On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 11:35:00AM +0100, Florian Fuchs wrote:
> There are a number of alternatives to captchas to prevent spam. None of them
> is perfect, but one I kind of like is the honeypot approach:
There are others as well. A few scattered examples:
1. Use the Spamhaus DROP and EDROP list
At 04:35 AM 3/7/2016, Florian Fuchs wrote:
On Sat, Mar 05, 2016 at 16:27:31PM +0530, Aditya Divekar wrote:
As a side-note, especially to those who are using screen readers: What is
your experience regarding the use of JavaScript in current screen readers? Is
this still mostly a no-go for web site
On Mo, Mär 07, 2016 at 11:35:00 +0100, Florian Fuchs wrote:
>There are a number of alternatives to captchas to prevent spam. None of them
>is perfect, but one I kind of like is the honeypot approach:
>
>It's basically an empty and visually hidden input field that is ecpected to
>be emptily submitte
On Sat, Mar 05, 2016 at 16:27:31PM +0530, Aditya Divekar wrote:
Hi!
I was looking around the mailman code, and could not find the functionality
for captcha in the mailing lists subscription pages.
I think it could be a good feature to implement in the upcoming versions,
and would like to know if
I was thinking of this as a side project to work on, not related to gsoc.
And I would be interested in working on this in case it's started as a
project :)
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* Stephen J. Turnbull :
> Barry Warsaw writes:
>
> > I'll be honest, I really hate captchas.
>
> I do too, and will not work on adding them. But they're a frequent
> RFE (or were at one time), and with Google oomph behind reCAPTCHA, I
> wouldn't be surprised if they rise in popularity again. A
Barry Warsaw writes:
> I'll be honest, I really hate captchas.
I do too, and will not work on adding them. But they're a frequent
RFE (or were at one time), and with Google oomph behind reCAPTCHA, I
wouldn't be surprised if they rise in popularity again. And they
don't violate any RFCs.
If Ab
Barry Warsaw writes:
> Great idea. The core already had a 'ui' tag but I renamed that 'usability'.
> I also added an 'accessibility' tag,
Ah, you're right -- spelling usability as "ui" or "ux" would be an
"ax" barrier to everybody but us chickens, er, core devs.
+1 for usability and accessibi
On Mar 06, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>This is a continuing goal of mine, for sure, and I think of all
>Mailman developers. But AFAIK we're all equipped with average-ish
>levels of the usual senses, so feel free to remind us of the
>principle, and if you notice any specific iss
On Mar 05, 2016, at 10:33 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>Subscription confirmation has nothing to do with spam subscription
>attempts. It is to prevent me (a human) from subscribing other people's
>addresses to lists. Captchas and similar hoops to jump through do not
>stop my doing that and do not obviat
As the parent and caregiver for a disabled child (age 35) and a nationally
known advocate for the 1 in 10 worldwide with one of 7,000 rare diseases, I
have great respect for those with disabilities … and for those aging, like me,
who are increasingly visually and audibly challenged.
With that s
David Andrews writes:
> Some audio CAPTCHA's are ok, some are virtually impossible to
> decipher. Also, audio CAPTCHAs do not work at all for deaf-blind
> persons.
Thanks for going on record!
> So, while it depends, audio CAPTCHA is a mixed experience at best,
> and impossible at worst.
At 04:57 AM 3/5/2016, Aditya Divekar wrote:
Hi!
I was looking around the mailman code, and could not find the functionality
for captcha in the mailing lists subscription pages.
I think it could be a good feature to implement in the upcoming versions,
and would like to know if its a good idea?
I a
At 08:20 PM 3/5/2016, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Christian Schoepplein writes:
> On Sat, 5 Mar 2016 12:08:38 > About captchas. If they are
implemented, they would have to be
> > optional in my opinion as they would
> > require signing up for a token with the captcha provider.
>
> Yes, if c
On Sat, Mar 05, 2016 at 04:27:31PM +0530, Aditya Divekar wrote:
> I was looking around the mailman code, and could not find the functionality
> for captcha in the mailing lists subscription pages.
As someone who has been studying email abuse for 30+ years, I strongly
recommend against captchas for
Christian Schoepplein writes:
> On Sat, 5 Mar 2016 12:08:38 > About captchas. If they are implemented, they
> would have to be
> > optional in my opinion as they would
> > require signing up for a token with the captcha provider.
>
> Yes, if captchas really have to be implemented, please,
Aditya Divekar writes:
> But with the new recaptcha, I would like to know if the stand is
> the same.
ReCAPTCHA looks very good, though I haven't used it. However, the
professional spammers are quite capable of hiring humans to do their
work, and even conceal it as being charitable work (digit
On 03/05/2016 04:03 AM, Aditya Divekar wrote:
>
> I was mostly basing this idea on the lines that it is easy to put in a spam
> subscription request to the mailing lists now.
> Implementing captcha could nip most of these attempts in the bud itself,
> and save mailman the extra efforts of sending
Yes, I was of the opinion that it could be an optional feature.
Making it compulsory would involve critical problems as mentioned above by
Christian, and might sometimes be disagreeable to list users who think its
an unnecessary overhead of time.
I was mostly basing this idea on the lines that it
On Sat, 5 Mar 2016 12:08:38 > About captchas. If they are implemented, they
would have to be
> optional in my opinion as they would
> require signing up for a token with the captcha provider.
Yes, if captchas really have to be implemented, please, please make them
optional! For example many bl
On 03/05/2016 11:57 AM, Aditya Divekar wrote:
> Hi!
> I was looking around the mailman code, and could not find the functionality
> for captcha in the mailing lists subscription pages.
> I think it could be a good feature to implement in the upcoming versions,
> and would like to know if its a good
Hi!
I was looking around the mailman code, and could not find the functionality
for captcha in the mailing lists subscription pages.
I think it could be a good feature to implement in the upcoming versions,
and would like to know if its a good idea?
I also came across the thread -
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