[Mageia-dev] beta 4 installer notes

2013-04-09 Thread Liam R E Quin
I tried installing Mageia 3 Beta 4 on an ASUS 64-bit PC, a network install. A couple of problems I noticed: (1) insmoding xen_blkfront failed /lib/libDrakX/modules.pm line 96 (I was not using a virtual machine, this was an install onto a physical PC) (2) During installation

Re: [Mageia-dev] beta 4 installer notes

2013-04-09 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 06:38 +0200, Thierry Vignaud wrote: On 10 April 2013 03:44, Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net wrote: I tried installing Mageia 3 Beta 4 on an ASUS 64-bit PC, a network install. A couple of problems I noticed: (1) insmoding xen_blkfront failed /lib/libDrakX

Re: [Mageia-dev] perl-doc need by POD::Usage

2013-02-04 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2013-02-04 at 21:15 +0100, Olivier Thauvin wrote: If perl must require perl-doc, the split is just useless. Yes, you should be able to install perl without the doc. Having said that, a possible reason for the split is that they are updated in differing cycles. Liam -- Liam Quin -

Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push: libroffice

2013-01-27 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 06:37 +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Hi Please let in freeze push: libroffice-4.0.0.2 This is RC2, we have RC1. When to stop? It's not a difference here between a release candidate and a release... -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/

Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub2 vs. Grub Legacy in M3 [play nice, people]

2013-01-19 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 2013-01-19 at 12:42 +0100, André Salaün wrote: [...] But perhaps I am a stupid linux user since 13 or 14 years and I should have to buy Apple product or W8 ;-) I've been using Unix since V7 days and have been told on this list I shouldn't be using Cauldron because it's for more

Re: [Mageia-dev] Feedback on Mageia 3 beta1

2013-01-17 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2013-01-18 at 02:39 +0100, Davy Defaud wrote: You're right, I forgot that some people don't even know what is SSH... Doesn't matter in any case, as an ssh server won't be reachable by default unless you punch a hole in the firewall, which _is_ set up by a default install... -- Liam

Re: [Mageia-dev] GRUB can't see HD from chroot unless parent /dev is bind-mounted in chroot ?

2013-01-16 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 16:24 +, Colin Guthrie wrote: Personally I've been bind mounting /dev, /proc and /sys for years whenever doing any rescuecd etc. stuff. Partly because I have several LVM volumes where a static /dev/ wouldn't help anyway... But bind mounting /dev has just been part

Re: [Mageia-dev] GRUB can't see HD from chroot unless parent /dev is bind-mounted in chroot ?

2013-01-16 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 20:48 +0100, AL13N wrote: Op woensdag 16 januari 2013 11:30:27 schreef Liam R E Quin: Why not add a command to the rescue disk, bind-mount dir - mount /dev, /proc and /sys as /dir/dev etc for chroot because in fact, it's not really the correct solution (and there's

Re: [Mageia-dev] 3.0 release - some initial notes; failure

2013-01-08 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 13:41 +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi Liam, let me reply to your E-mail - not necessarily disagreeing. Thanks! On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 02:46:39 -0500 Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net wrote: Tried installing 3.0 beta over a Mandriva Cooker system today. Mageia-3-beta1

Re: [Mageia-dev] Kernel Panic after latest Mageia-3-Alpha2 s/w update c

2013-01-08 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 17:41 +, Claire Robinson wrote: It's actually Cauldron you're running Maurice. This issue is known, see the ML thread 'Boot borked cause procfs :((' from earlier today. It's also in the 3.0 beta DVD, as I reported yesterday. Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Booting on GPT + UEFI + Secure Boot...

2013-01-07 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 17:01 +0100, Olivier Thauvin wrote: I found the key of the issue: grub has not install because block number is to big (my /boot is at 1,6TB from the start of the disk). With my HP Elitebook I found that all the partitions were allocated, so I booted in Windows 7 (this was

Re: [Mageia-dev] df lying?

2013-01-07 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 12:54 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: On 2013-01-07 15:15 (GMT+0200) Anssi Hannula composed: $ df /disks/esata Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1 969063752 942471244 26592508 98% /disks/esata Do total space in df du output exclude

[Mageia-dev] 3.0 release - some initial notes; failure

2013-01-06 Thread Liam R E Quin
Tried installing 3.0 beta over a Mandriva Cooker system today. Mageia-3-beta1-x86_64-DVD.iso Some notes. Mostly about problems because I never got to see a working system, so the tone is probably more negative than I'd like. On boot, there was a long delay followed by Loading program and a

Re: [Mageia-dev] LastFm going subscription

2012-12-13 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2012-12-13 at 18:26 -0500, Charles A Edwards wrote: Beginning Tuesday 15 January 2013 radio streaming within the desktop client will only be available to Last.fm subscribers (monthly fee). Due to this should not lastfm-player either be dropped or moved to nonfree now before Mga3 goes

Re: [Mageia-dev] [ANN] [RFC] support for deltarpms in urpmi

2012-11-27 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 22:56 +0100, zezinho wrote: Em 27-11-2012 17:10, Thierry Vignaud escreveu: [...] - having urpmi select the right package o either deltarpm if there's one for installed_version - update_version path o or regular update package else Well, we should not

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia-dev Digest, Vol 27, Issue 85

2012-11-26 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 22:49 +0800, Joseph Wang wrote: Let me tell you about my day. [...] Most of us have jobs. Almost everyone here is a volunteer. But you are volunteering to be part of a team, and that involves fitting in with the team's larger goals. A set of astronomy-related packages

Re: [Mageia-dev] couchdb packaging

2012-11-25 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 16:06 +, Colin Guthrie wrote: Hi, Couchdb seems to be split into couchdb and couchdb-bin. This split seems daft to me. couchdb requires couchdb-bin and the only stuff in the couchdb package is config files... Why is there this complicated split? Is it so that

Re: [Mageia-dev] Utter frustration

2012-11-25 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 14:01 +, Anne Wilson wrote: Since there's no identification in the message, all I could suggest is a brute-force search of all files on the root or /usr partitons for the string ConsoleKit, which appears in the error message. Then, identify the package which owns

Re: [Mageia-dev] Draft of a Letter to the Software Freedom Law Center (SFLC).

2012-11-08 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2012-11-08 at 09:15 +, Donald Stewart wrote: On 8 November 2012 00:45, Johnny A. Solbu coo...@solbu.net wrote: On Tuesday 06 November 2012 23:39, Shlomi Fish wrote: Dear sirs or madams, To me, this sounds a little to generic, a little to unformal [...] No, this is wrong,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Draft of a Letter to the Software Freedom Law Center (SFLC).

2012-11-08 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2012-11-08 at 09:15 +, Donald Stewart wrote: On 8 November 2012 00:45, Johnny A. Solbu coo...@solbu.net wrote: On Tuesday 06 November 2012 23:39, Shlomi Fish wrote: Dear sirs or madams, To me, this sounds a little to generic, a little to unformal [...] No, this is wrong,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Adding a new font to the default install

2012-10-08 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 21:21 +0100, Donald Stewart wrote: Hello everyone, I saw this article today and I think that it would be great to add this to the default fonts that we have available as it would allow greater ease of access to people with dyslexia.

Re: [Mageia-dev] The shiny new Control Center

2012-09-30 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sun, 2012-09-30 at 20:13 +0200, Angelo Naselli wrote: Well to be honest that has been already discussed via irc, and it seems to be as you said a good thing, the real question is how to call it :) The usual choices are 1. an acronym few people will remember e.g. miascm (multi-interface

Re: [Mageia-dev] new fonts?

2012-09-28 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 2012-09-29 at 03:23 +0300, Anssi Hannula wrote: [resending from the right address; I wish evolution would fix that bug!] 3) Fix the issue. Fedora actually has DejaVu fonts as default with higher priority and Liberation fonts with a lower priority. Makes sense. [...] It'd be really

Re: [Mageia-dev] new fonts?

2012-09-28 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 2012-09-29 at 03:23 +0300, Anssi Hannula wrote: 3) Fix the issue. Fedora actually has DejaVu fonts as default with higher priority and Liberation fonts with a lower priority. Makes sense. [...] It'd be really nice if someone looked over our font packages and fonts config stuff and

Re: [Mageia-dev] new fonts?

2012-09-24 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2012-09-24 at 15:57 +0200, EatDirt wrote: I think we should pay attention to the default fonts we will choose for mga3, indeed. That's the very first reflex of any user, either you like, or you don't, that would even deserve a contest may be. Reaction to typefaces depends on several

Re: [Mageia-dev] new fonts?

2012-09-24 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2012-09-24 at 18:34 +0100, brian.sm...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: I assume any default font should have the complete UTF8 Character set? This isn't really meaningful, because of unification - fonts implement glyphs, not characters, and there are a great many Unicode characters that

Re: [Mageia-dev] halt and shutdown users: Still needed?

2012-09-17 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 14:56 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: Well according to folklore (which is about all I've got to go on here), before there were proper infrastructures in place to allow users to reboot machines, sysadmins might give trusted workstation users the passwords to these accounts

Re: [Mageia-dev] Merge MCC and KDE config center

2012-07-22 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sun, 2012-07-22 at 07:54 +0200, Pierre Jarillon wrote: I don't know if this is a safe way but it should be interesting to have a look on it. Speaking as gnome user, sounds awful. MCC is one of the strengths of the distribution, and the fact you can run it outside of kde or gnome is

Re: [Mageia-dev] don't update perl modules yet

2012-06-01 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 15:44 +0200, Jerome Quelin wrote: - perl-Graphics-Magick, from package graphicsmagick (maintainer: stormi) fails with Could not find a typemap for C type 'Graphics::Magick'. related to perl, but don't know exactly what the problem is.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Strange system stalls - neep a tip

2012-05-21 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 18:11 +0200, Robert Fox wrote: The problem occurs under both KDE and Gnome Basically, the system seems to freeze up (mouse moves) but nothing else - gkrellem freezes and no errors occur - it just seems to hang - but magically wake up again after some time (many

Re: [Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty

2012-03-08 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 17:27 +0100, Michael Scherer wrote: [...] Web hosting companies sometimes provide access to a serial console. Then I guess they can also take the step of installing agetty or mgetty and configure it, since they have to configure it anyway. This is not a good argument.

Re: [Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer

2012-03-08 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2012-03-09 at 04:11 +0100, Johnny A. Solbu wrote: If we deprecate and remove the abillity to use a text installer, we are effectlively blocking blind users from beeing able to install the system. The reason that I first started using Mandrake Linux years ago was that it was the first

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with systemd and /media.

2012-03-02 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2012-03-02 at 19:38 -0500, David W. Hodgins wrote: [...] I've since been thinking, it might be better if either systemd, or dracut could parse /etc/fstab, and automatically recreate any mountpoints under /media. +1 Or at worst comment them out, but not remove them - most users will

Re: [Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager

2012-02-20 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 11:59 +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote: No. Configuring a user computer should be left to end-user, not to packagers providing 'just click here' blackbox solutions. One of the reaons I switched, years ago, away from Debian to Mandrake Linux, was exactly this: debian packages

Re: [Mageia-dev] How broken are RPM dependencies allowed to be?

2011-12-13 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 16:31 -0800, Dan Fandrich wrote: I raised a bug ticket on drakxtools (#3731) because the RPM in Cauldron installs without complaints in Mageia 1 but won't work there because it requires a newer version of perl. The perl dependency in the RPM is listed as perl-base when it

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] Removing .la files

2011-06-10 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 17:34 +0200, Christiaan Welvaart wrote: If people are using a system with gnome installed to develop gnome, it's not strange they run into problems. This is nonsense, sorry. It's no stranger than a KDE-user wanting to recompile kwrite or krita. And I wonder why

Re: [Mageia-dev] why not disable bytecode interpreter in freetype2 ?

2011-05-20 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 01:56 +0100, Zé wrote: Seams your confused, plf freetype it simply put fonts worst,, thats why i also never used plf freetype, maybe you should read some mandriva discussions in ML. I normally use the plf freetype because it's so much better. And it's generally the

Re: [Mageia-dev] why not disable bytecode interpreter in freetype2 ?

2011-05-10 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 04:57 +0100, Zé wrote: In mandriva sincepatent expiration in freetype, fonts display wasnt smoth anymore and appeared ugly fonts, this used to exist just in plf.. Note that whether fonts are ugly is very subjective, and also varies depending on one's eyes. For example,

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-16 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 23:11 -0400, Marc Paré wrote: [...] I think what this all boils down to is, does the Mageia project want to actively seek out bugs and encourage its users to report bugs? If Mageia is interested in seriously quashing bugs, then the reporting process has to be

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github

2010-10-04 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 17:53 -0400, Robert Xu wrote: [...] would it be possible to move drakxtools slowly away from perl gtk? Or at least make perl gtk better (and provide a perlQt implementation?) In principle there could be a GDK port to use Qt, so the same *drak code would work with both