Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-18 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
Here's the result of the German community. After the initial opening of the poll there was a discussion with more than 40 postings, still going on. Involved were people actively using ArchLinux, members of our packaging team and interested users. Voters had the chance to alter their vote during the

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-18 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/10/18 Marc Paré : > > Thanks Michael for the note. This is why I am in favour of streamlining the > reporting of bugs from the user side and not the dev. Devs should always > count on seeing bugs reported on bugzilla and nothing more. However, on the > user side, to keep the reporting of bug f

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-18 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 14 October 2010 19:05, Tux99 wrote: >> However, I then found that the new version of VLC had problems with >> DVD menus, and the new CUPS introduced problems (not just in my >> installation but at least one other Mandriva user). > > I would put this down to the fact that currently in Mandriva b

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-18 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 15 October 2010 13:42, Buchan Milne wrote: > "Now, maybe the user interface needs to be improved. For example, maybe there > should be no dropdown box, but instead when searching for a package by name, > it should show you all the versions: > > ==

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-18 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 17 October 2010 09:56, David W. Hodgins wrote: > The problem I've experienced with the current Mandriva release cycle > is with one friend, who has a slow system.  It took 13 hours to go > from 2010.0 to 2010.1, even though (I'm guessing) the bulk of the files > being downloaded were identical

Re: [Mageia-dev] Various proposals around backports and other media management

2010-10-18 Thread Anssi Hannula
On Wednesday 06 October 2010 09:44:37 Samuel Verschelde wrote: > Le mercredi 6 octobre 2010 00:06:41, Buchan Milne a écrit : > > As long as it doesn't take the focus off the development release. In > > Mandriva, I think there were some uploads to backports before the > > upload to cooker, which can

Re: [Mageia-dev] Various proposals around backports and other media management

2010-10-18 Thread Michael Scherer
Le lundi 18 octobre 2010 à 15:09 +0300, Anssi Hannula a écrit : > On Wednesday 06 October 2010 09:44:37 Samuel Verschelde wrote: > > Le mercredi 6 octobre 2010 00:06:41, Buchan Milne a écrit : > > > As long as it doesn't take the focus off the development release. In > > > Mandriva, I think there w

Re: [Mageia-dev] Q: how long should we able to upgrade from?

2010-10-18 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 18 October 2010 00:31, Michael Scherer wrote: > While I cannot answer, i think we should indeed try to have a policy for > this. > > And in fact, I would also try to remove older Conflicts and Obsoletes > from specs files, as this only add useless computation on urpmi side. I'm not against tha

Re: [Mageia-dev] Q: how long should we able to upgrade from?

2010-10-18 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 07:30, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > On 18 October 2010 00:31, Michael Scherer wrote: >> While I cannot answer, i think we should indeed try to have a policy for >> this. >> >> And in fact, I would also try to remove older Conflicts and Obsoletes >> from specs files, as this on

Re: [Mageia-dev] Q: how long should we able to upgrade from?

2010-10-18 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 08:41, Pascal Terjan wrote: >> The issue is how do we detect "old tags"??? > > By commenting when adding an Obsoletes ? Another a way to do it could be svn annotate *.spec + grep Obsoletes + look for revision older than a given one

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-18 Thread Florian Hubold
Am 18.10.2010 02:56, schrieb Fernando Parra: On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 01:01:27 -0400 andré wrote: It's not just creating the update that costs, also due to these changing dependancies, dealing with bugs on various installations of the release in question becomes much more problematic. Installing

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-18 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-18 04:18, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : Here's the result of the German community. After the initial opening of the poll there was a discussion with more than 40 postings, still going on. Involved were people actively using ArchLinux, members of our packaging team and interested users. Vo

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-18 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-18 04:26, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : 2010/10/18 Marc Paré: Thanks Michael for the note. This is why I am in favour of streamlining the reporting of bugs from the user side and not the dev. Devs should always count on seeing bugs reported on bugzilla and nothing more. However, on the

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-18 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Florian Hubold wrote: > Hate to do that, but could we please focus on the topic of the thread > and not dream about the next best thing in operating systems? > We should focus on getting our base cleaned up, and to get a stable > and good quality release out the door, This should be our top priori

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-18 Thread Renaud MICHEL
On lundi 18 octobre 2010 at 03:04, Fernando Parra wrote : > There are a biological law: Grow up in population or die, as simple as > that. Here is another one: if you outgrow your natural resources, you'll starve. (and humanity should be very aware of that) -- Renaud Michel

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-18 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/10/18 Renaud MICHEL : > On lundi 18 octobre 2010 at 03:04, Fernando Parra wrote : >> There are a biological law: Grow up in population or die, as simple as >> that. > > Here is another one: if you outgrow your natural resources, you'll starve. > (and humanity should be very aware of that) Whe

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-18 Thread Dubeau, Patrick
> -Message d'origine- > De : mageia-dev-boun...@mageia.org [mailto:mageia-dev- > boun...@mageia.org] De la part de Wolfgang Bornath > Envoyé : 18 octobre 2010 16:52 > À : Mageia development mailing-list > Objet : Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? > > 2010/10/18 Renaud MICHEL

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

2010-10-18 Thread Benoit Audouard
Re, 2010/10/15 Frank Griffin > Tux99 wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Oct 2010, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > > > > > >> As mirror maintainer/owner of Mandriva Linux and future Mageia > >> (ftp.mandrivauser.de) I discussed this problem with my friends and we > >> decided not to mirror PLF although a German uni

Re: [Mageia-dev] Q: how long should we able to upgrade from?

2010-10-18 Thread Luca Berra
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 08:43:25AM -0700, Pascal Terjan wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 08:41, Pascal Terjan wrote: The issue is how do we detect "old tags"??? By commenting when adding an Obsoletes ? Another a way to do it could be svn annotate *.spec + grep Obsoletes + look for revision ol