Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2012-01-03 Thread Buchan Milne
On Sunday, 11 December 2011 19:43:35 Florian Hubold wrote: \ Whatever the decision is, maybe we could tie this to some conditions: Only allow backports if there are near-zero security/critical bugs for the stable release or if there are no open bugs for the package in question? Well, my

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2012-01-03 Thread Buchan Milne
On Saturday, 10 December 2011 13:32:12 Michael Scherer wrote: Le mardi 06 décembre 2011 à 00:56 +0200, Thomas Backlund a écrit : Now, here comes the question about backports once again. We are now 6+ months into Mageia 1, and we are nowhere closer to opening backports that we were

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2012-01-03 Thread AL13N
[...] At some stage we also need to look at providing vulnerability data in a suitable format that supports automated validation (e.g. OVAL?), and a site able to browse advisories. If this means less work, and is relatively easy to do by package maintainers, then, this looks like quite a good

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2012-01-03 Thread Angelo Naselli
martedì 3 gennaio 2012 alle 10:45, Buchan Milne ha scritto: -Build package from source (worse) - I would guess about 20% -Rebuild cauldron package on stable release (same) - I wold guess about 10% IMO you're very optimistic here :) I think this is true for expert users, so the ones who started

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2011-12-11 Thread Angelo Naselli
sabato 10 dicembre 2011 alle 17:09, Thomas Backlund ha scritto: Sorry, buth this wont work in reality... Consider this: version X in Mageia 1 version X+1 in Cauldron version X+1 gets backported. version X+2 uploaded in Cauldron version X+2 cant be backported (depends on updated

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2011-12-11 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op zondag 11 december 2011 11:41:02 schreef Angelo Naselli: sabato 10 dicembre 2011 alle 17:09, Thomas Backlund ha scritto: Sorry, buth this wont work in reality... Consider this: version X in Mageia 1 version X+1 in Cauldron version X+1 gets backported. version X+2

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2011-12-11 Thread Florian Hubold
Am 11.12.2011 17:11, schrieb Maarten Vanraes: Op zondag 11 december 2011 11:41:02 schreef Angelo Naselli: sabato 10 dicembre 2011 alle 17:09, Thomas Backlund ha scritto: Sorry, buth this wont work in reality... Consider this: version X in Mageia 1 version X+1 in Cauldron version X+1 gets

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2011-12-11 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op zondag 11 december 2011 18:43:35 schreef Florian Hubold: [...] just my 0.02€ Whatever the decision is, maybe we could tie this to some conditions: Only allow backports if there are near-zero security/critical bugs for the stable release or if there are no open bugs for the package in

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2011-12-10 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mardi 06 décembre 2011 à 01:29 +0200, Anssi Hannula a écrit : The biggest problem for me is that it is really difficult to test any changes, one'd need a mockup of the whole buildsystem... and I don't want to propose any patches blind :) 2 vm + setup of puppet should be able to fully

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2011-12-10 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mardi 06 décembre 2011 à 00:56 +0200, Thomas Backlund a écrit : Now, here comes the question about backports once again. We are now 6+ months into Mageia 1, and we are nowhere closer to opening backports that we were at Mageia 1 release time. Because of that there are 3rdparty repos

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2011-12-10 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op zaterdag 10 december 2011 12:32:12 schreef Michael Scherer: Le mardi 06 décembre 2011 à 00:56 +0200, Thomas Backlund a écrit : Now, here comes the question about backports once again. We are now 6+ months into Mageia 1, and we are nowhere closer to opening backports that we were

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2011-12-10 Thread Thomas Backlund
Michael Scherer skrev 10.12.2011 13:32: Le mardi 06 décembre 2011 à 00:56 +0200, Thomas Backlund a écrit : Now, here comes the question about backports once again. We are now 6+ months into Mageia 1, and we are nowhere closer to opening backports that we were at Mageia 1 release time.

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2011-12-07 Thread Thomas Backlund
Anssi Hannula skrev 6.12.2011 01:29: On 06.12.2011 00:56, Thomas Backlund wrote: Now, here comes the question about backports once again. We are now 6+ months into Mageia 1, and we are nowhere closer to opening backports that we were at Mageia 1 release time. Because of that there are

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2011-12-07 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 07.12.2011 21:06, Thomas Backlund wrote: Anssi Hannula skrev 6.12.2011 01:29: [1] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2633 Yeah, this is another thing that needs to be fixed regardless of what we do with backports. for now we have just disabled markrel for updates so it does not

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2011-12-07 Thread Thomas Backlund
Anssi Hannula skrev 7.12.2011 21:37: On 07.12.2011 21:06, Thomas Backlund wrote: Anssi Hannula skrev 6.12.2011 01:29: [1] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2633 Yeah, this is another thing that needs to be fixed regardless of what we do with backports. for now we have just disabled

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2011-12-07 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 07.12.2011 21:39, Thomas Backlund wrote: Anssi Hannula skrev 7.12.2011 21:37: On 07.12.2011 21:06, Thomas Backlund wrote: Anssi Hannula skrev 6.12.2011 01:29: [1] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2633 Yeah, this is another thing that needs to be fixed regardless of what we do

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2011-12-07 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 07.12.2011 21:52, Anssi Hannula wrote: On 07.12.2011 21:39, Thomas Backlund wrote: Anssi Hannula skrev 7.12.2011 21:37: On 07.12.2011 21:06, Thomas Backlund wrote: Anssi Hannula skrev 6.12.2011 01:29: [1] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2633 Yeah, this is another thing that

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2011-12-07 Thread Thomas Backlund
Anssi Hannula skrev 8.12.2011 01:58: On 07.12.2011 21:52, Anssi Hannula wrote: On 07.12.2011 21:39, Thomas Backlund wrote: Anssi Hannula skrev 7.12.2011 21:37: On 07.12.2011 21:06, Thomas Backlund wrote: Anssi Hannula skrev 6.12.2011 01:29: [1] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2633

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2011-12-06 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le mardi 6 décembre 2011 00:29:03, Anssi Hannula a écrit : Using a separate branch is also a cleaner way of providing backports, and makes it easy to separate changes needed only for Cauldron (or backports). Hm, how does this help with enabling backports (i.e. compared to simply using

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2011-12-05 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op maandag 05 december 2011 23:56:25 schreef Thomas Backlund: [...] Using a separate branch is also a cleaner way of providing backports, and makes it easy to separate changes needed only for Cauldron (or backports). agreed

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2011-12-05 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 06.12.2011 00:56, Thomas Backlund wrote: Now, here comes the question about backports once again. We are now 6+ months into Mageia 1, and we are nowhere closer to opening backports that we were at Mageia 1 release time. Because of that there are 3rdparty repos popping up

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Opening Backports (once again...)

2011-12-05 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op dinsdag 06 december 2011 00:29:03 schreef Anssi Hannula: On 06.12.2011 00:56, Thomas Backlund wrote: Now, here comes the question about backports once again. [...] Using a separate branch is also a cleaner way of providing backports, and makes it easy to separate changes needed only