Re: [Mailman-Users] Old question, oft repeated

2003-03-12 Thread Christopher T. Joffe
That actually tells me the worst answer, thanks. This system has been running for a LONG time and has been through many os upgrade cycles. I think it's a victim of genetic drift. Other things act a bit weird at times also. I continually try to rectify these things, but I think it may be beyond

Re: [Mailman-Users] Old question, oft repeated

2003-03-12 Thread Todd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christopher T Joffe wrote: > Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 48, GOT gid 99. (Reconfigure to take > 99?) > > when trying to access it from the browser. Are there any runtime > configuration changes to make, or must I get the sources and recompile

Re: [Mailman-Users] Old question, oft repeated

2003-03-12 Thread Christopher T. Joffe
I've been out of the *nix world for long enough for some of this stuff to be fuzzy. Sorry. The apache group is 48, but apache (httpd) and most of the /var/www tree seem to root/root. I hesitate to run around changing stuff, as this is a running server. Jon Carnes wrote: You might want to check a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Old question, oft repeated

2003-03-12 Thread Jon Carnes
You might want to check around for a different rpm (or install from source). Of course you could always reset Apache to run using a GroupID of 48 (instead of the 99 it is currently using). Good Luck. On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 22:30, Christopher T Joffe wrote: > Sorry for the obvious from a mailman-n

RE: [Mailman-Users] sitewide list

2003-03-12 Thread Jon Carnes
You can always send Barry a note and volunteer to do some documentation. Other than that, you can add an entry into the FAQ Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py It's self-service so feel free to add an entry or two! Thanks for volunteering to help - Jon Carnes On Wed, 2003-03-1

[Mailman-Users] Old question, oft repeated

2003-03-12 Thread Christopher T Joffe
Sorry for the obvious from a mailman-newbie, but I can't seem to find the correct answer elsewhere. I'm running Mandrake9.0 and have just installed Mailman from the included RPMs. I now get: Mailman CGI error!!! This entry is being stored in your syslog: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 48, GOT

Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbe Headaches

2003-03-12 Thread Jon Carnes
On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 17:41, Bob Sully wrote: > > Jon: I did install from source but paid special attention to the smrsh > directories. Everything is where it should be. Still didn't work. > > -- Bob -- Oh well... I guess it was a good thing (tm) that I moved over to Postfix last year. :-)

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman+Qmail+external subscribers

2003-03-12 Thread Jon Carnes
As an experiment, grab one of the messages that you got locally but not via yahoo, and send it to your yahoo account from the server. You could also clone the list (using ~mailman/bin/config_list) and simply add a few test users, then test using that. Good Luck! On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 12:08, Jod

[Mailman-Users] Re: sitewide list

2003-03-12 Thread Will Yardley
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 04:21:45PM -0500, Jon Carnes wrote: > On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 15:48, Mark McEahern wrote: > > 3. Is there any reason to display this site-wide list in the list of lists > > displayed by listinfo? > No. This should always be a private list. I was wondering about this - th

[Mailman-Users] Mailman+Qmail+external subscribers

2003-03-12 Thread Jodie
I have been searching for days for an answer to this, so please forgive me if you know of some document or web site that addresses this problem. Point me to that document and I will be glad to read for myself. I am currently running RH 7.3 with Qmail 1.03+patches-19 with Mailman 2.0.13-1. I h

Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbe Headaches

2003-03-12 Thread Bob Sully
Jon: I did install from source but paid special attention to the smrsh directories. Everything is where it should be. Still didn't work. -- Bob -- On 12 Mar 2003, Jon Carnes wrote: > Most of these (I think) were from folks upgrading their Sendmail due to > the recent vulnerability and subs

[Mailman-Users] configuring mailman with courier

2003-03-12 Thread Mark McEahern
I just spent a considerable amount of time getting Mailman to work with Courier as the MTA. I'm sure there's probably more than one way to do it, but here's an outline of what I did. I offer this here in the hopes that anyone trying to do this in the future won't have to pursue all the deadends I

RE: [Mailman-Users] sitewide list

2003-03-12 Thread Mark McEahern
[Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > This list should only be for you and other system/list admins that are > in charge of the whole Mailman install. It is for Mailman errors and > list warnings. [snip other helpful background information about the site-wide list] Jon, thanks for the reply.

[Mailman-Users] A funny thing happened... (bug?)

2003-03-12 Thread irwin
On the overview pages, listinfo and admin, the email address was appearing as [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] In both the Defaults.py and mm_cfg.py files, the DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST was correct as DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST='domain.com' By removing the DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST='domain.com' from

Re: [Mailman-Users] sitewide list

2003-03-12 Thread Jon Carnes
On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 15:48, Mark McEahern wrote: > The INSTALL file recommends creating a site-wide list called mailman, but > aside from saying this is where password reminders appear to come from, it > seems short on details as to the purpose of this list. I apologize if these > questions are a

[Mailman-Users] sitewide list

2003-03-12 Thread Mark McEahern
The INSTALL file recommends creating a site-wide list called mailman, but aside from saying this is where password reminders appear to come from, it seems short on details as to the purpose of this list. I apologize if these questions are answered elsewhere. I've at least cursorily scanned the ob

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem solved: it was the MTA

2003-03-12 Thread Elena Fraboschi
No, it was not a typo, just an ellipsis :-) I am very careful when it comes to changing things. I read that changes are not to go into Defaults, and I made the changes in mm_cfg.py. I just omitted the gory details :-) (that what I put in mm_cfg.py in the end becomes Defaults). But you are rig

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem solved: it was the MTA

2003-03-12 Thread Elena Fraboschi
Thank you, Todd, for acting so irate ;-) about my bypassing the warnings and setting up sendmail "in the raw" as opposed to going to it via SMTPDirect. I guess I have demonstrated to be truly a newbie but... there is hope for me. I decided to look into the sendmail.cf file, and it turns out that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem solved: it was the MTA

2003-03-12 Thread Kyle Rhorer
> But, from the point of view of mailman, once the correct > Delivery_Module was specified in Defaults.py, it works fast > as a whistle. That was a typo, right? There is ample warning in the documentation (and, IIRC, in the Defaults.py file itself) that changes go in mm_cfg.py, not in Defaults.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem solved: it was the MTA

2003-03-12 Thread Elena Fraboschi
So, I got this: #telnet localhost 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mafalda.math.indiana.edu ESMTP Sendmail bla bla bla versions Well, let me play with the fun parts :-) Best, elena -- Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Different Errors this time

2003-03-12 Thread Jon Carnes
Are you running your MTA in a chroot? Is there a group called mailnull in /etc/group? You can check on the error manually by su-ing as a user with the GroupID "mailnull" and then running: /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner If it says: "mailowner got no listname." then Mailman is working p

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem solved: it was the MTA

2003-03-12 Thread Todd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Elena Fraboschi wrote: > ugh, you must be a developer... :-) Not even close. (I don't even play one on TV. :) > My problem was that mailman received all fine, queued all fine, > and never delivered a thing. Obviously my sendmail was running. > When

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem solved: it was the MTA

2003-03-12 Thread Todd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Elena Fraboschi wrote: > Thank you, Todd, for acting so irate ;-) about my bypassing the warnings > and setting up sendmail "in the raw" as opposed to going to it via > SMTPDirect. I guess that's like 'tough love.' ;-) > I guess I have demonstrated

Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbe Headaches

2003-03-12 Thread Jon Carnes
Most of these (I think) were from folks upgrading their Sendmail due to the recent vulnerability and subsequent update release. I would hope that folks using package management (like rpm or apt-get) would have no problems if they used the updated packages for their distributions. If folks are ins

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem solved: it was the MTA

2003-03-12 Thread Elena Fraboschi
ugh, you must be a developer... :-) (just in case, here comes another one ;-)) My problem was that mailman received all fine, queued all fine, and never delivered a thing. Obviously my sendmail was running. When I changed DELIVERY_MODULE from SMTPDirect to Sendmail, it worked just fine. Now, I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Different Errors this time

2003-03-12 Thread Jon Carnes
Please see the FAQ In a nutshell it will tell you that Mailman's CGI's are setup with a security feature during the install. The feature only allows someone with the proper GroupID to run the CGI's. The scripts that are run via your MTA (mail-server) should be set to only run for someone with a

[Mailman-Users] Proper Editing of Welcome Message

2003-03-12 Thread David A. Mason
Greetings, Mailman users. I would like to tweak the welcome message of one of the lists on our list server in such a way that it would not invite the users to post to the list. I do not see an interface for this in the Mailman web interface, and I don't want indiscriminately to edit files in such

Re: [Mailman-Users] Proper Editing of Welcome Message

2003-03-12 Thread Todd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David A. Mason wrote: > I would like to tweak the welcome message of one of the lists on our list > server in such a way that it would not invite the users to post to the list. > I do not see an interface for this in the Mailman web interface, and I do

Re: [Mailman-Users] Different Errors this time

2003-03-12 Thread Todd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joseph Smith wrote: > - Transcript of session follows - > Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail > wrapper script to be executed as group "mailman", but > the system's mail server executed the mail script as > group "mailnull". Try

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem solved: it was the MTA

2003-03-12 Thread Todd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Elena Fraboschi wrote: > and there I learned that the makers of mailman, in an over-protective > move, commented out "Sendmail" as the Delivery_Module, and put > "SMTPDirect" instead. All that is fine, except that there should > be a warning about thi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbe Headaches

2003-03-12 Thread Bob Sully
Jon: You've seen the flurry of these over the past couple of weeks. I firmly believe that the problem lies with some mod to smrsh in the latest versions of Sendmail. I had previously been running 2.0.13 with Sendmail 8.12.3 without a problem...after upgrading to 8.12.7 I got the same messag

[Mailman-Users] Different Errors this time

2003-03-12 Thread Joseph Smith
Hello again, I corrected and followed the information from an earlier post to solve the smrsh issue and now I get the following msg back when sending to the list. I can read what it ways but for someone new this is a headache. I need to understand more then just receive and answer. - Tr

[Mailman-Users] let me clarify

2003-03-12 Thread Paul H Byerly
I wrote: > I've seen this mentioned on a number of Ensim lists, it just won't > work with anything over 755. When I get far enough it matters, I'll dig > into it more. Jon said: Interesting, because I remember using UID and GID's that were in the 1000+ range for the chroot (but that was six mont

[Mailman-Users] Problem solved: it was the MTA

2003-03-12 Thread Elena Fraboschi
Well, I reasoned that mailman was working just fine, save for the fact that it was not delivering any messages. I went to Mailman/Defaults.py and there I learned that the makers of mailman, in an over-protective move, commented out "Sendmail" as the Delivery_Module, and put "SMTPDirect" instead.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbe Headaches

2003-03-12 Thread Jon Carnes
Well, you could disable the Smrsh control from within Sendmail - or - you could look up on your system where Smrsh's link directory should be located. You may have to create the directory and then create your links to the Mailman executables. Good Luck - Jon Carnes BTW: there are some recent expo

Re: [Mailman-Users] 14 hours and still not there

2003-03-12 Thread Jon Carnes
- Original Message - From: "Paul H Byerly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Thee: > >I don't think this is exactly true. Your chroot environment has a > >limited amount of UserID's and GroupID's that are available to be used > >inside (and really outside as well) the Chroot. > > I've seen this

[Mailman-Users] no discernable addresses?

2003-03-12 Thread Elena Fraboschi
I believe I have pinpointed the root of the problem, which was, in a nutshell, that mailman received the messages from subscribed members, and queued them, but failed to deliver to the list because, it would appear from the bounces log, it does not recognize the addresses at some point. Here is th

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman + spamassassin

2003-03-12 Thread David Gibbs
"Jonas Meurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hello, > I asked already two times, but no answer, now the third try ;) > I have mailman set up from debian/testing (2.0.13), and spamassassin > also. Now I would like to configure mailman to filter every incoming > mail t

Re: [Mailman-Users] How does MM 2.1.1 catch bounces? -- too many"Uncaught.."

2003-03-12 Thread John DeCarlo
Martin, I would submit this as a bug and include the messages that you think should be caught, especially "user unknown". This URL tells you how to submit a bug report: http://mailman.sourceforge.net/bugs.html -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own ---

Re: [Mailman-Users] How does MM 2.1.1 catch bounces? -- too many"Uncaught.."

2003-03-12 Thread Martin Maechler
> "John" == John DeCarlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > on Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:55:53 -0500 writes: John> Martin, John> Have you read through these messages? yes, (of course)! John> Some of the ones I get include "out of office" John> messages or other auto-generated messages

Re: [Mailman-Users] How does MM 2.1.1 catch bounces? -- too many"Uncaught.."

2003-03-12 Thread John DeCarlo
Martin, Have you read through these messages? Some of the ones I get include "out of office" messages or other auto-generated messages that aren't really "bounce" messages. I.e., they don't indicate a problem delivering the mail. My theory is that when I have time I will try and filter out t

[Mailman-Users] customizing text and layout

2003-03-12 Thread Thijs Koetsier
Hello all, I'm trying to customize the Mailman interface pages, mainly translating the text. I've done so with the files located in /mailman/lists/listname (listinfo.html, options.html, etc.) However, in the listinfo page other text is placed by including . I cannot seem to find out where the text

[Mailman-Users] How does MM 2.1.1 catch bounces? -- too many "Uncaught.."

2003-03-12 Thread Martin Maechler
We have upgraded to 2.1.1 about 2 weeks ago. We have about 20 mailing lists, totalling about 70-100 messages a day -- although mainly from one 1-3 lists. I've been getting half a dozen "Uncaught bounce notification" messages a day, and had been ignoring them more or less -- hoping mailman would so