[Mageia-dev] Fwd: Impact of ConsoleKit deprecation

2012-01-27 Thread Olav Vitters
[ resending with correct From ] Just a FYI. Simple summary: We need to switch to systemd in Mageia 3. -- Regards, Olav ---BeginMessage--- The ConsoleKit project at freedesktop.org has been deprecated. Please read this email if your distribution/OS plans to continue to rely on ConsoleKit.

Re: [Mageia-dev] mkinitrd and Mageia2

2012-01-27 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Charles A Edwards at 27/01/12 01:06 did gyre and gimble: It was my understanding that mkinitrd would continue to be supported in Mageia2 and then be phased out during the Mageia3 development. If this is the case, why is it that all 'current' kernels now require dracut?

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: GNOME 3.4 will rely on hostnamed, localed, timedated D-Bus API

2012-01-27 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 27/01/12 00:00 did gyre and gimble: Daemons will work under sysvinit. Just need to be installed Cool, I'll keep it in mind. They shouldn't need anything special to be honest and I think systemd is required by basesystem anyway so these daemons will always be

[Mageia-dev] Fwd: gnome-boxes/distro integration

2012-01-27 Thread Olav Vitters
gnome-boxes maintainer asking that distributions add automatic installation support for their distro to the relevant components (gnome-boxes + other parts of the stack) -- Regards, Olav ---BeginMessage--- Hi, One of gnome-boxes[1] aims is to provide easy creation of virtual machines. This

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: gnome-boxes/distro integration

2012-01-27 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 27/01/12 10:50 did gyre and gimble: gnome-boxes maintainer asking that distributions add automatic installation support for their distro to the relevant components (gnome-boxes + other parts of the stack) Go Teuf!!! :) If no one else does this, I'll

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fosdem 2012 - Mageia stand

2012-01-27 Thread Marja van Waes
On 26/01/12 02:20, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote: On 25/01/12 08:26, Remco Rijnders wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 09:21:41AM +0100, Oliver wrote in 1327479701.21166.4.ca...@beteigeuze.oli-home: Am Sonntag, den 15.01.2012, 11:38 +0100 schrieb Oliver Burger: Calling again... Until now we have 19

Re: [Mageia-dev] mkinitrd and Mageia2

2012-01-27 Thread Frank Griffin
On 01/27/2012 05:02 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote: In dracut, udev is running and critical metadata is saved and preserved for systemd to use later. Col, Just as an aside, does this increased role of udev have anything to do with the automount breakage I posted about a few days back ? From the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: gnome-boxes/distro integration

2012-01-27 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 27/01/12 10:59 did gyre and gimble: 'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 27/01/12 10:50 did gyre and gimble: gnome-boxes maintainer asking that distributions add automatic installation support for their distro to the relevant components (gnome-boxes + other

Re: [Mageia-dev] mkinitrd and Mageia2

2012-01-27 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 27/01/12 13:16 did gyre and gimble: On 01/27/2012 05:02 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote: In dracut, udev is running and critical metadata is saved and preserved for systemd to use later. Col, Just as an aside, does this increased role of udev have anything to do

Re: [Mageia-dev] mkinitrd and Mageia2

2012-01-27 Thread Frank Griffin
On 01/27/2012 09:45 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote: Well it's complicated. The different DE's do things differently. AFAIK, GNOME has used udev for a long time, and I had it in my head that KDE did also, but they are totally separate implementations. But I do see here, that my USB stick is not

Re: [Mageia-dev] mkinitrd and Mageia2

2012-01-27 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 27/01/12 15:17 did gyre and gimble: On 01/27/2012 09:45 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote: Well it's complicated. The different DE's do things differently. AFAIK, GNOME has used udev for a long time, and I had it in my head that KDE did also, but they are totally

Re: [Mageia-dev] mkinitrd and Mageia2

2012-01-27 Thread Frank Griffin
On 01/27/2012 10:21 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote: I really don't think it's anything to do with HAL here. As I said, it's only urpmi stuff that uses HAL and I'm pretty certain the DE's long ago stopped doing that. OK, some updated testing: In KDELoad a DVD, get the device popup, and dismiss it.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: GNOME 3.4 will rely on hostnamed, localed, timedated D-Bus API

2012-01-27 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 27 janvier 2012 à 10:07 +, Colin Guthrie a écrit : 'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 27/01/12 00:00 did gyre and gimble: Daemons will work under sysvinit. Just need to be installed Cool, I'll keep it in mind. They shouldn't need anything special to be honest and I think

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: gnome-boxes/distro integration

2012-01-27 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 27 janvier 2012 à 11:50 +0100, Olav Vitters a écrit : gnome-boxes maintainer asking that distributions add automatic installation support for their distro to the relevant components (gnome-boxes + other parts of the stack) first step is just to copy mandriva.xml and clean it ( did

Re: [Mageia-dev] mkinitrd and Mageia2

2012-01-27 Thread Florian Hubold
Am 27.01.2012 16:35, schrieb Frank Griffin: On 01/27/2012 10:21 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote: I really don't think it's anything to do with HAL here. As I said, it's only urpmi stuff that uses HAL and I'm pretty certain the DE's long ago stopped doing that. So it appears that KDE is now

Re: [Mageia-dev] mkinitrd and Mageia2

2012-01-27 Thread Frank Griffin
On 01/27/2012 01:38 PM, Florian Hubold wrote: For reference, with a default setup KDE doesn't automatically mount removable media like GNOME does, this is the case since quite some time, IIRC it goes back to 4.0. As I said in my initial post about automounting, a week or so ago it was

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fosdem 2012 - Mageia stand

2012-01-27 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op vrijdag 27 januari 2012 12:56:10 schreef Marja van Waes: Nor have I, but I don't mind seeing the talks on youtube afterwards. Will all talks be recorded? i think only the bigger ones... but we may have a problem when the general assembly is there, because likely everyone will want to be

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fosdem 2012 - Mageia stand

2012-01-27 Thread Marja van Waes
On 27/01/12 21:06, Maarten Vanraes wrote: Op vrijdag 27 januari 2012 12:56:10 schreef Marja van Waes: Nor have I, but I don't mind seeing the talks on youtube afterwards. Will all talks be recorded? i think only the bigger ones... but we may have a problem when the general assembly is there,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fosdem 2012 - Mageia stand

2012-01-27 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op vrijdag 27 januari 2012 21:16:27 schreef Marja van Waes: On 27/01/12 21:06, Maarten Vanraes wrote: Op vrijdag 27 januari 2012 12:56:10 schreef Marja van Waes: Nor have I, but I don't mind seeing the talks on youtube afterwards. Will all talks be recorded? i think only the bigger

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: GNOME 3.4 will rely on hostnamed, localed, timedated D-Bus API

2012-01-27 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 27 janvier 2012 à 16:14 +, Colin Guthrie a écrit : 'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 27/01/12 15:52 did gyre and gimble: Le vendredi 27 janvier 2012 à 10:07 +, Colin Guthrie a écrit : 'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 27/01/12 00:00 did gyre and gimble: Daemons will

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fosdem 2012 - Mageia stand

2012-01-27 Thread Oliver Burger
2012/1/27 Maarten Vanraes al...@rmail.be: Op vrijdag 27 januari 2012 21:16:27 schreef Marja van Waes: but we may have a problem when the general assembly is there, because likely everyone will want to be there... I personally will want to be there, of course... I suppose I was the last one

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: GNOME 3.4 will rely on hostnamed, localed, timedated D-Bus API

2012-01-27 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op vrijdag 27 januari 2012 22:25:13 schreef Michael Scherer: [...] Systemd is just installed, it doesn't mean it's used. You need to install systemd-sysvinit for it to replace sysvinit. Yes, I know this is just installed and not used, but I am pretty sure that some people will complain.