Re: [Mageia-dev] dual iso content

2011-04-18 Thread Hoyt Duff
The Midnight Commander (mc) is always nice to have. A very versatile command-line graphical file manager. $ ldd /usr/bin/mc linux-gate.so.1 = (0xe000) libslang.so.2 = /usr/lib/libslang.so.2 (0x4214b000) libgpm.so.2 = /lib/libgpm.so.2 (0x4194d000)

Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor)

2011-03-25 Thread Hoyt Duff
On 3/25/11, Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org wrote: Quote: yves wrote on Fri, 25 March 2011 09:42 Hi, QT4 is released since 2005, about... 6 years ? So, why is it usefull to maintain a package that becomes depreciated ? You are missing the

Re: [Mageia-dev] default kde media player

2011-03-11 Thread Hoyt Duff
On 3/11/11, Pierre Jarillon jaril...@abul.org wrote: A user does not want a player X or Y, we need only a player which works in any case without any trouble. Agreed. Part of the enjoyment of Linux is exploring the many, many options for any application. A novice will be happy with an app

Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox prefs: insertRelatedAfterCurrent

2011-03-07 Thread Hoyt Duff
On 3/7/11, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote: I've found that if I put it in a read later folder/list/bookmark, that there's a 70% chance that I'll I never read it :) I manage my voluminous tabs by organising them by separate window. When I have a window of links I wish to explore

Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox prefs: insertRelatedAfterCurrent

2011-03-06 Thread Hoyt Duff
On 3/6/11, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: So let's use upstream behavior, as this is what is documented everywhere ( from official documentation to random tutorial of people ), I can't disagree with your logic on this aspect and I support being in sync with upstream. Why should

Re: [Mageia-dev] texlive-texmf huge file

2011-03-05 Thread Hoyt Duff
500 floppy disks? On 3/5/11, Thomas Spuhler tho...@btspuhler.com wrote: We are now using texlive and a require is texlive-texmf a 293 Mb download. Is there any way to get around this. This package is not available to folks that still have a dial-up connection. It takes 30 minutes on a dsl

Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox prefs: insertRelatedAfterCurrent

2011-03-05 Thread Hoyt Duff
I've always set mine to false. When they open adjacent to the current tab (true) that always seems like reverse order when reading a book. For example, click on the links in a page that are page1, page2, page3 and so on in order. With 'true', the tabs show the pages in reverse order. -- Hoyt

Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-03 Thread Hoyt Duff
On 3/3/11, andre999 and...@laposte.net wrote: Personnally I like pse...@mageia.org, with real name and direct adresse optional. 1) anyone who wants to can give a phony name anyway. 2) @mageia.org lessens the personal spam problem, and looks more official as well. It will also give Mageia

Re: [Mageia-dev] Installs

2011-03-02 Thread Hoyt Duff
They dropped older app due in part to ... it is in perl ... Did all the perl-focused devs leave Mandriva? Aren't most of the Mandriva-unique tools in perl? On 3/2/11, Frank Griffin f...@roadrunner.com wrote: After some back-and-forth in MDV bug https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=62374 ,

Re: [Mageia-dev] time to switch from raw partitions to lvm?

2011-02-21 Thread Hoyt Duff
I think moving to LVM as the default will create too many complaints and support requests in the end. I found it an annoyance in Fedora as a regular user. -- Hoyt

Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs list test?

2011-02-17 Thread Hoyt Duff
I also have a problem with mageia bugzilla. While I have an account, have filed a few bug reports and have gotten mail from bugzilla-dae...@mageia.org, I cannot log in to my account and when I request a password change, I am told This email address is not bound to an account. The address is

Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs list test?

2011-02-17 Thread Hoyt Duff
What bug did you fill ? https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45 https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46 -- Hoyt

Re: [Mageia-dev] Where is mageia bugzilla

2011-02-16 Thread Hoyt Duff
Just to note, I've had two (minor, cosmetic, web-page related) bugs that I reported already fixed. Kudos! -- Hoyt

Re: [Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db

2011-02-14 Thread Hoyt Duff
Here's my thinking-outside-of-the-box suggetsion. Portmanteau From Wikipedia: Portmanteau comes from French porter, to carry + manteau, cloak (from Old French mantel, from Latin mantellum). In modern French, a portemanteau (or porte-manteaux) is a clothes valet, a coat-tree or similar article

Re: [Mageia-dev] background and theme path

2011-01-19 Thread Hoyt Duff
1. Leave them where they are for now (breaks less things) and 2. pursue standardization with freedesktop.org, then 3. adopt that standard. Done in three. -- Hoyt

Re: [Mageia-dev] background and theme path

2011-01-19 Thread Hoyt Duff
to maintain the status quo (especially since this item is not obvious to the typical newbie user) and frees time and resources for more pressing, if less ideological , needs. On 1/19/11, Olivier Blin mag...@blino.org wrote: Hoyt Duff hoytd...@gmail.com writes: 1. Leave them where

Re: [Mageia-dev] What to do for software having MDV/Mandriva in name

2011-01-16 Thread Hoyt Duff
On 1/16/11, Olivier Thauvin nanar...@nanardon.zarb.org wrote: So I am favor to import it with this name (we didn't rename RPM because it mean RedHat Package Manager...). At the risk of being called pedantic, RPM _now_ stands for RPM Package Manager in all its GNU recursive acronym goodness

Re: [Mageia-dev] Trouble building rkhunter RPM

2011-01-14 Thread Hoyt Duff
When I originally looked at rkhunter, it was unavailable in the Mandriva repos, or at least the ones I had enabled for the machine I was working on at the time. I see it's in contribs. Oh, well . . . Thanks! On 1/14/11, Oliver Burger oliver@googlemail.com wrote: Hoyt Duff hoytd

[Mageia-dev] Trouble building rkhunter RPM

2011-01-13 Thread Hoyt Duff
I posted this to the general list, but didn't receive any useful comments so far. I'm trying to learn a little about packaging and was attempting to build source and binary packages from a tarball with an embedded .spec file for rkhunter-1.3.8-1 and maybe submit it to Mageia with appropriate

Re: [Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly

2010-12-27 Thread Hoyt Duff
On 12/27/10, Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote: or packager could instead of doing all that work, fix it... That would be ideal, but probably not realistic. Many bugs are to be fixed upstream. Perhaps no bugs should be imported and packager could follow MDV Bugzilla to see if,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Setting NFS shars and making the process more user friendly

2010-12-27 Thread Hoyt Duff
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote: Op maandag 27 december 2010 17:52:43 schreef Hoyt Duff: On 12/27/10, Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote: or packager could instead of doing all that work, fix it... That would be ideal

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout

2010-12-13 Thread Hoyt Duff
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. ewil...@bex.net wrote: People who break laws are criminals - no ifs, ands, or buts, about it. People who break _criminal_ laws like murder and assault are criminals. People who break _civil_ laws like traffic or zoning are not usually

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two

2010-12-06 Thread Hoyt Duff
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: And that's not the question, this is a basic usability issue, if a rather important portion of the users associate a word with something, this sound sane to no reuse the same word to hold a different meaning in a very

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two

2010-12-06 Thread Hoyt Duff
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote: no negative meaning??? Paris Hilton anyone??? afaik any word has negative meaning... Snooki makes her look like a nun. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Polizzi -- Hoyt

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two

2010-12-06 Thread Hoyt Duff
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: Le mardi 07 décembre 2010 à 00:10 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : I find it strange that the most heavy threads here are naming issues... http://bikeshed.com/ ? -- Michael Scherer ... a metaphor indicating that you

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two

2010-12-05 Thread Hoyt Duff
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote: Since the packages in that repository are there because they're (potentially) encumbered by patents, why not call it for what it is, encumbered? -- Erin too difficult I suppose that's why nobody liked

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two

2010-12-05 Thread Hoyt Duff
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps we need an unrelated word that has meaning to Mageia, but infers uniqueness without being pejorative. I suggest calling it the paris repository, a place for unique and useful applications that cannot be

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two

2010-12-04 Thread Hoyt Duff
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 4:33 AM, andre999 and...@laposte.net wrote: Better than tainted :D Tainted makes me chuckle -- crude anatomical reference. -- Hoyt

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two

2010-12-02 Thread Hoyt Duff
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com wrote: 2010/12/2 Anssi Hannula anssi.hann...@iki.fi: For the record, I'm not a big fan of tainted name (too negative), but I can't think of anything better either, so... :) I agree, as restricted may be misleading

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two

2010-11-28 Thread Hoyt Duff
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Olivier Thauvin nanar...@nanardon.zarb.org wrote: I can't agree with the mirrors are free to not mirror this media, three reasons: The tainted repository is analogous to the current PLF repository, no? Why can't Mageia handle it the same way? Then it does

Re: [Mageia-dev] LibreOffice

2010-11-02 Thread Hoyt Duff
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: I am a member of the Mageia marketing team and as well as a LibreOffice marketing team member. Thanks for any informtion. Merci Marc Paré Could you employ your marketing-fu and come up with a better name than the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-10-06 Thread Hoyt Duff
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:11 PM, andré and...@laposte.net wrote: So far in simplified terms, for the education target, we have focus on school boards in US/Canada and Australia/New Zealand; focus on regional gov'ts in Germany. Do you have a link to any Mandriva docs that detail how the package

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-04 Thread Hoyt Duff
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote: If upstream can't accomplish this in their apps, how do you expect downstream to do it? Easy. Both upstream and downstream should obey the $BROWSER environment variable. Yeah, should :) Then you should file a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-09-30 Thread Hoyt Duff
Choosing a target market is more than making a listing of your competitors' markets and combining some words to create a unique-sounding market. And it's more that guessing that some as-yet-unidentified market can be grepped from the imagination. For Mageia, it's an expression of leadership. It

Re: [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?

2010-09-27 Thread Hoyt Duff
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote: Hum, we lack that particular ISO there: http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/mandriva-prehistory/ Olivier Guillaume might be interested... I might still have 5.2 and others you are missing. Want