Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-28 Thread Mike Lococo
I think we should stop wasting time on things like this that really don't matter and concentrate on things that do. In my experience anything that involves legal takes ages and is very difficult to change Hmmm... That's an interesting point and one obviously one that is shared by Nokia. My poin

RE: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-28 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
CTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frantisek Dufka Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:18 AM To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: > - I don't get a similar statement on a Palm device when I install non-Palm &g

RE: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-28 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
Nick Shaw -Original Message- From: Michael Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:05 AM To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: Neil MacLeod; maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade On 27/03/07, Dr. Nicholas Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > W

Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-27 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: - I don't get a similar statement on a Palm device when I install non-Palm software (it's an OS, people install software). - I don't get a similar statement on a Windows mobile device when I install non-Windows software. - I don't get a similar statement on my cell phone

Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-27 Thread Michael Thompson
On 27/03/07, Dr. Nicholas Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What bothers me IS the checkbox. What concerns me about the "legal" statement is this: I think we should stop wasting time on things like this that really don't matter and concentrate on things that do. In my experience anything that i

Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-27 Thread Jonathan Greene
Quim - Thanks for your continued support and discussion in the forum. I know we all respect that it's hard to be as transparent as you might like, given the dichotomy of an open source platform combined with the commercial enterprise that is selling tablets. That said, your input to the group g

RE: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-27 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
pon what is available and what their needs are. Regards, Nick Shaw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil MacLeod Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:00 AM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade Quim Gil wrote: > I

Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-27 Thread Neil MacLeod
Quim Gil wrote: I'll try to explain. - I pick the most voted feature requests and I try to solve them. This implies that most of the time I'm dealing with issues I'm not expert of, but can help solving. - You would be surprised how little is my knowledge about what is going on inside the device

Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-26 Thread Quim Gil
I'll try to explain. - I pick the most voted feature requests and I try to solve them. This implies that most of the time I'm dealing with issues I'm not expert of, but can help solving. - You would be surprised how little is my knowledge about what is going on inside the device. My skills are el

Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-26 Thread Neil MacLeod
Mike Lococo wrote: I've pasted Quim's response into Bug #303 so folks that refer there will have this latest info. Thanks, Mike Thanks Mike, but by doing so you highlight the lack of input from Nokia in the public Bugzilla. This isn't a personal slight against Quim (who does sterling work i

Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-26 Thread Mike Lococo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been discussed several times. A provisional conclusion is that a) Even if it sounds incredible we are following POSIX standards, and we did not create them. b) We will probably enable the possibility of users to select their preferred display. This won't come in

Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-26 Thread Zoran Kolic
> > Still no 12/24-hour clock. > This has been discussed several times. A provisional conclusion is that > a) Even if it sounds incredible we are following POSIX standards, and we > did not create them. I remember posix standard from medieval times, following which all witches, that have object

Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-26 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Neil MacLeod wrote: As for c) - unfortunately, Windows Mobile has this capability as do your own phones (both smart and non-smart varieties). Limited resources is not an excuse for failing to implement this most basic and obvious user convenience functionality! Not talking about even more li

Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-26 Thread Neil MacLeod
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, thanks for this report. This has been discussed several times. A provisional conclusion is that There are perfectly good bugs in Maemo Bugzilla for both time[1] and date[2] formatting deficiencies, yet I don't see any detail/comment from Nokia against these

Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-26 Thread Marius Vollmer
"ext Dr. Nicholas Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 5. Nokia, get rid of the warning each time a non-Nokia application >is installed saying we?re doing it at our own risk. I would accept a patch to skip this dialog in red-pill mode. ___ maemo-user

RE: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-26 Thread quim.gil
Hi, thanks for this report. > Nokia, get rid of the warning each time a non-Nokia application is installed saying we're doing it at our own risk. No way. :) It is important from a legal and commercial perspective that users accept explicitely each time they install non-supported software.

Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-23 Thread Jonathan Greene
te: I changed themes and I got my scrool bar back! T. --- Weblog ~ http://tim.samoff.com Baby Blog ~ http://kc.samoff.com Photography ~ http://www.flickr.com/photos/timsamoff Music ~ http://www.adkoc.com - Original Message - Subject: Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade From: Tim &

Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-23 Thread Tim
I changed themes and I got my scrool bar back! T. --- Weblog ~ http://tim.samoff.com Baby Blog ~ http://kc.samoff.com Photography ~ http://www.flickr.com/photos/timsamoff Music ~ http://www.adkoc.com - Original Message - Subject: Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade From: Tim To: "[

RE: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-23 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
Thanks, Paul. Nick Shaw _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Klapperich Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 11:09 AM Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade On 3/23/07, Dr. Nicholas Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-23 Thread Tim
The scroll bar is not visible in my web browser any more. Wha...? T. Message: 6 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:42:38 -0600 From: "Dr. Nicholas Shaw" Subject: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Here are my comments: 1. Update using the update

Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-23 Thread Paul Klapperich
On 3/23/07, Dr. Nicholas Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1. Control Panel no longer expands to full screen. *New bug*. I'm using 2007 v 2.2006.51-6 and my control pane doesn't expand to full screen. I don't think it ever did. All Bluetooth devices will have to be re-paired. Those settin

RE: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-23 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
Yes, Mike, I'm aware of that but felt they should be included here as well. Regards, Nick Shaw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Lococo Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 10:53 AM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: IT OS 200

Re: IT OS 2007 v.3 Upgrade

2007-03-23 Thread Mike Lococo
6. Still no 12/24-hour clock. Nokia, you’ve got to get this right. Due to daylight savings time changes that are different around the world, we can’t just select some other region that uses a 24-hour clock. This is standard on every version of Linux and actually requi