N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Eugene Antimirov
Hi everyone! I'm sure all of you are eager to look at the newest N900. Here is the first review of the device by Eldar Murtazin, Russian mobile columnist. In English - http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-rx51-n900-en.shtml Russian version - http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-rx51-n90

Re:N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Antonio Di Cello
In Italian - http://rafanto.net/anteprima-nokia-n900-rx-51-con-maemo-5/ Sincerely, rafanto > Hi everyone! > > I'm sure all of you are eager to look at the newest N900. Here is the > first review of the device by Eldar Murtazin, Russian mobile > columnist. > > In English - http://www.mobile-re

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Kevin T. Neely
I have to say, I'm pretty excited about the N900. That looks like Canola in the pictures. If they integrated that into the base system, the Maemo team did a very smart thing there. Looking forward to hearing more about it from Nokia World.announcements. K On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Anton

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Adilson Oliveira
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Em 20-08-2009 14:32, Kevin T. Neely escreveu: > I have to say, I'm pretty excited about the N900. That looks like > Canola in the pictures. If they integrated that into the base system, > the Maemo team did a very smart thing there. > Some time ago

RE: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
One thing concerns me based upon earlier reviews - it appears that the size of the screen will be smaller. That may not be a big issue as it appears from the pictures that Nokia is utilizing the space better than the 810. Only time will tell. It also looks like they've added capabilities (such as

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Gary
Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: > Now, if AT&T has the N900 when it comes out I'll be set. If not, I'll keep > using my N810. :-) > My guess is that -- like their other mobile phone products -- if you buy direct from Nokia it won't be carrier locked. -Gary ___

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Erik Hovland
> Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: >> Now, if AT&T has the N900 when it comes out I'll be set.  If not, I'll keep >> using my N810. :-) >> > > My guess is that -- like their other mobile phone products -- if you buy > direct from Nokia it won't be carrier locked. That is all well and good. But T-Mobile is

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Cassio Gomes
I´m worried about the elder versions, like N8x0, that became very popular in Brazil. Will Maemo 5 support 'em and bring us more development teams, doin' basic useful stuff like a text editor and makin' N8x0 better? Now, I see it as a great gadget, but it´s too limited due the lack of softwares made

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 20:11, Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: > > I'm hoping that they've added the ability to select 12/24-hour time. No need to hope, that's been known for a *long* time (over a year in fact): https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=303 And, more specifically: "The clock conf

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 20:21, Cassio Gomes wrote: > > I´m worried about the elder versions, like N8x0, that became very popular in > Brazil. > Will Maemo 5 support 'em and bring us more development teams, doin' basic > useful stuff like a text editor and makin' N8x0 better? No, the hardware advan

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Mark
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Cassio Gomes wrote: > I´m worried about the elder versions, like N8x0, that became very popular in > Brazil. > Will Maemo 5 support 'em and bring us more development teams, doin' basic > useful stuff like a text editor and makin' N8x0 better? > Now, I see it as a gr

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Eugene Antimirov wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'm sure all of you are eager to look at the newest N900. Here is the > first review of the device by Eldar Murtazin, Russian mobile > columnist. > > In English - http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-rx51-n900-en.sht

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Jason Edgecombe
Erik Hovland wrote: >> Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: >> >>> Now, if AT&T has the N900 when it comes out I'll be set. If not, I'll keep >>> using my N810. :-) >>> >>> >> My guess is that -- like their other mobile phone products -- if you buy >> direct from Nokia it won't be carrier locked.

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Mark
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Andrew Flegg wrote: > Well, since Mer's based on Ubuntu, thousands of packags are only an > apt-get away... > This is propaganda and a myth. Sure, you may be able to _install_ apps from the Ubuntu repository, but whether they'll be usable on the device (or even run)

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Donnerstag, den 20.08.2009, 13:28 -0600 schrieb Mark: > No, and when Maemo X comes along, they'll be abandoning N900 owners > just like they _already_ have N770 and N8x0 owners. Once they leave > the factory, any further software development for the tablets is left > up to "the community"... Wh

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Mark
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > Looks very exciting. I remember telling on this very same list that what > killed the Nxx tablet series was basically that it lacked a GSM radio, in > other words, a phone. Hence the device didn't "fit" Nokia's product line, as > the "phon

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Mark
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 20.08.2009, 13:28 -0600 schrieb Mark: >> No, and when Maemo X comes along, they'll be abandoning N900 owners >> just like they _already_ have N770 and N8x0 owners. Once they leave >> the factory, any further software develop

RE: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
Yes, I know but they haven't "fixed" it in the past (I remember the discussion when the N800 came out) so I'm hoping they will in 5.0. :-) Nick. -Original Message- From: afl...@gmail.com [mailto:afl...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Flegg Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:23 PM To: Dr. Ni

RE: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
Unlocked would be good and would, I suspect, resolve the issue. Thanks! Nick. -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:14 PM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: N900/Maemo 5 revie

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Mark wrote: > > Good luck with that. The processing power on these things is > deliberately modest, at least partly because there is a very valid > power conservation issue, and Java can be sluggish even on a fast PC. > This is a myth. I've run Java apps on ARM

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Gary
Jason Edgecombe wrote: > I prefer Verizon's coverage area, but they don't do GSM, :( Not yet. They're already working on a hybrid EV-DO/HSPA modem (http://tr.im/nX3C) and are moving fast on building out their HSPA buildout (http://tr.im/nX47). I've also read that some test markets will be in place

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Scott
Is there any chance that the "new" OS for the N900 would run or be available for the N8x0 crowd? This seems similar to the relationship of the Apple iTouch to the iPhone where they can both run the same OS, just one is missing the phone and other minor features. -- Scott Novice user of a d

RE: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
Nope. Won't run and won't be available. Nick. -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Scott Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:39 PM To: maemo-users users; maemo-commun...@maemo.org Subject: Re: N900/Maemo 5 review Is th

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 21:39, Scott wrote: > > Is there any chance that the "new" OS for the N900 would run or be > available for the N8x0 crowd? No. You've four choices: 1) Keep Diablo. 2) Use and support Mer: http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer (which can be considered a backport of parts of Fr

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Mark
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Mark wrote: >> >> Good luck with that. The processing power on these things is >> deliberately modest, at least partly because there is a very valid >> power conservation issue, and Java can be sluggish

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 20:58, Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: > > Yes, I know but they haven't "fixed" it in the past (I remember the > discussion when the N800 came out) so I'm hoping they will in 5.0. :-) I know there's a smiley, but there's enough confusion on maemo-users anyway, so I'm going to corr

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Mark
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Gary wrote: > Jason Edgecombe wrote: >> I prefer Verizon's coverage area, but they don't do GSM, :( > > Not yet. They're already working on a hybrid EV-DO/HSPA modem > (http://tr.im/nX3C) and are moving fast on building out their HSPA > buildout (http://tr.im/nX47).

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Mark
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Andrew Flegg wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 21:39, Scott wrote: >> >> Is there any chance that the "new" OS for the N900 would run or be >> available for the N8x0 crowd? > > No. You've four choices: > >  1) Keep Diablo. >  2) Use and support Mer: http://wiki.maemo

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Peter Flynn
Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: > One thing concerns me based upon earlier reviews - it appears that the size > of the screen will be smaller. That may not be a big issue as it appears > from the pictures that Nokia is utilizing the space better than the 810. > Only time will tell. It also looks like th

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Peter Flynn
Mark wrote: [...] > As with anything, it depends on the app. Sure, small, light apps > designed for cellphones will run on anything. But "real" Java apps are > quite different. I can assure you that the Java apps that run > sluggishly on my current desktop workstation will not even begin to > run o

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Attila Csipa
On Thursday 20 August 2009 23:23:16 Mark wrote: > I personally am growing very weary of > non-hot-swappable slots in devices. There really is no justification > for that PITA. It's just one of many reasons I'll never give up my > N800 for an N810. The N810 has a fully hot swappable slot, it will

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread sean
I wonder if Mer run on this upcoming device? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Gary
Mark wrote: > That's an excuse (and a poor one), not a reason. When they never get > around to actually finishing the OS or software for the N9X0, you'll > be hearing "I told you so"... > Mobile processors are is going through upgrade cycles much faster than the desktop and server processor mar

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Attila Csipa
On Thursday 20 August 2009 23:29:21 Peter Flynn wrote: > It doesn't look like the camera can be used backwards like the N800's > pop-out one. That was crippled by lack of software; presumably this one > is usable with Skype etc, but a pity if it can't be used as a webcam. Based on the preview, the

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Mark wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Mark wrote: > >> > >> Good luck with that. The processing power on these things is > >> deliberately modest, at least partly because there is a very

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Attila Csipa
On Thursday 20 August 2009 23:42:55 Attila Csipa wrote: > The N810 has a fully hot swappable slot, it will even automatically > (un)mount the device if you open/close the microSD card lid. Sorry, that was supposed to be miniSD. But it's definitely hot-swappable regardless of that :) _

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Mark
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Gary wrote: > Mark wrote: >> That's an excuse (and a poor one), not a reason. When they never get >> around to actually finishing the OS or software for the N9X0, you'll >> be hearing "I told you so"... >> > > Mobile processors are is going through upgrade cycles mu

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Mark
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Attila Csipa wrote: > On Thursday 20 August 2009 23:23:16 Mark wrote: >>  I personally am growing very weary of >> non-hot-swappable slots in devices. There really is no justification >> for that PITA. It's just one of many reasons I'll never give up my >> N800 for

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Mark
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > I was thinking Java ME and JavaFX Mobile. Both of which are designed to run > on smartphones. > > FC > > Yes, because they are "lite" versions, not real Java, and will only run the tiny apps written especially for them. But if you're happ

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Gary
Mark wrote: > That's a straw-man fallacy. Have I somehow misrepresented your position? If not, then it's not a straw man argument or an informal fallacy. If you throw enough swap at an OS you can run anything but an I/O bound device is still bound whether it's portable or not. Unfortunately, virt

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Attila Csipa
On Friday 21 August 2009 00:33:54 Mark wrote: > Let's see... one miniSDHC (not micro, meaning you need a micro- to > miniSD adapter for it to really be useful) compared to - count 'em - > two full-sized SDHC slots, both accessible without removing the > battery... Don't change subjects. You said o

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Mark
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Gary wrote: > Mark wrote: >> That's a straw-man fallacy. > > Have I somehow misrepresented your position? If not, then it's not a > straw man argument or an informal fallacy. > > If you throw enough swap at an OS you can run anything but an I/O bound > device is sti

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Mark
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Attila Csipa wrote: > On Friday 21 August 2009 00:33:54 Mark wrote: >> Let's see... one miniSDHC (not micro, meaning you need a micro- to >> miniSD adapter for it to really be useful) compared to - count 'em - >> two full-sized SDHC slots, both accessible without re

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 01:38 +0200, ext Mark wrote: > many other devices these days > are putting the microSD slot under the battery. Grrr... for the very same reason why the SIM is located there in the vast majority (all?) of phones: to prevent hot swap and simplify its management. If you were t

Re: N900/Maemo 5 review

2009-08-20 Thread Mark
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Igor Stoppa wrote: > On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 01:38 +0200, ext Mark wrote: >>  many other devices these days >> are putting the microSD slot under the battery. Grrr... > > for the very same reason why the SIM is located there in the vast > majority (all?) of phones: to

graphics acellerated drivers for N8x0

2009-08-20 Thread Alexandru Cardaniuc
Hi All! Any news about releasing the drivers for the graphics acceleration chip in N8x0 ? Any idea of when it might happen ? -- "For, contrary to the unreasoned opinion of the ignorant, the choice of a system of numeration is mere matter of convention." - Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) ___

Displaying N810 Apps on a PC Connected to N810 via ssh

2009-08-20 Thread R. A. Bilonick
I can connect to my N810 using: > ssh -X -C u...@192.168.0.107 But when I try to run the browser: > browser & the browser opens on the N810, not the PC (which is running Ubuntu 9.04). In the ssh_config, I have X forwarding enabled. How can I get the apps to display on the PC, not the N810? Ric

Using the N810 as a Wireless Access Point?

2009-08-20 Thread R. A. Bilonick
If you connect the N810 to the Internet, is there anyway to use the N810 as a wireless access point, so that you could connect a PC wirelessly to the N810 and browse web sites? Rick B. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.mae