Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME plans

2012-06-13 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 08:17:44PM +0800, Kira wrote: > I got a major concern about the input method in GNOME 3.6+. > According to some source from the CJK community here and in China, > GNOME3 would default to iBus since 3.6+ and very hard to change the > input method since it's hard-coded. Are w

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME plans

2012-06-05 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/6/5 Colin Guthrie : > You've maybe not been following the Gnome OS stuff then? I have and it's > very interesting. As you know I've been a KDE developer for many years, > but I much prefer the Gnome approach to lower level things. People > involved in the Gnome project are very supportive to

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME plans

2012-06-05 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 04/06/12 16:51 did gyre and gimble: > 2012/6/4 Olav Vitters : >> > On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 09:13:53PM +0800, Kira wrote: >>> >> Well, I think the main point of arguing about this issue is that most >>> >> people is mostly used to other input method and they do

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME plans

2012-06-04 Thread Thomas Backlund
04.06.2012 22:08, Olav Vitters skrev: > On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 09:49:52PM +0300, Thomas Backlund wrote: >> 04.06.2012 20:32, Olav Vitters skrev: >>> On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 05:51:11PM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: >> >>> >>> - Please change your wording. You have zero say in what goes on at >>>

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME plans

2012-06-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 09:49:52PM +0300, Thomas Backlund wrote: > 04.06.2012 20:32, Olav Vitters skrev: > > On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 05:51:11PM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > > > > > - Please change your wording. You have zero say in what goes on at > > gnome.org, nor about me. If you start b

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME plans

2012-06-04 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/6/4 Olav Vitters : > On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 08:17:39PM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: >> 2012/6/4 Olav Vitters : >> > On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 05:51:11PM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: >> >> Leaving out the crap about "change your wording" and whatever. > [..] >> BTW: Pls, calm down a bit, I a

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME plans

2012-06-04 Thread Thomas Backlund
04.06.2012 20:32, Olav Vitters skrev: > On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 05:51:11PM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > > - Please change your wording. You have zero say in what goes on at > gnome.org, nor about me. If you start by telling me what I must and > must not do, it is better to not respond. N

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME plans

2012-06-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 08:17:39PM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > 2012/6/4 Olav Vitters : > > On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 05:51:11PM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > > Leaving out the crap about "change your wording" and whatever. [..] > BTW: Pls, calm down a bit, I am quite amazed how emotional you

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME plans

2012-06-04 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
This chapter is wrong: > BTW: We are seeing this already in the forums: people see a setting in > MCC and then the same in KDE/Gnome. They will obviously use the first > they see - if that differs to the setting in MCC confusion is on the > way. The las part should read: "- if that differs to the

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME plans

2012-06-04 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/6/4 Olav Vitters : > On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 05:51:11PM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Leaving out the crap about "change your wording" and whatever. > - Maybe to clarify my point: When using GNOME, there should not be any >  need to resort to a distro specific configuration tool. E.g. xorg

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME plans

2012-06-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 05:51:11PM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > 2012/6/4 Olav Vitters : > > On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 09:13:53PM +0800, Kira wrote: > >> Well, I think the main point of arguing about this issue is that most > >> people is mostly used to other input method and they don't care about

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME plans

2012-06-04 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/6/4 Olav Vitters : > On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 09:13:53PM +0800, Kira wrote: >> Well, I think the main point of arguing about this issue is that most >> people is mostly used to other input method and they don't care about >> iBus... >> >> Still 2 points to be answered especially for Mageia here

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME plans

2012-06-04 Thread Kira
在 Mon, 04 Jun 2012 22:24:30 +0800, Olav Vitters 寫道: On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 09:13:53PM +0800, Kira wrote: I hope this won't get some misunderstanding between you and me, since there's some obvious different viewpoint. :) 1. In MCC, we can set up the input method in localedrake, and this setti

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME plans

2012-06-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 09:13:53PM +0800, Kira wrote: > Well, I think the main point of arguing about this issue is that most > people is mostly used to other input method and they don't care about > iBus... > > Still 2 points to be answered especially for Mageia here: > > 1. In MCC, we can set u

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME plans

2012-06-04 Thread Kira
在 Mon, 04 Jun 2012 20:46:08 +0800, Olav Vitters 寫道: GNOME seems to go to iBus. If GNOME chooses something, then of course it'll be that way in Mageia, unless work is done. And I'm not a developer, nor the best maintainer.. I'm involved in upstream, so can change direction. Thanks for your repl

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME plans

2012-06-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 08:17:44PM +0800, Kira wrote: > I got a major concern about the input method in GNOME 3.6+. > > According to some source from the CJK community here and in China, > > GNOME3 would default to iBus since 3.6+ and very hard to change the > > input method since it's hard-cod

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME plans

2012-06-04 Thread Kira
在 Mon, 04 Jun 2012 20:12:17 +0800, Olav Vitters 寫道: GNOME: - Various releases of GNOME 3.5.x; another one being released atm - 3.5.x will at one point require a really new systemd (with hibernate/sleep functionality; in the systemd announcement Lennart said he'd explain soon in a blogpos

[Mageia-dev] GNOME plans

2012-06-04 Thread Olav Vitters
GNOME: - Various releases of GNOME 3.5.x; another one being released atm - 3.5.x will at one point require a really new systemd (with hibernate/sleep functionality; in the systemd announcement Lennart said he'd explain soon in a blogpost) - GNOME online accounts 3.5.x at one point will dep