Re: [Mageia-dev] texi2html

2011-10-17 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
On 16/10/2011 22:33, Thomas Spuhler wrote: > On Sunday, October 16, 2011 04:05:52 am Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: >> On 26/09/2011 17:34, Anssi Hannula wrote: >>> On 26.09.2011 15:47, nicolas vigier wrote: >>>> On Sat, 24 Sep 2011, Thomas Spuhler wrote: >>>>>

Re: [Mageia-dev] texi2html

2011-10-16 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
On 26/09/2011 17:34, Anssi Hannula wrote: > On 26.09.2011 15:47, nicolas vigier wrote: >> On Sat, 24 Sep 2011, Thomas Spuhler wrote: >>> But are you sure about texlive providing it? >> I don't know. It looks like it's not in the texlive package. > My impression (from a few years back I think) is th

Re: [Mageia-dev] Support policy

2010-12-09 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
Michael scherer wrote: why this kind of "competition"? It is up to you to explain why you see competition when i just state that we have obviously a different set of ressources. Let's say the first feeling I had in reading... ;-) [...] We should summarize what there is from what th

Re: [Mageia-dev] Support policy

2010-12-04 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
Michael Scherer wrote: Well, from a physical point of view, everything is limited, so saying "limited ressources" didn't indeed told much. I think that the ressources at Mandriva could be summarized as "around 1 to 3 full time people ( maybe more, maybe less, and likely not full time on the s

Re: [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?

2010-10-05 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
R James wrote: [...] I did make a few post-installation tweaks: 1. Remove msec. 2. Disable PulseAudio. 3. Delete /etc/X11/xinit.d/70net_applet (net_applet is a pig and not needed for static wired connection) Google Chromium is finally a browser that can handle gmail on low-resource systems.

Re: [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?

2010-09-27 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
2010/9/27 Thierry Vignaud > On 27 September 2010 20:36, R James wrote: > > Even the original Mandrake of 1998 was compiled for i586 (Pentium > > Classic or newer) > > Wrong! > Original mandriva was compiled i386. It was when we "merged" with > the original mandrake has even the same binary pac

Re: [Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?

2010-09-27 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
2010/9/27 Michael Scherer > Le lundi 27 septembre 2010 à 03:19 +0200, vfmBOFH a écrit : > > What about virtualization? > > > > Maybe we could set-up some kind of cluster of remote and dedicated > > vm's as a > > unique build system. Could be a good workaround over security and > > integrity issue

Re: [Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?

2010-09-27 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
2010/9/27 herman > On Sun, 2010-09-26 at 18:32 -0700, Frank Griffin wrote: > > Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: > > > IMHO one of the building problems was not massive automatic rebuilding > > > but avoid bottenlecks to the users when building goes wrong. > > I really

Re: [Mageia-dev] Will this work for a build system?

2010-09-26 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
2010/9/26 nicolas vigier > On Sun, 26 Sep 2010, joris dedieu wrote: > > > 2010/9/26 Olivier Blin : > > > > > > Because there are some authentication and integrity issues which are > not > > > simple to solve: we have to be sure that the binary packages really > come > > > from the unmodified SRPM

Re: [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?

2010-09-26 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
2010/9/26 andré > Thomas Backlund a écrit : > > >> Giuseppe Ghibò skrev 26.9.2010 14:59: >> >>> 2010/9/26 Thomas Backlund mailto:t...@iki.fi>> >>> >>>Giuseppe Ghibò skrev 26.9.2010 02:09: >>> > >>> >>>

Re: [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?

2010-09-26 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
2010/9/26 Thomas Backlund Giuseppe Ghibò skrev 26.9.2010 02:09: > > > Not exactly. I'm not talking in just using -march= but in >> also pushing -mfpmath=sse -msse (and maybe -msse2) , which should be >> much more than JUST 1-2% (1-2% is usually the benchmark >>

Re: [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?

2010-09-26 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
2010/9/26 Thomas Backlund Giuseppe Ghibò skrev 26.9.2010 02:09: > > > >> I don't want to deprive the fun of building a router or a firewall from >> >> an old P133/64 with two ethernet cards, or some mediabox, but often you >> can't (and sometimes you p

Re: [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?

2010-09-26 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
2010/9/26 Tux99 On Sun, 26 Sep 2010, Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: > > > Centos4 IS NOT a modern distro. It is a LTS started in 2005 and so it > > maintains 2005's original skeleton of kernel, gcc, glibc and X. That's > FIVE > > years old. > > I'm quite sur

Re: [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?

2010-09-26 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
2010/9/26 André Machado > > Common where? There are schools and universities are dismitting hardware > > > like with P4/2.4Ghz and 512MB RAM for whatever use (either server or > > desktop). And even older hardware no-ROHS, which should be dismantled > > carefully. > > You are seeing everything fr

Re: [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?

2010-09-25 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
2010/9/26 Tux99 > memory only (use 1GB swap?)? Were you able to install the 2010.1? > > Centos 4 installs and runs perfectly fine on a Pentium II 350Mhz with > 128MB RAM, I know it because I installed such a box for a friend as home > server running 24/7 (with DNS server, apache and some other st

Re: [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?

2010-09-25 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
2010/9/25 Tux99 Again, you are missing the point, these machines are not desktop PCs > running a GUI, any modern Linux distro still runs perfectly fine with > 64-128MB and 10-15 year old cpus when used for many headless purposes. > For instance? Apart DSL which distro can you start the installer

Re: [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?

2010-09-25 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
2010/9/25 R James > > I *definitely* do not want to see dropping support for everything that > doesn't do SSE2 (which was discussed in the Fedora thread you linked). > I read the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F12X86Support. IMHO optimizing for some ATOM specific CPU get 1% improvement,

Re: [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?

2010-09-25 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
> > Since the vast majority of new processors are 64-bit capable, I see no > point in *only* supporting the newest of the old CPUs. All the 32-bit > stuff will eventually die on its own anyways. > > I *definitely* do not want to see dropping support for everything that > doesn't do SSE2 (which was

Re: [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?

2010-09-25 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
2010/9/25 Tux99 > On Sat, 25 Sep 2010, Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: > > > IMHO the problem is not finding an architecture to fit the i586 or i686 > rpm > > flags, rather to find the minimum CPU and memory requirement worthwhile > for > > a decent usage. With KDE if we loo

Re: [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?

2010-09-25 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
2010/9/25 Filipe Rosset > On 09/25/2010 09:16 AM, R James wrote: > >> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Patrice BRUNELLE >> wrote: >> >>> Le vendredi 24 septembre 2010 à 15:51 -0500, R James a écrit : >>> Technically, the i686 started with the Pentium Pro. (Remember that? :o) >>