On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Alberto Garcia wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:27:18AM -0700, Mark wrote:
>
>> But it's VERY important to keep the underlying OS a full desktop
>> version, complete with *all* the apps in the standard repositories
>> with no por
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Kate Alhola wrote:
> ext Attila Csipa wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday 28 January 2010 16:36:16 Mark wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The thing is, Maemo is only necessary on small devices with limited
>>> screen
>>> real est
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Attila Csipa wrote:
> On Thursday 28 January 2010 16:36:16 Mark wrote:
>> The thing is, Maemo is only necessary on small devices with limited screen
>> real estate and non-X86-compatible processors. In a tablet of the iPad's
>> size, th
The thing is, Maemo is only necessary on small devices with limited screen
real estate and non-X86-compatible processors. In a tablet of the iPad's
size, there's no reason not to use an Atom and full-blown desktop Linux.
Mark
On Jan 28, 2010 6:51 AM, "Attila Csipa" wrote:
On
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Brad Midgley wrote:
> Mark
>
>> The Apple iPad: Yawn... a huge iPod Touch/iPhone that can't possibly
>> fit in anyone's pocket. Really?
>
> It should set a decent baseline for a good looking tablet with nice
> battery life.
The Apple iPad: Yawn... a huge iPod Touch/iPhone that can't possibly
fit in anyone's pocket. Really?
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is that they never really finished OS2008 before
giving up on it completely and concentrating on Maemo5. Mer *might* be
an option someday if it doesn't fragment and get abandoned like most
other such projects. With so many more interesting devices coming
along, I'm not holding my breath.
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Mark wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Andre Klapper
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am Dienstag 05 Januar 2010 17:34:53 schrieb Mark:
>>>>>
>>>>&
to spread negative (and wrong) impressions about the
> Maemo development etc.
>
> BR Henrik
>
The purpose - as I've stated over and over again - is to wake Nokia up
and get then moving in the right direction. But don't worry, that's
cle
>
I wasn't stupid enough to buy an N900 after being ripped off with my
N800. The N800 will get thrown in a drawer tomorrow when my Nexus One
arrives. I'll probably tinker with it now and then, but since the only
thing it does really well is browse the Web, I'm not going
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Timo Pelkonen wrote:
> Mark, why are you in this mailing list anyway? I have seen only _very_
> negative comments from you. Most of them inappropiate...
>
Because I keep hoping that Nokia is going to wake up and do the right
thing, and that I'll final
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Andre Klapper wrote:
>> Am Dienstag 05 Januar 2010 17:34:53 schrieb Mark:
>> > Beautiful. :-/ The "solution" to a bug is to just remove the feature
>> > involved. As if no one will miss the feature...
>
> Many peopl
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Johas wrote:
> Am Dienstag 05 Januar 2010 17:34:53 schrieb Mark:
>> Beautiful. :-/ The "solution" to a bug is to just remove the feature
>> involved. As if no one will miss the feature...
>>
>> Mark
>
> The not co
n verified just because it happens so rarely. Some
> of these fixes might help to your case, but we still don't know if the
> problem is completely fixed. However, the problem will become
> unrelevant at some point because the second level is being removed from
> the UI.
>
>
s fifty times better than the default file manager and lets
you see and work with the entire file system, not just the removable
card(s) and a few folders in your home directory. Just be careful...
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On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Peter Flynn wrote:
> Mark wrote:
> [...]
>> Actually, it wasn't LCARS that was broken, it was GPE that disregarded
>> some of the system colors.
>
> Thank you for the correction. I tried for nearly a year to get any kind
> of resp
sn't LCARS that was broken, it was GPE that disregarded
some of the system colors. If you tried any of the other dark themes,
they all had the same issue. The problem comes from apps observing the
system font colors but disregarding all the other system colors,
specifically backgrounds. If those apps would at least let you pick
your own colors, it would help.
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In case anybody is interested, I figured out how to get bluetooth keyboards to
work with the N900. I.e. how to get the pc105 xkb layout. First, copy the
/usr/share/X11/xkb/ directory from chinook to the N900. (I put it in
/usr/share/X11/xkb-chinook/. Be careful not to overwrite /usr/share/X11/xkb/.
As is now well known, the N900 removed many layouts, including pc105, from the
xkb system. See
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6685
This prevents using bluetooth keyboards. Has anybody found a workaround? I
know that the eventual plan, as per the above, is to merge the Nokia-specific
layou
screen.
On chinook there was a menu item "Mark All". (I could mark all and then unmark
the few messages that I wanted to keep, if any). Here it seems that I have to
click on each message to select it. That can be tedious if there are hundreds.
What does the leftmost icon on the X terminal in maemo5 do? The one that is a
leftward-upward arrow that toggles with and without a red crossout line?
Jeff (http://www.ece.purdue.edu/~qobi)
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When an email arrives and I click on the orange email notification it
goes directly to the email but trash is greyed out and I can't delete the
message after reading it. To delete the message I need to click
back|user|inbox|message to get back to the message, this time with the trash
not greyed out
I can't be certain but my guess is that this is the the X input focus issue.
Apparently, Nokia changed the window manager in maemo5 so that it doesn't set
input focus on windows as they are exposed. So that apps need to call
XSetInputFocus() if they want input focus. Apparently most window managers
Peter Flynn wrote:
> Mark Haury wrote:
> [...]
>
>> Abiword doesn't work for me. I can't get it to open anything other than
>> its native proprietary format. I've tried the maemo version, the linux
>> version and the Windows version, all with the same
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6685
has a recent post that contains a patch to xkb-data to (re)add support for
bluetooth keyboards. I would like to apply the patch but to build the patch
you need scratchbox and I don't have scratchbox set up (and don't know how to
set it up). If someone ha
Where can I get complete user documentation for all of the UI gestures,
keystrokes, etc. for the N900?
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On the N900, if I click Contacts|All Contacts|New contact click on the entry
bar for Cell then type blue arrow and a number key nothing happens. I can't
figure out how to enter a number into any contact phone/cell slot. Is this a
bug or have I just not figured out how this is supposed to be done?
In the URL entry bar in the Web browser on the N900, I can't type a ~. If I
type th eblue arrow, Sym the virtual keyboard comes up. I can click on ~ and
it gets highlighted. But unlike in the X terminal, it doesn't then deexpose and
enter the ~ in the URL entry bar. Is this a bug or have I just not
The N900 feature to import contacts from existing phones is nice. But I can't
get it work on my RAZR2 v9m. I paired it fine. I clicked on Get contacts|
Syncronize from other device|Retrieve but it reports failed. Is this a bug or
is it unsupported?
Jeff (http://www.ece.purdue.edu/~qobi)
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On my N900 /usr/lib/tracker/{trackerd,tracker-indexer} have been running for
about a day and consuming about 90% of the CPU. I don't know for sure but I
conjecture that they are what is making the N900 sluggish and have low battery
life. I also conjecture that they started running when I installed
ve proprietary format. I've tried the maemo version, the linux
version and the Windows version, all with the same results. Maybe your
experience will be different.
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rg is available for the N8x0 through Easy Debian, but I
don't know if it will work with the N900 yet.
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/easy-deb-chroot/
Maybe it will be available for the N900 soon?
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When I run emacs23-lucid on an N900, I can't get the emacs window to get
keyboard input focus. This happens two different ways:
- running emacs23-lucid in a Debian sid chroot
- running a remote emacs23-lucid on Debian lenny via ssh in maemo5
Any ideas on how to fix this? (I do both of these under
Can somebody point me to appropriate /etc/ppp/peers/... and /etc/chatscripts/...
files to allow a Debian lenny laptop to tether to T-Mobile USA over an N900
over usb.
Thanks,
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le for such a easy-to-fix and yet rather annoying problem?
>
> Thank you in advance, Clemens
I've been having this issue on my N800 since "upgrading" to Diablo. I
never had it happen with Chinook. Diablo also does not support the
N800's rotating camera. I'm going
obably more so
because of the compactness (specifically referring to the iPhone).
And Apple is NOT all that successful with anything besides the iPhone.
If they hadn't come out with the iPod when they did, and subsequently
the iPhone, they wouldn't still be with us.
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On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Andrew Flegg wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 22:24, Mark wrote:
>>
>> Sarcasm noted, but I'm simply quoting iPhone territory.
>
> Indeed, which is why I mentioned their unlocked prices (the N900 is
> free in the UK on contract, and
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Ralph Angenendt
wrote:
> Am 09.12.09 23:19, schrieb Mark:
>> You can complain about reality all you want, but that's not going to
>> change it. The reality is that NO ONE is paying $900 for an unlocked
>> iPhone, and the unlocked price
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:17 PM, David Greaves wrote:
> Mark wrote:
>> N900 $510
>> http://www.buy.com/prod/nokia-n900-unlocked-maemo-internet-tablet-3g-phone-panoramic-desktop/q/loc/12435/212003401.html?adid=17582
>>
>> Note that there is no mention of the fact that 3
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Andrew Flegg wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 21:38, Mark wrote:
>> N900 $510
>> http://www.buy.com/prod/nokia-n900-unlocked-maemo-internet-tablet-3g-phone-panoramic-desktop/q/loc/12435/212003401.html?adid=17582
>>
>> Note that there is
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Erik Hovland wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Mark wrote:
>> N900 $510
>> http://www.buy.com/prod/nokia-n900-unlocked-maemo-internet-tablet-3g-phone-panoramic-desktop/q/loc/12435/212003401.html?adid=17582
>>
>> Note that ther
nsive for most people. If they get it below $200
locked and $300 unlocked it might have a chance, but at these prices
it's going to sell very poorly.
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e OS to somebody else (Nokia?),
and now has become "Psion Teklogix" (presumably by acquiring Teklogix)
and is producing niche handhelds running Windows CE, of all things.
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Dan Ritter wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 04:17:57PM -0700, Mark wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Henrik Madsen wrote:
>>
>>> If you have never had an issue with stability on Windows Mobile
>>> you are the blind person. Almost all pr
Marius Vollmer wrote:
> ext Mark writes:
>
>
>> What I said was that "I've never _heard_" of Windows Mobile devices
>> being reflashed like Linux devices.
>>
>
> I would change that to "Maemo" devices. Linux, the kernel, is cert
/ Timo
So, if markets are right, you're saying that Windows is far, far better
than any other OS out there? That iPhones are by far the best smartphone?
Give me a break. The sheep that are the buying public will buy anything
that is "cool" and has the best marketing strategy, r
if
they do, the fact that Linux devices do means that Linux is no better
or more stable than Windows... I know for a fact that Linux is far
less stable than PalmOS and Epoch.
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On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Henrik Madsen wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> As on ordinary user I have newer posted something before here. We
> are mostly just a group of users of ther Nokia Internet Tables
> who are now also looking forward to receive the N900.
>
> I have fol
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 2:32 PM, wrote:
> From: ext Mark [wolfm...@gmail.com]
>
>
>> Except for the not so insignificant detail that the developers (in
>> narrow sense that you mean, as in "software developers") are the ones
>> who say when they have f
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 2:32 PM, wrote:
> From: ext Mark [wolfm...@gmail.com]
>
>
>> Except for the not so insignificant detail that the developers (in
>> narrow sense that you mean, as in "software developers") are the ones
>> who say when they have f
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:22 PM, wrote:
>
> From: ext Mark [wolfm...@gmail.com]
>
>
>> Sigh... I guess potential customers leaving in droves isn't "relevant"
>> to you... exactly why Nokia is headed for self-destruction...
>
>
> The only re
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:31 PM, wrote:
> thank you for satisfying so quickly my request
>
> Cheers, Igor
Sigh... I guess potential customers leaving in droves isn't "relevant"
to you... exactly why Nokia is headed for s
bly has been discontinued. You can still find
them online (see http://tinyurl.com/y93umcf), but not through Nokia's
online store. The demand for and availability of folding keyboards
seems to be waning.
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nt is the result of those processes. I also
have to point out that "actions (and inactions) speak louder than
words", and there's a very significant and clear history here.
> Now, please, go ahead and write again something that is irrelevant to the
> discussion.
>
>
that when I said "developers" I was referring to
those paid by Nokia, not the volunteers. Nokia is the one who is
taking advantage of people who desperately want the open source
community to grow and repeatedly ripping them off, both volunteer
developers and consumers.
Mark
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Qole wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 7:07 AM, Jeffrey Mark Siskind <mailto:q...@purdue.edu>> wrote:
>
> This could be a showstopper for me
> as it would break my central use case. And I would need to cancel
> my order and
> consider buyi
> I have an N810 and use it with a variety of bluetooth keyboards
>
> My question is this: how difficult would this be for a user or the
community
> to fix without support from Nokia?
Please see
http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_Unsupported_Bluetooth_profiles
andre
Please rea
I have an N810 and use it with a variety of bluetooth keyboards as a pocket
laptop (running a Debian chroot with Emacs, Scheme->C, and LaTeX). I was
planning on upgrading to an N900 and have one on order. But the crucial use
case for me is to continue using it with a bluetooth keyboard as a pocket
usage during the day. If I turn
it off when I'm not using it and turn it on and back off 2-4 times a
day, I can get 1 to 2 weeks out of it. Even if the N810s are better,
there are too many variables to defend such outrageous claims,
especially if you (again) actually use the thing and install a
t full blast for a significant length of
time, which rarely happens otherwise. However, if you only turn it on
once or twice a day, your battery will last many more days if you shut
it down than if you leave it on, even at maximum power savings.
Mark
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> application on the N8x0 series tablets.
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Mark wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Kevin T. Neely
>> wrote:
>> > That really works? I've been rocking mobile navigation for a couple
>> > years
>> &g
- for any of
those that is in the same league as even the worst standalone GPSr.
The usability of even my piece of junk TomTom is light years beyond
anything I've tried that wasn't a dedicated unit.
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near and sometimes even
below cost, but make such extremely high profit margins on the ink and
toner that they could give the printers away for free and it wouldn't
make any difference. Can you say "at least 6000% profit"?!?!? (Except
the GPS manufacturers are making a very he
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Timo Pelkonen wrote:
> Aihe: Re: N900 Delayed
> Lähettäjä: Nicolau Werneck
> Päivämäärä: 25.10.2009 22:23
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 08:49:58AM -0600, Mark wrote:
>
>> The overwhelming majority of the Linux desktop apps I've t
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Andrea Grandi wrote:
> 2009/10/25 Mark Haury :
>> John B. Holmblad wrote:
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I just happened to find some news from the last day or so concerning
>>> delay in the N900 product availability. Here is the url
e hardware, and about a year later, long before the software is
completed, they'll abandon it and introduce a new model...
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". When 32GB SDHC Class 6 cards come down
to where I can afford one, I'll probably try running Chinook, Diablo,
Mer and EasyDebian all off one card (if that's possible) so I can
compare them side-by-side. (Only after a comprehensive multiple-method
backup...) My current 8GB cards are nearly full, and a fair comparison
can only take place if all my data etc. is identically available to
each OS.
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ctly it's really easy to slip on and off. They have different
types of leather cases as well. I also have an "Invisible Shield" from
http://www.zagg.com/ , and between the two my N800 is still looking
pristine after nearly two years of hard use and being knocked around
in my pack.
Mar
o try your product to download
and use the emulator. If they like what they see, they're going to buy
the real thing. But there's always a lot of resistance to releasing
emulators when the product is both 1) Way overpriced and 2) Not very
good...
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s that will never be
complete or polished to the level that the average consumer can make
good use of it.
I am often asked about my N800 too. I tell them what it is, but I'm
careful not to recommend it to people that I know wouldn't be able to
make the best of it.
Mark
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keeps playing but
trying to click any controls is an exercise in extreme frustration).
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On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:26 PM, João Marcelo wrote:
>> https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=978
>>
>> I haven't tried the solution yet myself - the details are pretty sketchy.
>>
>> Mark
>
> the system does performs slightly better after the crawler
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 3:30 PM, João Marcelo wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Mark wrote:
>> On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 6:39 PM, João Marcelo
>> wrote:
>>> Helo Community,
>>>
>>> I've just bought a brand new nokia n800 tablet. It comes loaded wi
otup. Whose brilliant idea was it to design that process
to run on startup with top priority, anyway? It should only run with a
very low priority and allow other processes to run first.
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e any simpler. In a way, using the Web pages might
be better. It would probably allow for more features and more
information than you could get from the codes.
Mark
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Samer Azmy wrote:
> I dont have a complete list of all of them
> I used to use it with Vodafone ,
at history to consult. At this point, I've learned far too much
about Nokia and their tablets to jump on the N9x0 bandwagon until at
least 18 months after they come to market...
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-specific OS & software, so Java isn't really a platform,
especially since the interpreter is necessarily different for each
target machine hardware & OS, making it impossible to point to any one
setup and say "that's the Java platform".
Mark
erability and exclude proprietary
technology. Java is the future, and companies that ignore it sooner or
later are going to find themselves ignored...
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l that I'm not even going to start listing them.
>
> This is yet another classic example of Mark taking one comment and then
> turning it in a different direction to "prove" his point.
Slinging mud is an obvious sign of someone who knows he's on the
losing end of an
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Kevin T.
Neely wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Mark wrote:
>>
>> You could not be more wrong. I'm still using my Handspring Visor
>> Deluxe every day because it does things that *no* other device can do,
>>
>
undamental
platform never gets finished, never mind the software feature set.
Hobbyists only have a certain amount of time and resources to
contribute, and they have far less access to the fundamental hardware
and OS features than the manufacturer. It's not reasonable, as either
a manufactur
lakestevensdental wrote:
> Mark wrote:
>
>> But $25 is nothing to sneeze at. I would still rather pay $25 less and
>> install kubuntu on the entire drive than pay $25 more and end up with
>> dual-boot. Either way, it's still Linux I'll be using, so why
buntu on the entire drive than pay $25 more and end up with
dual-boot. Either way, it's still Linux I'll be using, so why should I
have to pay extra for something I neither want nor need?
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e and I'll run with it.
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and the GSM SIM card slot. not
> that that is unique, but it is distinguishable from most.
>
> K
>
But they _should_ offer it as a purchase option, and let those of us who
would rather do without Windows get a better price.
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dware drivers. And no, what works on a 4" screen is NOT appropriate
for a 7" or larger screen and vice-versa. Frankly, I don't like the
direction that GUIs are taking in general. Everybody is hopping on the
Apple bandwagon of having to scroll through miles or pages of
h
development environment, etc. For me, the WiFi, bluetooth, webcam etc.
all worked out of the box, as do the most important function keys.
Don't bother with the "special" netbook kernel, it causes a lot more
problems than it solves.
Mark
e, and even if it seems like it's frozen just wait. If it
hasn't successfully booted in a couple of hours, start over. If you do
eventually get a successful boot, try removing a few of the larger
apps that you don't really need and see if that helps.
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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Igor Stoppa wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 01:38 +0200, ext Mark wrote:
>> many other devices these days
>> are putting the microSD slot under the battery. Grrr...
>
> for the very same reason why the SIM is located there in the vast
> m
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Attila Csipa wrote:
> On Friday 21 August 2009 00:33:54 Mark wrote:
>> Let's see... one miniSDHC (not micro, meaning you need a micro- to
>> miniSD adapter for it to really be useful) compared to - count 'em -
>> two full-sized SDHC
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Gary wrote:
> Mark wrote:
>> That's a straw-man fallacy.
>
> Have I somehow misrepresented your position? If not, then it's not a
> straw man argument or an informal fallacy.
>
> If you throw enough swap at an OS you can run any
ecially for them. But if you're happy
with that limitation in a tablet, great.
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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Attila Csipa wrote:
> On Thursday 20 August 2009 23:23:16 Mark wrote:
>> I personally am growing very weary of
>> non-hot-swappable slots in devices. There really is no justification
>> for that PITA. It's just one of many reasons I'
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Gary wrote:
> Mark wrote:
>> That's an excuse (and a poor one), not a reason. When they never get
>> around to actually finishing the OS or software for the N9X0, you'll
>> be hearing "I told you so"...
>>
>
>
Mer.
>
That's an excuse (and a poor one), not a reason. When they never get
around to actually finishing the OS or software for the N9X0, you'll
be hearing "I told you so"...
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d less likely that I'll ever
get one of those, either. The upgrade from the N810 is incremental at
best, and it looks like they've actually removed a couple of
significant hardware features, just like they did going from the N800
to the N810. I realize that trade
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
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> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Mark wrote:
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>> Good luck with that. The processing power on these things is
>> deliberately modest, at least partly because there is a very valid
>> power conservatio
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Andre Klapper wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 20.08.2009, 13:28 -0600 schrieb Mark:
>> No, and when Maemo X comes along, they'll be abandoning N900 owners
>> just like they _already_ have N770 and N8x0 owners. Once they leave
>> the fac
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Good luck with that. The processing power on these things is
deliberately modest, at least partly because there is a very valid
power conservation issue, and Java can be sluggish even on a fast PC.
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device (or even run) is another story entirely. There are many reasons
why "porting" is not a trivial process, and a program that works great
on a PC monitor may not be usable at all on a tiny touchscreen, never
mind the fundamental hardware issues.
Mark
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