Re: [Mailman-Users] Backing up Mailman list installations

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 02:09:17 -0500 Jon Carnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cool scripts. Hacks really. > I used to do something similar, and then I moved over to using > "ncftp" to drop the tarball off on my backup-server. A matter of > preference, but I like that better than mailing myself

Re: [Mailman-Users] Backing up Mailman list installations

e message its > going to send, the file it is going to send, and the address it is > going to send it to. mimemail depends on the nmh tools to build > the MIME message. > > mailman.backup takes no arguments. It creates a compressed > tarball of ~mailman/lists in the f

Re: [Mailman-Users] RELEASE Mailman 2.0.8

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Barry A. Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "C" == Camel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > C> False alarm - it was Konqueror - No problem w/ opera or > C> netscape > Mailman 2.0.x uses a slightly non-standard cookie format, which I > suspect -- but

[Mailman-Users] Backing up Mailman list installations

on the nmh tools to build the MIME message. mailman.backup takes no arguments. It creates a compressed tarball of ~mailman/lists in the file ~/backups/mailman.lists.YYMMDD.tar.gz eg: mailman.lists.20011128.tar.gz And then uses mimemail to send that file to root@localhost (edit/change i

[Mailman-Users] help

hi there, I work for the First United Methodist Church of Seattle. We use your service to send out the email version of our newsletter. I've recently been given stewardship of maintaining the list and have a basic question. Currently, the way the list is configured for us, we only have emai

[Mailman-Users] Submit command to the list

I am subsrcibed to many mailinglist, and if i would like to set my option via email i can do it by posting the command  to the email of the mailinglist.   For example i can send an email with this command:   SET  name DIGEST   or   REV milinglist BY COUNTRY   How can I do it with Mailman???

[Mailman-Users] NNTP and Message-Ids

First: Sorry for my bad english. I'm not a native english-speaker, so please ignore my mistakes. :o) I'm running some lists with the NNTP-gateway enabled both ways. I've noticed that when mailman posts to the newsgroup, it changes the Message-Id. Or, I guess it's mailman and not INN. This generat

[Mailman-Users] User database for htaccess

Okay, I mucked with the script I sent you for about a half an hour and this is what I came up with: === touch /etc/httpd/.htaccess.mpdladaux for i in `~mailman/bin/list_members mpdladaux` do PASS="`strings ~mailman/lists/mpdladaux/config.db | \ grep -i -A1 $i |head -5 |tail -1 | sed 's/s$

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscriber names

Thanks Greg! It's useful information. Now that we're certain this feature is not available in Mailman (and it's still needed), what we are doing is writing a CGI form that collects the information from the user when they subscribe, and that CGI will then email Mailman to start the subscription

[Mailman-Users] FW: Output from "cron" command

Title: FW: Output from "cron" command Anyone have any idea why I started getting these during the daily digest run and/or how to fix? Thanks for any help. -Original Message- From: mailman [mailto:mailman] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 12:00 PM To: mailman Subject: Output from "cr

[Mailman-Users] Problem with Postfix

This has probably been answered a thousand times before but I have a problem with postfix+mailman on Suse 7.2 Linux. Basically. I relpy to a confirmation email to join a list and get the following back.. - This is the Postfix I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned be

[Mailman-Users] News gateway and member_posting_only

Dear all, Hi. I'm new to this list. I don't know whether someone has mentioned before. I have a list that is trading posts with a news gateway. I want to restrict this list to member_posting_only (to avoid spams), while allowing posts from this trusted news gateway (they will deal wit

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to do umbrella lists

http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.005.htp Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: "Ernst Taumberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:29 PM Subject: [Mailman-Users] How to do umbrella lists > I apologize if this is

Re: [Mailman-Users] NNTP and Message-Ids

Mailman has to somehow mark the message that it places in the news group so that it know not to suck that message back in and resend it to the list. It seems to use the message id for this function. - Original Message - From: "Simen E. Sandberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Mailman-Users] Number of members on each page

> "Barry A. Warsaw" wrote: > > > > > "B" == Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > B> So how do you change it for a list already created? Export the > > B> config file, mess with it, then re-import? > > > > Make bin/withlist your best friend! :) > > Could you describe exactly h

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with Footers

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:52:35 -0500 Jon Carnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This ought to be in the FAQ (maybe it is...). http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.005.htp > Anyway, this happens when folks are using html style email and the > folks reading the email are usi

[Mailman-Users] False, and what not...

Also in MM 2.0.8: Looking in Defaults.py, there's this section: # Pipermail archives contain the raw email addresses of the posting authors. # Some view this as a goldmine for spam harvesters. Set this to false to # moderately obscure email addresses, but note that this breaks mailto:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Host name sent in email confirmation wrong

Wait, could it be sendmail is changing those headers? 250 mardy.hank.org Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender ok rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recipient ok data 354 Enter mail, end with "." o

[Mailman-Users] Default Hostname

I'm not sure if this is how it's supposed to work, or not, but that's why I'm asking. I just installed MM 2.0.8. Went into $prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py and added a DEFAULT_HOST_NAME and DEFAULT_URL. When I pointed my browser to /mailman/admin, the header and body text correctly displayed

Re: [Mailman-Users] question about headers

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:20:45 -0500 mirator wrote: >> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 (101270) >> List-Help: >> List-Post: List-Subscribe: >>

Re: [Mailman-Users] Host name sent in email confirmation wrong

At 05:59 PM 11/28/01 -0500, Jon Carnes wrote: >So you changed it in your ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py file but did you go >into the web-admin and change it on the General Options page for the lists >that already exist? > Host name this list prefers: mardy.hank.org Nope, that's what I meant when

Re: [Mailman-Users] Host name sent in email confirmation wrong

So you changed it in your ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py file but did you go into the web-admin and change it on the General Options page for the lists that already exist? Host name this list prefers: mardy.hank.org Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: "Bill Moseley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Mailman-Users] question about headers

You can also comment out what you don't want in : /Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py headers = { 'List-Id' : listid, 'List-Help' : '' % requestaddr, 'List-Unsubscribe': subfieldfmt % (listinfo, requestaddr, 'un'), 'List-Subscri

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with Footers

This ought to be in the FAQ (maybe it is...). Anyway, this happens when folks are using html style email and the folks reading the email are using something like Outlook. Take a look at the source text of the Message and you will see that the Footer is actually there. The email client is not di

Re: [Mailman-Users] question about headers

On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 04:20:45PM -0500, Donna wrote: > >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 (101270) > >List-Help: > >List-Post: > >List-Subscribe:

[Mailman-Users] question about headers

Hi - I am just now learning the details of managing a mailman powered list. I have previously used majordomo and so far mailman seems to have many of the same functions and in fact some much better ones. Here is my question. At the beginning of all messages to a list there are a lot of addres

[Mailman-Users] Problems with Footers

Has anyone experienced any problems with the Footers for the messages not being displayed? The symptoms are that the defined footer for all mailing lists will disappear, until all admin requests are processed. Is there a lock being held somewhere? -- Albert E. Whale - http://www.abs-comptech.co

[Mailman-Users] Archives

I have some lists I'am moving from Listproc to Mailman that I've been using Mhonarc to archive and would like to integrate them with the Mailman archives when I move the lists over. Any ideas on how to do this? TIA Con Wieland UC Irvine -- Mai

[Mailman-Users] Host name sent in email confirmation wrong

I have my lists all setup to use the full name of the host. DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'mardy.hank.org' This is the same host as simply hank.org. I just tried to subscribe to a list, and the confirm mail came like this: Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The list settings have not changes (they still

[Mailman-Users] Usenet gateway to a member_posting_only list?

If I have a mailing list set to member_posting_only and also have the list set up as a Usenet gateway, Usenet postings by non-members will be rejected. If true, is there any way I can have Usenet postings be automatically approved by mailman for the mailing list side of the gateway? The purpose o

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: MIME Digests

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:14:43 -0500 tneff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Don't blame the weaknesses of your selection of tools on the > >> material. > I speak as a list manager, not as an individual member. As a > member I am fully prepared to get & use any

Re: [Mailman-Users] best way to upgrade from 2.0.6

On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 02:01:30PM -0500, Joshua S. Freeman wrote: > i'm admittedly a very low-level sysadmin, trying to learn best > practices. Which are, trust me, having the source tree of the installation you're running (with python, you can patch the installed version directly, but wit

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: MIME Digests

> Don't blame the weaknesses of your selection of tools on the > material. > > -- > J C Lawrence I speak as a list manager, not as an individual member. As a member I am fully prepared to get & use any tool I need to deal with stuff, but as a list manager I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: MIME Digests

> "tneff" == <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: tneff> MIME "Digests" (ultimate misnomer) still suck, even if tneff> somebody misidentified them with the words Outlook Express. tneff> They exist because the architecture allowed it, not to tneff> solve a practical problem. Regardl

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: MIME Digests

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:43:13 -0500 tneff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem is that they don't really Digest or pack anything, or > save any space, or do anything except collate a bunch of stuff > into a multipart sandwich. Precisely. That's exactly what they're intended to do, and is

Re: [Mailman-Users] best way to upgrade from 2.0.6

i'm admittedly a very low-level sysadmin, trying to learn best practices. J. On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Marc MERLIN wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 01:46:00PM -0500, Joshua S. Freeman wrote: > > well, I guess I was wondering whether to do that or to try patching what > > i've got... what are the pr

Re: [Mailman-Users] best way to upgrade from 2.0.6

On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 01:46:00PM -0500, Joshua S. Freeman wrote: > well, I guess I was wondering whether to do that or to try patching what > i've got... what are the pros/cons of each method? Err, why? I've always patched/upgraded my source tree, and typed make install. Marc -- Microsoft i

Re: [Mailman-Users] best way to upgrade from 2.0.6

Download the two patch files x.0.6->x.0.7.txt and ..0.7->..0.8.txt apply the patches in order, then ./configure.check, then make install. it was flawless. On Wednesday 28 November 2001 01:24 pm, you wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 01:07:41PM -0500, Joshua S. Freeman wrote: > > Hi folks... > > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] best way to upgrade from 2.0.6

well, I guess I was wondering whether to do that or to try patching what i've got... what are the pros/cons of each method? J. On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Marc MERLIN wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 01:07:41PM -0500, Joshua S. Freeman wrote: > > Hi folks... > > > > What is the least painful way to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: MIME Digests

The problem is that they don't really Digest or pack anything, or save any space, or do anything except collate a bunch of stuff into a multipart sandwich. There's precious little of use to be done with them that you couldn't do just as easily by getting individual messages and putting them i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: MIME Digests

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:04:38 -0500 tneff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MIME "Digests" (ultimate misnomer) still suck... Actually I find them the most pleasant and useful form of digests and rather wish that 1153 digests were rapidly consigned to the grave of history. > They exist because the a

Re: [Mailman-Users] best way to upgrade from 2.0.6

>What is the least painful way to upgrade from 2.0.6 to 2.0.8? Well, I just took the perhaps adventurous choice of downloading the new full 2.0.8 install and: ./configure --with-mail-gid=xxx make make install and it seems to have worked fine (I had to redo my modification to HTMLFormatter.py to

[Mailman-Users] How to do umbrella lists

I apologize if this is somewhere in the docu (I looked but in vain) but ... What I want to do is to capture the members of a number of lists (staff of various departments) into a list that contains all the members of all the member lists. Can I do this with umbrella lists, and if so, how? Ernst

Re: [Mailman-Users] best way to upgrade from 2.0.6

On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 01:07:41PM -0500, Joshua S. Freeman wrote: > Hi folks... > > What is the least painful way to upgrade from 2.0.6 to 2.0.8? make install ? Marc -- Microsoft is to operating systems & security what McDonalds is to gourmet c

Re: [Mailman-Users] question..

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Greg Ward wrote: > On 28 November 2001, George Galang said: > > I am running qmail and mailman 2.0.7. I can get mailman to send out > > messages to the local users, but I can't get it to send out to users who > > are not hosted on the machine it is running. Any advice? >

[Mailman-Users] best way to upgrade from 2.0.6

Hi folks... What is the least painful way to upgrade from 2.0.6 to 2.0.8? TIA, J. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

Re: [Mailman-Users] NNTP and Message-Ids

On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 18:53, Jon Carnes wrote: > That's an interesting problem... You could write a small script on the > News server side that scans the articles and substitues in the poper > information in the header of those articles. Still in order to make this > work correctly, you would

Re: [Mailman-Users] RELEASE Mailman 2.0.8

Quoting Oliver Egginger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > "Error decoding authorization cookie" > As soon as Konqueror try to read the authorization cookie. I have the same problem in Konqueror. Deleting the cookie out of the cookie manager didn't help. Neither did logging off and logging back in. I now h

Re: [Mailman-Users] RELEASE Mailman 2.0.8

"Error decoding authorization cookie" As soon as Konqueror try to read the authorization cookie. Only tested for MM 2.07 (yet) and all relevant versions of Konqueror. Konqueror 2.2.2 (KDE 2.2.2) inclusive. In MM 2.06 the problem didn't exists. Opera, Netscape, Mozilla, MS-Explorer and Lynx are wo

Re: [Mailman-Users] NNTP and Message-Ids

That's an interesting problem... You could write a small script on the News server side that scans the articles and substitues in the poper information in the header of those articles. Still in order to make this work correctly, you would be making assumptions that I don't think Mailman shou

[Mailman-Users] NNTP and Message-Ids

First: Sorry for my bad english. I'm not a native english-speaker, so please ignore my mistakes. :o) I'm running some lists with the NNTP-gateway enabled both ways. I've noticed that when mailman posts to the newsgroup, it changes the Message-Id. Or, I guess it's mailman and not INN. This generat

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest format

Dale, As a Mailman admin, you can set which type of digest is default (Plain or Mime) on the Digest-member Options page. As a list user, you can override the default and have the format of your preference sent to you. Many people like the Mime digests though. Makes replying easier, for one

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest format

Hey, I'm sorry if I stepped on anyone's toes. Something changed and I thought it should be noted that someone noticed. My choices had not changed since I started receiving the digests. I was not blaming anyone just expressing my opinion. I don't use Outlook and never have this was a change mad

[Mailman-Users] (?) Rebuilding Archives from .txt files

I was recently called in to resolve a problem with a MailMan installation where faulty permission settings had basically ruined the archives. The archive directories are in place and seem to be populated, but the 'index.html' file in the archive directory is zero-length. I fixed the permissio

[Mailman-Users] Re: MIME Digests

MIME "Digests" (ultimate misnomer) still suck, even if somebody misidentified them with the words Outlook Express. They exist because the architecture allowed it, not to solve a practical problem. Regardless of terminology, we should make sure that Mailman users know how to avoid them. -

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest format

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:14:30 -0800 Dale Pace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, I want to formally express my dislike of the format of the > last digest I received. You have your choice between RFC 1153 digests and MIME digests (which apparently you chose). > Multiple separate Outlook Exp

[Mailman-Users] List backup?

I am looking to backup a list in such a way that I can load it back onto another server at a later time. In particular, this backup must preserve user settings including password, list settings and the archives. I may need to put mailman on another server and it may be Linux and it may be using

Re: [Mailman-Users] question..

On 28 November 2001, George Galang said: > I am running qmail and mailman 2.0.7. I can get mailman to send out > messages to the local users, but I can't get it to send out to users who > are not hosted on the machine it is running. Any advice? Yes: define "can't", ie. explain exactly what is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscriber names

I think that many folks would be interested in this kind of Add-on functionality. Certainly MM v2.1 will be able to collect and maintain user names, but what about other information that folks might want to collect? If you were to write a CGI/SQL solution for this (a general one that subscrib

Re: [Mailman-Users] Number of members on each page

"Barry A. Warsaw" wrote: > > > "B" == Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > B> So how do you change it for a list already created? Export the > B> config file, mess with it, then re-import? > > Make bin/withlist your best friend! :) Could you describe exactly how to do this, please

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest format

On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 07:14:30AM -0800, Dale Pace wrote: > Hello, > I want to formally express my dislike of the format of the last > digest I received. Multiple separate Outlook Express messages > as attachments is a very unhandy format for casually scanning the > messages for something that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscriber names

> "C" == Camel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: C> And... I would hope the upgrade is re-designed to be as easy as C> the CVS (patch) upgrade(s) from 2.0.6 >> 2.0.8 There will be no patch from 2.0.x -> 2.1. The patch would be much larger than the tarball because /a lot/ has changed. B

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest format

> "DP" == Dale Pace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DP> Hello, I want to formally express my dislike of the format of DP> the last digest I received. Multiple separate Outlook Express DP> messages as attachments is a very unhandy format for casually DP> scanning the messages for

[Mailman-Users] question..

I am running qmail and mailman 2.0.7. I can get mailman to send out messages to the local users, but I can't get it to send out to users who are not hosted on the machine it is running. Any advice? I can provide some configuration if you want, though I am new at adminstrating qmail and ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] RELEASE Mailman 2.0.8

> "C" == Camel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: C> False alarm - it was Konqueror - No problem w/ opera or C> netscape Mailman 2.0.x uses a slightly non-standard cookie format, which I suspect -- but don't know for sure -- is the problem with Konqueror. I've verified that Mailman 2.1 +

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscriber names

And... I would hope the upgrade is re-designed to be as easy as the CVS (patch) upgrade(s) from 2.0.6 >> 2.0.8 On Wednesday 28 November 2001 10:19 am, you wrote: > Dare I ask what the time-frame for Mailman 2.1 is? And can I add the > names to my existing list, or do people need to resubscribe?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscriber names

Dare I ask what the time-frame for Mailman 2.1 is? And can I add the names to my existing list, or do people need to resubscribe? (I hope it's add because I'm just now populating a list with potentially 250 subscribers). Jason > On 28 November 2001, marina said: > > Now that we're certain t

[Mailman-Users] Digest format

Hello, I want to formally express my dislike of the format of the last digest I received. Multiple separate Outlook Express messages as attachments is a very unhandy format for casually scanning the messages for something that might be useful for my site. Thanks, Dale -- Dale Pace UNIX Adminis

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscriber names

On 28 November 2001, marina said: > Now that we're certain this feature is not available in Mailman (and > it's still needed), what we are doing is writing a CGI form that > collects the information from the user when they subscribe, and that > CGI will then email Mailman to start the subscript

Re: [Mailman-Users] RELEASE Mailman 2.0.8

False alarm - it was Konqueror - No problem w/ opera or netscape On Wednesday 28 November 2001 08:47 am, you wrote: > I only see this error in the 2.07 release with KDEs "Konqueror". > Has it gone away in MM 2.08 ?? > > - oliver > > > What was the fix for the "Error decoding authorization cookie"

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Stripping Attachments

Quoting Ashley M. Kirchner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Jon Carnes wrote: > > > Also, Listar is Open Source... so feel free to grab any part you want > > and integrate it into your install. > > However, I know jack squat about python... I run a bunch of my lists through an anti-spam procmail fil

Re: [Mailman-Users] RELEASE Mailman 2.0.8

I only see this error in the 2.07 release with KDEs "Konqueror". Has it gone away in MM 2.08 ?? - oliver > What was the fix for the "Error decoding authorization cookie" error?? > (cvs patched 2.06 >> 2.08) > > On Tuesday 27 November 2001 11:31 pm, you wrote: > > Hot on the heels of Mailman 2.0

Re: [Mailman-Users] RELEASE Mailman 2.0.8

What was the fix for the "Error decoding authorization cookie" error?? (cvs patched 2.06 >> 2.08) On Tuesday 27 November 2001 11:31 pm, you wrote: > Hot on the heels of Mailman 2.0.7, I'm now releasing 2.0.8 which fixes > several cross-site scripting security holes, and a few other minor bug > f