On Wednesday 14 September 2011 16:46, Michael scherer wrote:
there will be free food in the fridge
Ahh. thank you.
I especially loved the eggs and coffee.
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overiding the default and it will then suggest to install an
MTA, as the default is not used?
I frequently do this in order to receive the reports from all machines in one
location, and I imagine others also do.
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If installation is canceled, it should not configure the email.
If installation is canceled, Mageia is not installed properly and boot loader
is missing.
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after install to enable it.
Changing msec's default config will influense what happens to a system after OS
install in future releases.
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guess what I'm saying is, configure msec to Not send mail if an MTA is not
found and send if one is found.
Not shure how much work that would require thou. :-)=
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mail with reports if an MTA is installed. The field even says something to the
effect of what user should receive the reports. if nothing is entered, root
receive the mail.
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releases only.
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beat me to it.
I've also been thinking of starting to respond to such posts and point out that
they are polluting the list with useless garbage.
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would then be first in search
order.
Sounds like a good idea.
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On Sunday 16 October 2011 17:24, Florian Hubold wrote:
Seems to me noone is interested in msec anymore.
Perhaps they don't know what to say, or they don't have any other meaningfull
things to say than what's already been said.
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as the only reason and update release
version as a result, won't someone starts complain that I didn't provide a
reason for the commit?
(I often see this on the cooker list)
And again: Is this documented anywhere, other that in the mailinglist archive?
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are not Free software, most is proprietary, I
believe.
Mageia should separate packages in the same maner. One repo/folder for taintet
and one for proprietary/restricted.
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On Tuesday 01 November 2011 06:56, David W. Hodgins wrote:
Merging /usr into / would require a large amount of work,
In my oppinion, that single change would be the most stupid change in an
operating system ever performed.
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if I have /usr on a separate
partition?
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. :-)=
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around. We have to figure out
if the tool is to be used with root priviliges to work properly, and have it
installed in sbin instead of bin.
Most software does not require root priviliges to run properly, unlike old
versions of Windows, and hence belong in bin, not sbin.
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have allways believed that
for as long as I can remember. My reactions are my responsibility.
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On Wednesday 02 November 2011 17:41, nicolas vigier wrote:
Just in case it was not clear enough from previous messages in this thread
Hehe. That was a good one. :-)=
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is in nonfree/release?
I vote yes.
- ATI/AMD Radeon cards (free driver)
As supposed to a driver one have to pay for? :-)=
(Or do you mean it is free as in Free Software?)
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care about freedom, you want powerfull software.
It is precisely critical components that matters, when it comes to freedom.
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of Windows and OS X. But they
are not choosing freedom in any of these choices.
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On Thursday 10 November 2011 21:31, andre999 wrote:
BTW, the most powerful software on my system is the kernel
Hehe. That was a good one. I liked that one. ;-)=
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(they call it media) is not Free Software.
http://sauerbraten.org/README.html#license
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as unmaintained, and I believe you can't use SVN to do this.
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On Sunday 20 November 2011 19:43, nicolas vigier wrote:
What do you think ?
I think it's a good idea.
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the oppurtunity. ;-)=
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on it's users, or in other
ways try to hamper how we operate our computers. And I don't believe they are
spying, but we can't check for ourself that they don't.
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license is allowed in the project. The reason for GPLv2 adoption is that it
allows a wider distribution.
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On Friday 16 December 2011 10:58, Anssi Hannula wrote:
IMO init scripts should mount /usr as rw unless /etc/fstab instructs to
mount it as read-only.
Agreed.
As far as I'm conserned, it should always comply with the instructions in
/etc/fstab.
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On Friday 16 December 2011 19:16, Colin Guthrie wrote:
Just in case you didn't notice, X11 now starts on tty1 by default.
Why this change?
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that ain't the intetion. ;-)=
I'd sugest Obsoleted in: mga2
A combination of that and Anssi's suggestion could work.
# Obsoleted in: mga2 - added 2011-04
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Another friend of mine which is not in any of these lists, and is blind, was
surprised to hear about this change, and was wondering whether this was a
Mageia specifi change. I said I believe it was.
you're kidding...
No, we're not.
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the graphical environment are more than one should
think.
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On Sunday 18 December 2011 17:23, Sander Lepik wrote:
F1-F6 for graphical login, F7-F11 for console.
I can live with that. ;-)=
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login in tty7
- usage of SysReq key brings you to a text login in tty7
In short: all activities (wanted or forced by malfunction) to go to a
text console should take you to a text login (tty7 or higher).
Agreed. Good point.
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will get a
small notice that they are missing this pakcage.
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On Saturday 31 December 2011 15:09, Florian Hubold wrote:
I've proposed a task-mageia-packager package some time ago,
This sounds like a good idea.
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I missing something?
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be to implement thou. Just thinking out
loud. ;-)=
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shut down?
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it to this day.
The only modern forum I use is facebook, only because it forces everyone to
use their actuall names. I use it soley for the purpose of keeping in contact
with friends who don't like email and IRC to much. :-)=
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seriously don't believe All of the mirrors will start to remove Mandriva
from their servers. Especially those who still have old releases. Some mirrors
still have everything as far back as MDK 7.2.
So, some mirrors will exist even if Mandriva closes down.
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to avoid destruction.
Many never use this feature, fearing it could destroy the system, prompting a
reinstall.
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Not orphaned.
Because of this we don't trust it.
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it.
The example from way back in MDK 9.1 is the example I remember from the top of
my head, simply because it wanted to uninstall my entire graphical system.
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to the same addresses that at the same time fails traceroute from the
guest, works fine.
Have anyone else seen this happening?
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hand it
fixes some bugs or security holes, it's worth considering.
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or reviewing
them, hunting for a particular fix?
To some people, that magic trick is not obvious.
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, they believe it
is how things are supposed to work.
If they're not happy with how the system works, they often conclude that Linux
Sucks Ass, and move back to Windows or OS X.
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On Thursday 12 January 2012 19:01, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
Updating from 1.3.2 to 1.3.3 would not be in compliance with
the policy (if not in one of the three exception cases) - this is what
I have called stupid policy (and still do).
Hear, hear!
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to keep using it.
:-)=
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On Saturday 21 January 2012 00:36, andre999 wrote:
Does that sound ok ?
In my opinion, yes.
It is more accurate then the current text.
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On Monday 23 January 2012 16:57, EatDirt wrote:
I have always used
mount to see what was actually mounted as disk or media.
Mount also list how it is mounted, not just where. (e.g. ro, rw, noexec etc.)
df can't do this.
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I have always signed my emails for the last 12 years, or so.
If it ain't signed or the signature fail validation, I didn't send it. :-)=
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in plain text...
I noticed that too.
Hopefully he'll fix that now. ;-)=
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to systemd as default in order to
more fully test it. But to revert to sysvinit as the default for mga2
release.
I thought this was the case, too.
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is that it will be included in future releases, including mga2.
As to why it was not included in both repos I don't know.
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On Saturday 18 February 2012 16:51, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
As to why it was not included in both repos I don't know.
rindolf is looking into it now, so hopefully it's fixed today
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-broken.txt (Broken kernel
3.2.6-desktop-3.mga2)
http://www.solbu.net/mageia-dracut/lsinitrd.txt (working older kernel
3.2.1-desktop-2.mga2)
I got a broken system after latest updates, which was the first updates in a
few weeks because i don't run the cauldron VBox image to often.
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this (nothing in bin/ except two plymout
binaries), but I've not been able to get anyone who can then
subsequently recreate the problem running dracut manually...
If you can, please do get in touch.
I'm willing to try. :-)=
I just don't know what to do.
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I compared the existing, broken initrd with the new foo, in case it's
interesting:
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# ll foo.img /boot/initrd-3.2.6-desktop-3.mga2.img
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2572041 feb. 18 20:37
/boot/initrd-3.2.6-desktop-3.mga2.img
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5593019 feb. 21 13:24 foo.img
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On Tuesday 21 February 2012 13:53, Colin Guthrie wrote:
You can probably boot to the new kernel using that initrd now.
Indeed I can.
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$ uname -r
3.2.6-desktop-3.mga2
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And yet again the problem hides itself... :s
They are good at that, aren't they? ;-)=
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me of a question I have forgotten to ask:
What do we use in Mageia to replace those packages?
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of the US Government isn't protected by Copyrights.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/105
Debian have decided to exclude it due to it's unresolved status.
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/forensics-devel/2010-January/001527.html
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. the US Government.
Meaning, it is copyrighted by the US government. But there is no copyright
/protection/ on the software, because it is the US government which holds the
copyrights.
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we should have a policy on when to remind developers on version freezes.
Say, one or two weeks before the freeze, so they get a chance to submit final
changes.
Or do we have such a policy already?
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ahead in cross roads.
It was then that I learned the principle that unless I'm told otherwise, asume
one is on track and on time. Usually it is correct.
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On Tuesday 06 March 2012 13:38, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
All sys admin expect to have a tty on first console
Besides, most guides on the net suggest using tty1 if X fail for some reason.
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On Wednesday 07 March 2012 10:26, Colin Guthrie wrote:
I think we'll have to deprecate supporting startx
What should we use instead?
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and what not,
my vote is to keep serial console access.
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does not have a text installer is not a system he's
willing to use.
If we deprecate and remove the abillity to use a text installer, we are
effectlively blocking blind users from beeing able to install the system.
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to the changelog it was
imported into Mandriva september 9, 2011.
So the upgrade path from Mandriva seems to be fine, regarding xonotic at least.
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On Sunday 11 March 2012 13:43, Thomas Backlund wrote:
if we start going letting things slide we get the debate that
package got in, so why not this...
I agree with Thomas. it's to late. it really is that simple. Deadline for
adding new and upgraded packages was march 7.
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On Monday 12 March 2012 08:31, zezinho wrote:
As usually people who does agree says nothing
And the few of us who do say we agree, seems to drown in the traffic. :-)=
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On Saturday 07 April 2012 18:47, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
I'm using Firefox but totem-mozilla is one of those packages I unmark
everytime
in individual package selection without any regression for Firefox.
I do the same, and likewise have no problems.
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no.
It is not unmaintained upstream. Latest upstream version is 0.9.2, and was
released april 8, some 11 days ago.
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On Monday 23 April 2012 18:26, Sander Lepik wrote:
Why? Isn't the API public?
The encryption and protocol needed to use it is prorpietary, hence it is
non-free as it depends on Nonfree software to work.
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I am one of those who frequently encode audio and video. For that I heavily
depend on massive amounts of memory, and CPU power. :-)=
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-flashbased webvideo working. Please resubmit
ufoai-data
This is most surely a forgotten build. ufoai depends on it.
In my oppinion, these 5 listed packages should be resubmitted.
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don't forget any of the files required to build a package,
as all required files will be in te src.rpm's. :-)=
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to use it, and the
distro does not help them in any way to achieve this.
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that there where no such
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On Wednesday 30 May 2012 16:36, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
We're speaking about those who actually have (a decent number of) users
Then you should say so, and not pretend that the other ones don't exist.
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On Wednesday 30 May 2012 16:35, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
dropped the --sign from rpmbuild
Use rpmsign
Why is --sign no longer supported?
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against it, and no packages where downloaded. And I see missing
signatures too.
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than changing a symlink to /lib/systemd/system/runlevel3.target,
especially when explaning this to a not so advanced user over the phone, who
doesn't have a working X at the moment. (Yes, I actually do have such support
calls.)
The support departments are just going to love this. ;-)=
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On Sunday 03 June 2012 20:16, AL13N wrote:
it's not even a change, it's systemd vs sysvinit.
That may be so, but it is still a change.
if you don't like it, you can still switch back to sysvinit,
I don't have to like it to use it. :-)=
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the upstream provider, I am not uploading or maintaning
packages which are more than a few MB, as I don't have the available bandwith
do do it.
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On Wednesday 06 June 2012 17:33, Olav Vitters wrote:
Just give me the spec file so I can do a mgarepo sync -d.
I made a tarball with the spec, a patch and an destop file icon.
http://www.solbu.net/progs/triplea.tar.gz (3,9k)
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without necessarily thinking of the consequences.
And that is what updates are for, in my opinion. The average user shouldn't
have to think about the consequences of accepting updates.
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On Tuesday 12 June 2012 07:36, blind Pete wrote:
Allow cherry picking from backports
I already do that now. Whenever I need something from backports, I activate
backports, install the thing I need and deactivate backports.
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version over QT if it detects a braille.
If we switch to QT and drop the GTK version, blind users will not be able to
use the GUI drak tools.
I know it's a long way untill this switch is beeing made, if it does, but this
should be considered when making the decition.
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On Wednesday 13 June 2012 16:22, Angelo Naselli wrote:
what i proposed is to have the availability to choose a QT interface for our
tools
as well as for any other libraries
Ahh. That makes much more sense. :-)=
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On Tuesday 19 June 2012 19:46, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
4) type bt to get a backstrace once it segfaulted
Nice. I've always wondered how oe get a backtrace.
I'll save this in my hints file. :-)=
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