can make a plugin (also >> this won't utilize the DSP). >> > I don't agree with o

RE: External Monitor with N800

2007-10-19 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
Kalle, Thank you! I think I'll give it a shot. If it works, great and I'll post the results. If it doesn't, lesson learned and I'll still post the results. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kalle Valo Sent: Wednesday, October 17,

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 11:32:12AM +0300, Kalle Valo wrote: > "ext Marius Gedminas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I could keep my tablet online all the time, of course, but then the > > battery wouldn't last till the end of the day. > > It should stay online for days, not hours. I didn't mean t

Re: Idea: Route Finder Service

2007-10-19 Thread Jonathan Greene
Please don't hate for suggesting non-open source ideas ... ;) If we had a native google maps application it would take of quite a few of these needs... The new native app on Symbian is really excellent and integrates really nicely in the N95. I wonder if there are any lurkers here from Google...

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Tilman Vogel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frederic Crozat schrieb: > And to do that, we need "expected to work but doesn't work" ogg support > package. And unfortunately, neither mogg or ogg-support packages are in > this state for n800 (one lack schema and the other is not registering > the c

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Krischan Keitsch wrote: >>> - mediaplayer not playing the file >> I think the problem is here, unfortunately :( >> >> Developper documentation is a little too scarce about media player, >> unfortunately.> . > > Unfortunately. Am I wrong when I identify the missing source of the media >

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Marius Vollmer
"ext Steve Greenland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> (In other words, it is conservative when removing things. Not like >> aptitude that goes and deletes half your OS if you are not careful.. >> :) > > Aww, cmon, this is mostly fixed in aptitude these days. Besides, it made > life exciting! Yep,

Re: N810 is here (ogg support)

2007-10-19 Thread Krischan Keitsch
Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 schrieb Frederic Crozat: > Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 à 11:59 +0300, Eero Tamminen a écrit : > > So, there shouldn't be any need for any Maemo specific specs, these > > things are documented in upstream projects. There should still be > > a tutorial how to do these th

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thursday 18 October 2007 20:01:36 Steve Greenland wrote: > According to James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > a. open AM > > b. get asked if I want to update package lists. > > c. click to browse installable packages. > > d. wait for update packages (why it just did an u

Re: N810 is here

2007-10-19 Thread Krischan Keitsch
Am Mittwoch, 17. Oktober 2007 schrieb Collin R. Mulliner: > > OGG is only a nerd feature and also has other problems, so Nokia (and > other companies) just don't care. Maybe somebody can make a plugin (also > this won't utilize the DSP). > I don't agree with ogg = nerd feature. Linux as an open and

Re: Idea: Route Finder Service

2007-10-19 Thread Henri Bergius
On 10/19/07, Lars Persson Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My thought was that it would be possible to supply the service with a > source and a destination address and have respond with a route and > information about the route, for instance the estimated time. The Route > Finder Service could the

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Steve Greenland
According to Marius Vollmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > "ext Marius Gedminas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > My personal pet peeve with the app manager is all those confirmation > > dialogs. > > Yeah, and there will be more in the future... There should be at > least one before starting the opera

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread dave
> > > It should stay online for days, not hours. Something is wrong with > your setup. I would guess that the AP is somehow broken regards to > WLAN Power Save Mode. Can you try with some other AP to see if it > helps? Also make sure that N800 isn't transmitting anything extra, for > example transm

Cannot execute ARM binary in scratchbox

2007-10-19 Thread Sharath Mudalamane
TO: Maemo Users FROM: Sharath Mudalamane Subject: [Cannot execute ARM binary in scratchbox] Hello, I am trying to execute an arm binary on 386 using qemu-arm. I am unable to execute the binary generated. Can anyone who is familiar with this, help me?

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Marius Vollmer
"ext Marius Gedminas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My personal pet peeve with the app manager is all those confirmation > dialogs. Yeah, and there will be more in the future... There should be at least one before starting the operation, and we can't get rid of the legal "Notice" dialog for non-

Re: chinook

2007-10-19 Thread Jonathan Greene
Only thing I saw in the repository was Open SSH which I installed. FBReader installed fine too using the one-click file with the new release. Unable to install ScummVM. Not sure why, that's the error that I got upon loading the .deb that was linked earlier. Term was pre-installed and procinfo w

Re: Steve's Ranty Review #1: N800 ogg support

2007-10-19 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 04:26:07PM +, Steve Greenland wrote: > According to James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Thursday 18 October 2007 11:30:34 Marius Gedminas wrote: > > > I sincerely hope Maemo Extras rejects sourceless packages. > > > >I would hope that they reject binary pac