Re: [Mailman-Developers] Fixing DMARC problems with .invalid munge

2014-05-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 5/21/2014 12:14 PM, Ian Eiloart wrote: And, it’s not abusive if appropriate SPF checks are done first: obviously, you don’t do the callout if you get an SPF fail. A callout with an SPF pass isn’t abusive: if the domain sent me an email, then it should be able to handle a callout. You are wr

Re: [Mailman-Developers] callbacks, Fixing DMARC problems with .invalid munge

2014-05-21 Thread John R Levine
And, it’s not abusive if appropriate SPF checks are done first: obviously, you don’t do the callout if you get an SPF fail. A callout with an SPF pass isn’t abusive: if the domain sent me an email, then it should be able to handle a callout. Let me just say that a lot of people at large ISPs

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Fixing DMARC problems with .invalid munge

2014-05-21 Thread Ian Eiloart
On 17 May 2014, at 04:08, John Levine wrote: > Everyone I know who's tried to do spam filtering by SMTP callbacks to > verify sender addresses has stopped, Not me. > for the dual reasons that it > doesn't work, and it's abusive. It is helpful, we get almost no complaints. Complaints are usual