On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 09:14:14PM -0400, hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote:
> > How do you use accelerometer on a netbook?
> You program it to park the hard disk heads when the accelerometer
> readings warrant.
ThinkPads do exactly that:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Active_Protection_System
There'
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 03:35:29PM -0700, Alexandru Cardaniuc wrote:
>
> How do you use accelerometer on a netbook?
You program it to park the hard disk heads when the accelerometer
readings warrant.
-- hendrik
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Gary writes:
> it has an accelerometer and long battery life but I would immediately
> swap out the 4200 rpm hard drive...
As a matter of fact, 4200 rpm HDD is one of the reasons for long life.
Anyways, aside from accelerometer it doesn't have much to distinguish
itself from other netbooks.
>
lakestevensdental writes:
> Gary wrote:
>> lakestevensdental wrote:
>>> but there's no Linux marketing agent to sit down at the table with
>>> Nokia and some cell provider to cut a deal.
>> These companies would probably disagree:
>> http://www.canonical.com/partners
>> http://www.novell.com/
Am Donnerstag, den 03.09.2009, 13:16 -0700 schrieb lakestevensdental:
> > So how come linux devices probably outnumber windows devices?
> > (DSL-)Router, NAS/SAN, Hard disc recorders,network printers etc..
> > Oh, it doesnt come with a "powered by linux" sticker. Doesnt mean its
> > not there.
>
Syren Baran wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 17:50 -0700 schrieb lakestevensdental:
>
>
>> This nitpicking about Linux vs MS OS offerings aside, IMHO, Linux is
>> never going to make its mark as a major market OS until somehow it
>> offers a top end gaming platform equal to (and ideally
Am Dienstag, den 01.09.2009, 17:50 -0700 schrieb lakestevensdental:
> This nitpicking about Linux vs MS OS offerings aside, IMHO, Linux is
> never going to make its mark as a major market OS until somehow it
> offers a top end gaming platform equal to (and ideally compatible with)
> what Mic
it has an accelerometer and long battery life but I would immediately
swap out the 4200 rpm hard drive...
http://conversations.nokia.com/2009/09/02/more-nokia-booklet-3g-specs-emerge-at-nokia-world-09/
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Gary wrote:
> lakestevensdental wrote:
>
>> but there's no Linux marketing agent to sit down at the
>> table with Nokia and some cell provider to cut a deal.
>>
>
> These companies would probably disagree:
>
> http://www.canonical.com/partners
> http://www.novell.com/linux/partners.html
>
lakestevensdental wrote:
> but there's no Linux marketing agent to sit down at the
> table with Nokia and some cell provider to cut a deal.
These companies would probably disagree:
http://www.canonical.com/partners
http://www.novell.com/linux/partners.html
http://www.xandros.com/products/oem/
ht
Alexandru Cardaniuc wrote:
> So, how do you explain other companies selling netbooks with Linux? They
> don't know what they are doing?
>
It's a marketing/business decision. If the company feels there's
sufficient market to support the extra hassles of inventory management
of Linux units, and
sean wrote:
> What will make the Nokia Netbook any more unique then some other model?
It will be the first line of netbooks abandoned by it's maker and left
up to user support?
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What will make the Nokia Netbook any more unique then some other model?
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lakestevensdental writes:
>>> You appear to be ignoring the power of numbers. Nokia's netbook,
>>> bundled with Windows will sell far more units with than without.
>>> The larger quantity sold with Windows will allow Nokia to produce
>>> sell their netbook for less than otherwise, perhaps more th
lakestevensdental writes:
But $25 is nothing to sneeze at. I would still rather pay $25 less
and install kubuntu on the entire drive than pay $25 more and end
up with dual-boot. Either way, it's still Linux I'll be using, so
why should I have to pay extra for something I neith
After some time lurking the mailing list, this caused mainly by cause of Nokia
dropping Maemo OS backwards compatibility towards 770 internet tablet, I am
enjoying the discussion arousen since the N900 was announced after being leaked
a couple months ago. I'd like to ask some comments to the deb
Mark Haury wrote:
> lakestevensdental wrote:
>
>> Mark wrote:
>>
>>
>>> But $25 is nothing to sneeze at. I would still rather pay $25 less and
>>> install kubuntu on the entire drive than pay $25 more and end up with
>>> dual-boot. Either way, it's still Linux I'll be using, so why shoul
Gary wrote:
> lakestevensdental wrote:
>
>> You appear to be ignoring the power of numbers. Nokia's netbook,
>> bundled with Windows will sell far more units with than without. The
>> larger quantity sold with Windows will allow Nokia to produce sell their
>> netbook for less than otherwise
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, Gary wrote:
> Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
>> Almost all GPRS/UMTS/HSPA modems appear to
>> the CPU as a serial device and need standard AT commands for connection
>> management.
>
> Oh yeah -- I forgot about that. There's a way to use those modems with
> OS X that involve some configu
lakestevensdental wrote:
> Mark wrote:
>
>> But $25 is nothing to sneeze at. I would still rather pay $25 less and
>> install kubuntu on the entire drive than pay $25 more and end up with
>> dual-boot. Either way, it's still Linux I'll be using, so why should I
>> have to pay extra for something
> s...@ece.ucsb.edu wrote ---I have a Lenovo S10 netbook dual booting Windows
> XP and Fedora Core 11 (with rpmfusion software repository enabled for
> non-free stuff). I much prefer Fedora over XP. Fedora works well: wireless,
> suspend, hibernate,
> flash videos, videos (via VLC) all work g
lakestevensdental wrote:
> You appear to be ignoring the power of numbers. Nokia's netbook,
> bundled with Windows will sell far more units with than without. The
> larger quantity sold with Windows will allow Nokia to produce sell their
> netbook for less than otherwise, perhaps more than $25
On 08/26/2009 04:37 PM, lakestevensdental wrote:
> Mark wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:24 AM,
>> lakestevensdental wrote:
>>
But they _should_ offer it as a purchase option, and let those of us who
would rather do without Windows get a better price.
>>> As I understand it
Mark wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:24 AM,
> lakestevensdental wrote:
>
>>> But they _should_ offer it as a purchase option, and let those of us who
>>> would rather do without Windows get a better price.
>>>
>>>
>> As I understand it, the per unit price for Windows to an OEM is
>> s
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:24 AM,
lakestevensdental wrote:
>
>> But they _should_ offer it as a purchase option, and let those of us who
>> would rather do without Windows get a better price.
>>
> As I understand it, the per unit price for Windows to an OEM is
> something like $25/unit, not the $10
> But they _should_ offer it as a purchase option, and let those of us who
> would rather do without Windows get a better price.
>
As I understand it, the per unit price for Windows to an OEM is
something like $25/unit, not the $100+ that end users pay (kind of
stupid marketing but that's MS
Kevin T. Neely wrote:
> Actually, it's a new MSFT technology called DirectConnect (or
> DirectAccess or something like that) that is basically a multi-path
> IPv6 IPSEC tunnel. I guess they can say "no VPN needed" because it
> only goes to the corp network when it needs to, but this seems to be
>
Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
> Almost all GPRS/UMTS/HSPA modems appear to
> the CPU as a serial device and need standard AT commands for connection
> management.
Oh yeah -- I forgot about that. There's a way to use those modems with
OS X that involve some configuration of PPP. Is that the same way a
conn
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009, Gary wrote:
> The catch will be whether they release drivers for the HSPA broadband
> chipset ...
Drivers for the HSPA chipset? Almost all GPRS/UMTS/HSPA modems appear to
the CPU as a serial device and need standard AT commands for connection
management. The only exception
Kevin T. Neely wrote:
> I wasn't even suggesting Nokia offer Linux as a purchase option, just as an
> after-purchase option for someone that wants it.
>
Actually, they don't even need to install an OS on it. Just give it to
me with an empty HDD and a more attractive price and I'll run with it
Kevin T. Neely wrote:
> I wasn't even suggesting Nokia offer Linux as a purchase option, just as an
> after-purchase option for someone that wants it.
>
> It would be different in the same ways the Win7 booklet is different from
> other windows netbooks, basically styling and the GSM SIM card slo
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 00:37:18 Alexandru Cardaniuc wrote:
> Maemo's point is to be a substitute of a real distribution because of
> the hardware limitations like small screens and weak processing
> capabilities.
You're talking just about the UI, Maemo is (headed to be) much more than just
a
nique, but it is distinguishable from most.
K
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From: Alexandru Cardaniuc
Sent: 08/25/2009 3:47:24 PM
Subject: Re: Nokia netbook
"Kevin T. Neely" writes:
> I just recall a good bit of the video
> But then, how is that netbook from Nokia going to be different from
> netbooks from other manufacturers?
This will be very interesting to see next week!!
/ove
2009/8/26 Alexandru Cardaniuc :
> "Kevin T. Neely" writes:
>
>> I just recall a good bit of the video's focus was aimed at the corpora
"Kevin T. Neely" writes:
> I just recall a good bit of the video's focus was aimed at the corporate
> commuter types (so-called VPN-less connection to corporate email being first
> in my mind),
> so I thought that was a market segment they were going after.
>
> I suspect an Ubuntu or other Linu
hend...@topoi.pooq.com writes:
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 09:55:38AM -0600, Mark wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Kenneth
>> Loafman wrote:
>> > booiiing wrote:
>> >> 2009/8/25 Gary :
>> >>> I wonder why they chose Windows over Linux. And suggesting that
>> >>> Sony is weak in the mobile
Mark writes:
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Kenneth Loafman
> wrote:
>> booiiing wrote:
>>> 2009/8/25 Gary :
I wonder why they chose Windows over Linux. And suggesting that
Sony is weak in the mobile device market is not only
unprofessional, it's simply untrue.
http://news
booiiing writes:
> 2009/8/25 Gary :
>> I wonder why they chose Windows over Linux. And suggesting that Sony
>> is weak in the mobile device market is not only unprofessional, it's
>> simply untrue. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/mobile/technology/8219005.stm
> i say at most 3 months and maemo will be av
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Gary wrote:
> Kevin T. Neely wrote:
> > I just recall a good bit of the video's focus was aimed at the
> > corporate commuter types (so-called VPN-less connection to corporate
> > email being first in my mind), so I thought that was a market segment
> > they were
Kevin T. Neely wrote:
> I just recall a good bit of the video's focus was aimed at the
> corporate commuter types (so-called VPN-less connection to corporate
> email being first in my mind), so I thought that was a market segment
> they were going after.
That's just Microsoft ActiveSync and it's no
It's not touchscreen, but I believe Maemo can be controlled via mouse &
keyboard.
K
2009/8/25 Ove Nordström
> I wondering if the Nokia Netbook is a touch screen tablet?
> If not, is it really possible to run Maemo 5 on it?
> /ove
>
> 2009/8/25 Gary :
> > I wonder why they chose Windows over Lin
I wondering if the Nokia Netbook is a touch screen tablet?
If not, is it really possible to run Maemo 5 on it?
/ove
2009/8/25 Gary :
> I wonder why they chose Windows over Linux. And suggesting that Sony
> is weak in the mobile device market is not only unprofessional, it's
> simply untrue. http:/
I just recall a good bit of the video's focus was aimed at the corporate
commuter types (so-called VPN-less connection to corporate email being first
in my mind), so I thought that was a market segment they were going after.
I suspect an Ubuntu or other Linux port to this booklet would not be too
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 09:55:38AM -0600, Mark wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Kenneth Loafman wrote:
> > booiiing wrote:
> >> 2009/8/25 Gary :
> >>> I wonder why they chose Windows over Linux. And suggesting that Sony
> >>> is weak in the mobile device market is not only unprofessional,
Kevin T. Neely a écrit :
> There's a lot of talk that Nokia should release a Maemo netbook. Is
> there a working port of Maemo to Intel-based chips? I only know of the
> ARM version for the tablets.
The Scratchbox tool used into Maemo already support x86 processors. And
Linux certainly suppor
Kevin T. Neely wrote:
> There's a lot of talk that Nokia should release a Maemo netbook. Is
> there a working port of Maemo to Intel-based chips? I only know of
> the ARM version for the tablets.
Not that I'm aware of.
> This was partially mentioned above, but I don't think enough weight
> has
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Kevin T.
Neely wrote:
> There's a lot of talk that Nokia should release a Maemo netbook. Is there a
> working port of Maemo to Intel-based chips? I only know of the ARM version
> for the tablets.
>
> This was partially mentioned above, but I don't think enough we
There's a lot of talk that Nokia should release a Maemo netbook. Is there a
working port of Maemo to Intel-based chips? I only know of the ARM version
for the tablets.
This was partially mentioned above, but I don't think enough weight has been
given to the fact that Nokia has just within the pa
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Stephen
Gadsby wrote:
>> Microsoft hires an advertising firm, surely.
>
> Showing they'll use an appropriate tool for a job and not kill
> themselves with NIH.
My point in the end was that one of the several reasons of microsoft's
market dominance is that WINDOWS
Antonio Di Cello wrote:
> For italian maemo/nokia user I post on my blog the news ad the specifications
> of new booklet3G
The Guardian has more speculation on the hardware specs.
http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gmg/op/sXsDARYcytKh_ev4Q2pP53Q/view.m?id=158147&tid=120787
My guess is that they're tr
Hi,
in the spot video booklet 3g the new netbook nokia is presented with windows.
But I personally prefer the combination of opensource software Ubuntu + Maemo.
For italian maemo/nokia user I post on my blog the news ad the specifications
of new booklet3G : http://rafanto.net/booklet-3g-ecco-il-
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Kenneth Loafman wrote:
> booiiing wrote:
>> 2009/8/25 Gary :
>>> I wonder why they chose Windows over Linux. And suggesting that Sony
>>> is weak in the mobile device market is not only unprofessional, it's
>>> simply untrue. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/mobile/technolog
On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 17:04 +0200, William Maddler wrote:
> On 25/08/2009 16:47, Kenneth Loafman wrote:
> > booiiing wrote:
> >> 2009/8/25 Gary:
> >>> I wonder why they chose Windows over Linux. And suggesting that Sony
> >>> is weak in the mobile device market is not only unprofessional, it's
> >>
I strongly believe Maemo will be a direct competitor to Google Chrome
OS WHEN it'll be ready for a netbook form factor device.
They had (for whatever reason [may be test the market?]) to release a
netbook, but neither Symbian nor Maemo were ready for it. So why
wonder?
Maemo will be an OS that ca
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Kenneth Loafman wrote:
>> that would be awesome!
>
> Wonder if Nokia will honor a refund if you swap to Maemo from Windows?
>
> ...Ken
It's the IBM OS/2 story all over again a company that doesn't have
faith in its own OS is a company doomed to FAIL in the s
On 25/08/2009 16:47, Kenneth Loafman wrote:
> booiiing wrote:
>> 2009/8/25 Gary:
>>> I wonder why they chose Windows over Linux. And suggesting that Sony
>>> is weak in the mobile device market is not only unprofessional, it's
>>> simply untrue. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/mobile/technology/8219005.stm
booiiing wrote:
> 2009/8/25 Gary :
>> I wonder why they chose Windows over Linux. And suggesting that Sony
>> is weak in the mobile device market is not only unprofessional, it's
>> simply untrue. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/mobile/technology/8219005.stm
> i say at most 3 months and maemo will be avail
I think there are two factors:
1) People will find more comfortable with a known interface.
2) Commercial agreements.
I'd like to have the choice among Windows or Linux. Some vendors will
let you choose your OS. Some won't.
On 25/08/2009 16:15, Gary wrote:
> I wonder why they chose Windows over
2009/8/25 Gary :
> I wonder why they chose Windows over Linux. And suggesting that Sony
> is weak in the mobile device market is not only unprofessional, it's
> simply untrue. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/mobile/technology/8219005.stm
i say at most 3 months and maemo will be available for it :)
that wo
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