[Mailman-Users] old domain showing up

2005-03-25 Thread Troy Richard
I changed the domain on my mail list. When I log into the admin site all the links still show the old domain. Anybody know what i need to do to change this. Thanks Troy -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org

[Mailman-Users] Moderator ability to manager users

2005-03-25 Thread Peter McCarroll
I have a number of Mailman lists on my server. I want to retain control of the list configuration settings centrally (and not give out the administrator password to others), but allow each list owner to moderate and manage the subscriptions. Mailman does not seem to allow for the moderator to

[Mailman-Users] mailman difficulties: OS X, create list bug

2005-03-25 Thread Jason Miller
Dear Mailman users, I've been trying to get mailman 2.1.5 to work on my OS X (10.3.8, not server) machine for some time. I have root access. My postfix mail agent is working correctly (I can send email from my box and receive mail). I've used Larry Stone's archive posting to guide my

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman difficulties: OS X, create list bug

2005-03-25 Thread Jason Miller
Dan, Thanks! That seems to have taken care of the bug problem. Jason On Mar 25, 2005, at 9:25 AM, Dan Phillips wrote: On Mar 25, 2005, at 9:16 AM, Jason Miller wrote: -rw-r- 1 mailman mailman 16384 25 Mar 08:47 aliases.db alaises.db must be group writable. See

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderator ability to manager users

2005-03-25 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:25 AM -0800 2005-03-24, Peter McCarroll wrote: I have a number of Mailman lists on my server. I want to retain control of the list configuration settings centrally (and not give out the administrator password to others), but allow each list owner to moderate and manage the subscriptions.

Re: [Mailman-Users] temporary delivery error

2005-03-25 Thread John W. Baxter
On 3/25/2005 10:35, Ross Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been struggling with a delivery error on mailman that I could use some help with. I'm using postfix w/ amavis-new and cyrus for local users. The trouble I'm having is when a local users have exceeded thier quota, the messages

Re: [Mailman-Users] temporary delivery error

2005-03-25 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:00 AM -0800 2005-03-25, John W. Baxter wrote: Interestingly, the O'Reilly book Postfix, The Definitive Guide (my copy was printed in Dec 2003...first edition) does not mention quota in its index. That's because quotas like this don't actually

Re: [Mailman-Users] temporary delivery error

2005-03-25 Thread Ross Anderson
John W. Baxter wrote: On 3/25/2005 10:35, Ross Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been struggling with a delivery error on mailman that I could use some help with. I'm using postfix w/ amavis-new and cyrus for local users. The trouble I'm having is when a local users have exceeded thier

[Mailman-Users] MTAs

2005-03-25 Thread Heather Madrone
I've been using Mailman with exim on Mac OSX. I started with sendmail (because it comes with OSX and I'm somewhat familiar with it), but soon got tired of having to wrestle it into submission all the time and switched to exim. I've been very pleased with exim's performance and integration with

Re: [Mailman-Users] temporary delivery error

2005-03-25 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:46 PM -0600 2005-03-25, Ross Anderson wrote: Well the confusion I seem to be having here is cyrus-mailman related since it is the program handling local quota's. Cyrus bounces mail when single mail is recieved from local or outside mail accounts. What LDA do you have configured for use

Re: [Mailman-Users] MTAs

2005-03-25 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:55 AM -0800 2005-03-25, Heather Madrone wrote: The OSX setup, however, is only a stopgap while I get my permanent server set up. I've been looking for an open source operating system that will run well on our Ultra 5 (sparc). We were going with Debian, which then announced that it's

Re: [Mailman-Users] MTAs

2005-03-25 Thread John W. Baxter
On 3/25/2005 13:08, Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you've got Exim 3.x and you want to use Mailman 2.1.x, you're screwed. Debian woody notwithstanding, no one should be installing and running Exim 3 these days. There is essentially no one readily available (eg, on the exim-users

Re: [Mailman-Users] MTAs

2005-03-25 Thread Heather Madrone
Thanks for your detailed answer, Brad. I appreciate your opinion on this subject. If Postfix will do a better job than exim, I don't mind switching at all. At 10:08 PM +0100 3/25/05, Brad Knowles wrote: In terms of providing good support for UltraSPARC, Solaris is going to be best, and I

Re: [Mailman-Users] MTAs

2005-03-25 Thread John W. Baxter
On 3/25/2005 14:25, Heather Madrone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I said, I've never tried Postfix, so my only point of comparison is sendmail. I am fairly confident that any MTA would look simple and friendly next to sendmail. You probably shouldn't say any in that context. Exchange lurks

Re: [Mailman-Users] MTAs

2005-03-25 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:48 PM -0800 2005-03-25, John W. Baxter wrote: Debian woody notwithstanding, no one should be installing and running Exim 3 these days. There is essentially no one readily available (eg, on the exim-users mailing list) who remembers much about it. Think someone who already has Exim 3 on

Re: [Mailman-Users] MTAs

2005-03-25 Thread John W. Baxter
On 3/25/2005 14:14, Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debian woody notwithstanding, no one should be installing and running Exim 3 these days. There is essentially no one readily available (eg, on the exim-users mailing list) who remembers much about it. Think someone who already

Re: [Mailman-Users] MTAs

2005-03-25 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:25 PM -0800 2005-03-25, Heather Madrone wrote: FreeBSD works great if you don't need a keyboard, a mouse, or a monitor. They are oriented towards the serial console at the moment, but I'm sure that the rest will come along. I've got four UltraSPARC 10 clones that I plan on using under

Re: [Mailman-Users] MTAs

2005-03-25 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:02 PM -0800 2005-03-25, John W. Baxter wrote: And I have no way to help them. I could probably manage to configure the old Exim to work with the new Mailman, but I have no interest in doing so. Therein lies a big part of the problem. If you're not willing to help, and the rest of the

FW: [Mailman-Users] temporary delivery error

2005-03-25 Thread Ross Anderson
-Original Message- From: Brad Knowles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 2:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: John W. Baxter; Mailman Users; Ross Anderson Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] temporary delivery error At 1:46 PM -0600 2005-03-25, Ross Anderson wrote: Well

Re: [Mailman-Users] MTAs

2005-03-25 Thread Jim Tittsler
On Mar 26, 2005, at 10:12, Brad Knowles wrote: At 4:02 PM -0800 2005-03-25, John W. Baxter wrote: And I have no way to help them. I could probably manage to configure the old Exim to work with the new Mailman, but I have no interest in doing so. Therein lies a big part of the problem. If

Re: [Mailman-Users] MTAs

2005-03-25 Thread John W. Baxter
On 3/25/2005 16:37, Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this situation, *BSD with softupdates will be your best bet on the filesystem side. The cool thing about softupdates is that it re-orders the disk I/O operations in a safe manner, and if the file is created and goes away quickly

Re: [Mailman-Users] MTAs

2005-03-25 Thread John W. Baxter
On 3/25/2005 17:12, Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This whole Exim 3/Exim 4 thing is not a problem with postfix. Don't get me wrong, postfix isn't perfect. But what flaws it has tend to be less visible than this, and the issue of upgrading from one version to another usually has more

Re: [Mailman-Users] MTAs

2005-03-25 Thread Brad Knowles
At 6:21 PM -0800 2005-03-25, John W. Baxter wrote: Unless softupdates sees power outages and hustles the data onto disk (which is probably feasible) it would not be considered MTA-suitable (and Exim does what it can to prevent it, using whatever force to disk calls are available to it). The

Re: [Mailman-Users] MTAs

2005-03-25 Thread Brad Knowles
At 6:31 PM -0800 2005-03-25, John W. Baxter wrote: But at any rate, Exim 3 to ?? Is a very good opportunity to consider Postfix rather than Exim 4 as the ??. Mailman 2.x to 3.0 will likely present a similar opportunity to look around at what else there is. I suspect that Mailman 2.x to 3.x

Re: [Mailman-Users] MTAs

2005-03-25 Thread Terry Allen
I suspect that Mailman 2.x to 3.x will not be that rough. Yes, the Hi again, Just out of interest, on Postfix, there is a simple option to upgrade a running system like so (as most here will know): make stop postfix make upgrade start postfix I have never had to upgrade Mailman, as I started

[Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-25 Thread Lynn Siprelle
I am trying to move my heretofore working mailman installation from one server (FreeBSD/Sendmail) to another (RedHat/Exim). I can access my lists at my main url, but I get Page not found on the domains I host. The error log says premature end of script headers. None of the lists have

Re: [Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-25 Thread Terry Allen
I am trying to move my heretofore working mailman installation from one server (FreeBSD/Sendmail) to another (RedHat/Exim). I can access my lists at my main url, but I get Page not found on the domains I host. The error log says premature end of script headers. None of the lists have

Re: [Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-25 Thread Lynn Siprelle
On Mar 25, 2005, at 8:04 PM, Terry Allen wrote: I am trying to move my heretofore working mailman installation from one server (FreeBSD/Sendmail) to another (RedHat/Exim). I can access my lists at my main url, but I get Page not found on the domains I host. The error log says premature end of

Re: [Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lynn Siprelle wrote: But why would it work on the main url but not the virtual ones? Here's what I mean. This works: http://lsiprelle.simpli.biz/mailman/listinfo This doesn't: http://www.democracyfororegon.com/mailman/listinfo Same server, same mailman installation. The first one runs fine,

Re: [Mailman-Users] MTAs

2005-03-25 Thread John W. Baxter
On 3/25/2005 19:05, Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 6:31 PM -0800 2005-03-25, John W. Baxter wrote: But at any rate, Exim 3 to ?? Is a very good opportunity to consider Postfix rather than Exim 4 as the ??. Mailman 2.x to 3.0 will likely present a similar opportunity to look

Re: [Mailman-Users] MTAs

2005-03-25 Thread John W. Baxter
On 3/25/2005 19:32, Terry Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect that Mailman 2.x to 3.x will not be that rough. Yes, the Hi again, Just out of interest, on Postfix, there is a simple option to upgrade a running system like so (as most here will know): make stop postfix make upgrade

Re: [Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-25 Thread Lynn Siprelle
This works: http://lsiprelle.simpli.biz/mailman/listinfo This doesn't: http://www.democracyfororegon.com/mailman/listinfo Same server, same mailman installation. The first one runs fine, the second one throws premature end of script headers. What is your web server? What's in the VirtualHost (or

Re: [Mailman-Users] help! mailman not working with virtual servers

2005-03-25 Thread Lynn Siprelle
I should also have added that I'm using the current beta. What is your web server? What's in the VirtualHost (or whatever) section of the web server config for the www.democracyfororegon.com domain? Apache 1.3.33 VirtualHost 208.185.251.142:80 ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/