Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 released

2005-01-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 14:07, Ron Jarrell wrote: > So, because I updated from cvs a long time ago, then got distracted > (becoming management makes it difficult to be useful sometimes, ya > know?) I'm running 2.2a0... How much of a pain will "downgrading" to > 2.1.6b2 be? I know update is gonna

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 released

2005-01-27 Thread Ron Jarrell
So, because I updated from cvs a long time ago, then got distracted (becoming management makes it difficult to be useful sometimes, ya know?) I'm running 2.2a0... How much of a pain will "downgrading" to 2.1.6b2 be? I know update is gonna pitch a fit, but will it do the right thing? _

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 released

2005-01-26 Thread Msquared
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 01:18:28PM -0800, J C Lawrence wrote: > >> - Most of the installation instructions have been moved to a latex > >> document. See admin/www/mailman-install/index.html for details. > > > This is *not* a positive move. > > I'll mildly disagree if the installation ball inclu

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 released

2005-01-26 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
PS - Tokio: I've got a pile of patches for the in-line documentation of the stuff in bin/ that I need to double-check and submit. Will there be any problem if I check them in now? I can wait if it makes your life easier. No problem! Thanks. -- Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 released

2005-01-26 Thread Alan Batie
J C Lawrence wrote: Do note that LaTeX and TeX is a plain text format and is quite human readable, even more so than say [nrt]roff. For some definition of "readable" ;-) though I would probably agree that it's moreso than *roff. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 released

2005-01-26 Thread Terri Oda
On Jan 26, 2005, at 11:10 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 06:39, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: I have to agree. Doesn't it make more sense to move to something like reStructuredText if you need to produce somewhat nice-looking web or printed documents without much effort? I think the do

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 released

2005-01-26 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Hi, Before some one 'fifth' this, I should say: The plain text version mailman-install is already in the tar ball -- admin/www/mailman-install.txt. What is missing is the pointer. Ian Eiloart wrote: --On January 26, 2005 08:36:55 -0500 Bob Puff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I third the motion. I h

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 released

2005-01-26 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:03:51 -0800 Alan Batie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I will take this back *slightly* in the case of mailman: since it's > designed to work with a webserver, you're obviously installing it > where the docs are actually viewable (at least if they're html, does > anyone actuall

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 released

2005-01-26 Thread J C Lawrence
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:32:06 -0800 Alan Batie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tokio Kikuchi wrote: >> - Most of the installation instructions have been moved to a latex >> document. See admin/www/mailman-install/index.html for details. > This is *not* a positive move. I'll mildly disagree if the

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 released

2005-01-26 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 06:39, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > I have to agree. Doesn't it make more sense to move to something like > reStructuredText if you need to produce somewhat nice-looking web or > printed documents without much effort? I think the doc source doesn't make much of a difference

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 released

2005-01-26 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 01:32, Alan Batie wrote: > Tokio Kikuchi wrote: > > > - Most of the installation instructions have been moved to a latex > > document. See admin/www/mailman-install/index.html for details. > > This is *not* a positive move. Installation instructions should be in

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 released

2005-01-26 Thread Ian Eiloart
--On January 26, 2005 08:36:55 -0500 Bob Puff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I third the motion. I hate it when the docs for something are in something other than plain text. I rarely am logged in with a gui - always a terminal mode, and even html can get goofy. Bob I fourth it. I don't even know if

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 released

2005-01-26 Thread Bob Puff
; To: Alan Batie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: mailman-developers@python.org Sent: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:39:01 +0900 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 released > >>>>> "Alan" == Alan Batie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Ala

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 released

2005-01-26 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
> "Alan" == Alan Batie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alan> Tokio Kikuchi wrote: >> - Most of the installation instructions have been moved to a >> latex document. See admin/www/mailman-install/index.html for >> details. Alan> This is *not* a positive move. Installation in

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 released

2005-01-25 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Alan Batie wrote: Tokio Kikuchi wrote: - Most of the installation instructions have been moved to a latex document. See admin/www/mailman-install/index.html for details. This is *not* a positive move. Installation instructions should be in a flat text document, unless you're installin

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 released

2005-01-25 Thread Alan Batie
Alan Batie wrote: I install most software from a shell, and want to be able to see what I'm doing without having to install the instructions on a web server somewhere I will take this back *slightly* in the case of mailman: since it's designed to work with a webserver, you're obviously installin

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 released

2005-01-25 Thread Ron Brogden
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 22:32, Alan Batie wrote: > This is *not* a positive move. I 100% agree. Since Mailman is designed to be installed from the shell (and certain commands run from the shell) and since a web / mail server likely is not going to have a GUI installed on it, the docs should

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 released

2005-01-25 Thread Alan Batie
Tokio Kikuchi wrote: - Most of the installation instructions have been moved to a latex document. See admin/www/mailman-install/index.html for details. This is *not* a positive move. Installation instructions should be in a flat text document, unless you're installing it from a web bro

[Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 released

2005-01-25 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
Hi, I put together a tarball for Mailman 2.1.6 beta 2 and placed on my Japanese Mailman site at: http://mm.tkikuchi.net/mailman-2.1.6b2.tgz This is the second beta release of 2.1.6 which are roughly scheduled to be released by the end of February. Please grab it from above site and upgrade your