Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: fallback mode

2012-11-08 Thread andre999
Olav Vitters a écrit : On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 07:33:43PM -0500, andre999 wrote: Olav Vitters a écrit : On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 06:56:55PM -0500, andre999 wrote: I again suggest to read the wiki page for the issues with fallback mode. I've read the wiki page a few times. It contains a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: fallback mode

2012-11-07 Thread zezinho
Em 06-11-2012 10:01, Olav Vitters escreveu: In case the drivers are not good enough, GNOME 3 will be unusable. All is said here : I install lots of Mageia on bad hardware. Always used KDE that disables eyecandy if drivers or hardware suck. I don't think Gnome can afford Microsoft huge

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: fallback mode

2012-11-06 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 07:33:43PM -0500, andre999 wrote: Olav Vitters a écrit : On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 06:56:55PM -0500, andre999 wrote: Olav Vitters a écrit : ... This discussion has been held various times before. Please read the wiki link. The reason I'm forwarding the email is to get

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: fallback mode

2012-11-06 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 01:05:04AM +0100, JA Magallón wrote: I have connected my Atom netbook to a big monitor, and it handles perfecly the FullHD resolution. Gnome full mode works fine and fast. Its an Atom N450, graphics are recognised as N10 or Intel(R) Pineview GM. All this with the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: fallback mode

2012-11-06 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 05/11/12 23:01 did gyre and gimble: On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 11:39:41PM +0100, Olivier Blin wrote: Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl writes: On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 07:27:26PM +0100, Olivier Blin wrote: Even an Intel Core2 Duo (E8400) from 2008 + Intel Q35 chipset

[Mageia-dev] Fwd: fallback mode

2012-11-05 Thread Olav Vitters
fyi -- Regards, Olav ---BeginMessage--- I'm writing to inform you that the release team discussed https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointSeven/Features/DropOrFixFallbackMode yesterday. We've come to the conclusion that we can't maintain fallback mode in reasonable quality, and are better off dropping

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: fallback mode

2012-11-05 Thread Olivier Blin
Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl writes: From: Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com I'm writing to inform you that the release team discussed https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointSeven/Features/DropOrFixFallbackMode yesterday. We've come to the conclusion that we can't maintain fallback mode

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: fallback mode

2012-11-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 07:27:26PM +0100, Olivier Blin wrote: Even an Intel Core2 Duo (E8400) from 2008 + Intel Q35 chipset from 2007 can not handle the load with Gnome Shell on a 1920x1080 display, using accelerated GL drivers. Sure it is not using llvmpipe accidentally? What kind of driver

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: fallback mode

2012-11-05 Thread Olivier Blin
Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl writes: On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 07:27:26PM +0100, Olivier Blin wrote: Even an Intel Core2 Duo (E8400) from 2008 + Intel Q35 chipset from 2007 can not handle the load with Gnome Shell on a 1920x1080 display, using accelerated GL drivers. Sure it is not using

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: fallback mode

2012-11-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 11:39:41PM +0100, Olivier Blin wrote: Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl writes: On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 07:27:26PM +0100, Olivier Blin wrote: Even an Intel Core2 Duo (E8400) from 2008 + Intel Q35 chipset from 2007 can not handle the load with Gnome Shell on a 1920x1080

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: fallback mode

2012-11-05 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *, On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com To: distributor-l...@gnome.org Cc: GNOME release team release-t...@gnome.org [...] - move background rendering entirely into

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: fallback mode

2012-11-05 Thread andre999
Olav Vitters a écrit : fyi Sujet: fallback mode De: Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com Date: 2012-11-05 10:42 Pour: distributor-l...@gnome.org Copie: GNOME release team release-t...@gnome.org I'm writing to inform you that the release team discussed

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: fallback mode

2012-11-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 06:56:55PM -0500, andre999 wrote: Olav Vitters a écrit : fyi Sujet: fallback mode De: Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com Date: 2012-11-05 10:42 Pour: distributor-l...@gnome.org Copie: GNOME release team release-t...@gnome.org I'm writing to inform you that

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: fallback mode

2012-11-05 Thread JA Magallón
On 11/06/2012 12:01 AM, Olav Vitters wrote: On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 11:39:41PM +0100, Olivier Blin wrote: Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl writes: On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 07:27:26PM +0100, Olivier Blin wrote: Even an Intel Core2 Duo (E8400) from 2008 + Intel Q35 chipset from 2007 can not handle

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: fallback mode

2012-11-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 12:56:05AM +0100, Christian Lohmaier wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com To: distributor-l...@gnome.org Cc: GNOME release team

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: fallback mode

2012-11-05 Thread andre999
Olav Vitters a écrit : On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 06:56:55PM -0500, andre999 wrote: Olav Vitters a écrit : ... This discussion has been held various times before. Please read the wiki link. The reason I'm forwarding the email is to get feedback about the impact on Mageia. For the impact on

Re: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: fallback mode

2012-11-05 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *, On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:33 AM, andre999 andre999...@laposte.net wrote: Olav Vitters a écrit : On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 06:56:55PM -0500, andre999 wrote: Olav Vitters a écrit : [...] Nothing in the visual appearance of gnome3 could not be displayed efficiently on gnome2 on machines