[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Olivier Thauvin
Hi there, I just try to install a cauldron to setup a test IPv6 firewall/router. To setup server I do a minimum install: - /boot on its own partition - /var /tmp and swap on lvm - select no packages categories but yes install doc - no post configuration, so no X11 (hey it's a server) At boot the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 09:24 did gyre and gimble: Hi there, I just try to install a cauldron to setup a test IPv6 firewall/router. To setup server I do a minimum install: - /boot on its own partition - /var /tmp and swap on lvm - select no packages categories but

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Olivier Thauvin
* Colin Guthrie (mag...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 09:24 did gyre and gimble: Hi there, I just try to install a cauldron to setup a test IPv6 firewall/router. To setup server I do a minimum install: - /boot on its own partition - /var /tmp

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/3/6 Olivier Thauvin nanar...@nanardon.zarb.org: * Colin Guthrie (mag...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 09:24 did gyre and gimble: Hi there, I just try to install a cauldron to setup a test IPv6 firewall/router. To setup server I do a minimum

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Johnny A. Solbu
On Tuesday 06 March 2012 13:38, Olivier Thauvin wrote: All sys admin expect to have a tty on first console Besides, most guides on the net suggest using tty1 if X fail for some reason. -- Johnny A. Solbu PGP key ID: 0xFA687324 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/3/6 Johnny A. Solbu coo...@solbu.net: On Tuesday 06 March 2012 13:38, Olivier Thauvin wrote: All sys admin expect to have a tty on first console Besides, most guides on the net suggest using tty1 if X fail for some reason. Yes, that was also one of the arguments in the discussions. For

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Barry Jackson
On 06/03/12 12:46, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: 2012/3/6 Olivier Thauvinnanar...@nanardon.zarb.org: * Colin Guthrie (mag...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 09:24 did gyre and gimble: Hi there, I just try to install a cauldron to setup a test IPv6

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/3/6 Barry Jackson zen25...@zen.co.uk: On 06/03/12 12:46, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: 2012/3/6 Olivier Thauvinnanar...@nanardon.zarb.org: * Colin Guthrie (mag...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 09:24 did gyre and gimble: Hi there, I just try to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 12:38 did gyre and gimble: * Colin Guthrie (mag...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 09:24 did gyre and gimble: Hi there, I just try to install a cauldron to setup a test IPv6 firewall/router. To setup server

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Colin Guthrie
What is even more confusing currently is that switching to tty2, logging in as root and running 'systemctl restart prefdm.service' restarts the dm back on tty7 anyway :/ No it doesn't. It starts it on the next available vt. If you login on tty2 and have switched to all ttys from 3-6 (and thus

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Frank Griffin
On 03/06/2012 08:23 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 12:38 did gyre and gimble: * Colin Guthrie (mag...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 09:24 did gyre and gimble: Hi there, I just try to install a cauldron to setup

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 13:23, Colin Guthrie mag...@colin.guthr.ie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 12:38 did gyre and gimble: * Colin Guthrie (mag...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 09:24 did gyre and gimble: Hi there, I just try to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 12:38 did gyre and gimble: No text terminal at all? Not on tty2 or 3? Indeed, alt + F2 show the login prompt. But before I pressed alt + F2 ps was not showing any *getty program, a bit confusing, especially since there is nothing on first

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 06/03/12 13:33 did gyre and gimble: There has been a lot of discussion about this, and I'd just like some clarification of how the folks implementing thought it was supposed to turn out. My understanding was that the DM was to start on tty1, and some lower

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Pascal Terjan at 06/03/12 13:34 did gyre and gimble: On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 13:23, Colin Guthrie mag...@colin.guthr.ie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 12:38 did gyre and gimble: * Colin Guthrie (mag...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Olivier

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/3/6 Pascal Terjan pter...@gmail.com: On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 13:23, Colin Guthrie mag...@colin.guthr.ie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 12:38 did gyre and gimble: * Colin Guthrie (mag...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 09:24 did

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Frank Griffin
On 03/06/2012 08:42 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote: If you are booting to graphical.target then some subset of the lower ttys would automatically start X+dm on that tty when you switch to it, but if you boot to multi-user.target it would show you getty. By multi-user target do you mean level 3 ?

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 06/03/12 13:56 did gyre and gimble: On 03/06/2012 08:42 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote: If you are booting to graphical.target then some subset of the lower ttys would automatically start X+dm on that tty when you switch to it, but if you boot to multi-user.target

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 06/03/12 14:25 did gyre and gimble: On 03/06/2012 09:10 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote: Sorry, I was unclear in my last email. I've not enabled the ability to start a second X+DM yet (it needs changes to the DM's themselves which I've not looked at - tho' it should

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Frank Griffin
On 03/06/2012 09:53 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote:.. Sorry, I'm clearly not writing very eloquently today!! Dynamic getty's should work fine. I am using them here and even the initial message in this thread from Nanar said he also had it working (well his reply to m y response did). (Just to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 06/03/12 17:57 did gyre and gimble: 2012/3/6 Colin Guthrie mag...@colin.guthr.ie: 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 06/03/12 16:56 did gyre and gimble: 2012/3/6 Frank Griffin f...@roadrunner.com: On 03/06/2012 11:22 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: If

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Thomas Backlund
06.03.2012 20:36, Colin Guthrie skrev: 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 06/03/12 17:57 did gyre and gimble: Ah, ok, I understand your point now. The big question is: What is the time span we are talking about here? A week, month? Would you think you can achieve this better solution

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 14:28:38 schreef Colin Guthrie: [...] Now I'm not sure on the logic inside the Xserver that is used to search for a free getty. it maybe starts from the current one and counts up. If so, this logic should (IMO) be changed to start searching from 1 that way it would

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 19:41 did gyre and gimble: Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 14:28:38 schreef Colin Guthrie: [...] Now I'm not sure on the logic inside the Xserver that is used to search for a free getty. it maybe starts from the current one and counts up. If so, this

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 20:50:11 schreef Colin Guthrie: [...] Yeah. I would agree there has to be a limit. I'd say RC2 should be that limit. If I've not found a better way of doing things by then, I'll do whatever is needed to make a getty appear... There is no RC2 planned...

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 20:52:02 schreef Colin Guthrie: 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 19:41 did gyre and gimble: Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 14:28:38 schreef Colin Guthrie: [...] Now I'm not sure on the logic inside the Xserver that is used to search for a free getty. it

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 20:09 did gyre and gimble: Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 20:52:02 schreef Colin Guthrie: 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 19:41 did gyre and gimble: Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 14:28:38 schreef Colin Guthrie: [...] Now I'm not sure on the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 21:19:49 schreef Colin Guthrie: 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 20:09 did gyre and gimble: Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 20:52:02 schreef Colin Guthrie: 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 19:41 did gyre and gimble: Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 20:29 did gyre and gimble: Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 21:19:49 schreef Colin Guthrie: 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 20:09 did gyre and gimble: Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 20:52:02 schreef Colin Guthrie: 'Twas brillig, and Maarten

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Luc Menut
Le 06/03/2012 14:35, Colin Guthrie a écrit : 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 12:38 did gyre and gimble: No text terminal at all? Not on tty2 or 3? Indeed, alt + F2 show the login prompt. But before I pressed alt + F2 ps was not showing any *getty program, a bit confusing,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

2012-03-06 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Luc Menut at 06/03/12 23:24 did gyre and gimble: Le 06/03/2012 14:35, Colin Guthrie a écrit : 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 12:38 did gyre and gimble: No text terminal at all? Not on tty2 or 3? Indeed, alt + F2 show the login prompt. But before I pressed